Location: I live in Northern Ontario Canada on the shore of Lake Nippissing
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Epedidymitis Allicin???
Hi I am brand new here. I have been researching Epididymitis because my son who is 14 has been diagnosed with this. 4 doctors have confirmed this. I have read the 5 page forum that started on this topic but switched to fungus and stressed MMS1 MMS2 for fungus. I have also read the research artical on MM1. However, my son does not have fungus to my knowledge. He was put on omoxicilin for 10 days with no results, in fact seemed to get worse. He was switched to opo flox (ofloxicin) for 10 days. Again no improvements. I did some research on the net on this product and found that it is black boxed because studies have found that it is linked to degenerate tendons that can burst and cause crippling. He is taking 6 ml codeine for pain every 6 hrs and 3 ibriprophen 200mg every 4 hrs. None of this seems to be helping him. After treading the testimonies here and around the net of people that have been antibiotized for months without relief. I am very disturbed.
My son has had this problem since the first week in Feb 2010. He has tender testies, and upper inner legs and across the lower belly and scrotum. He has had ultra sounds that revealed inflammation around left testie and left lymph node. He also has tenderness in lymph nodes under arms and rear of jaw.
He had a cat-scan today and we will find out results tomorrow.
From what I have read I think allicin may be the best possible cure. I bought some Allimax today and he has taken 3 capsules since 4pm. I want to give him max dosage to make sure it works first time. Any suggestions?
Allimax may be a good choice but you must give it sufficient time, a month or more.
You say that your son does not have a fungal infection but if he has ever had antibiotics I say that he very well could have a fungal infection. 99% of the time doctors do not know how to diagnose it. and even if he did not have a fungal infection when this all started his risk is now very high from the antibiotics that he has taken for this conditon which could make it worse, as well as create a resistant bacteria in his body.
If I were you I would run, not walk to a world class natuopath. a four year graduate from Bastyr... even if I had to travel. A Homeopath saved my kids from a life time of drugs. It was the best decision I ever made for them, for me and for our family. I would not leave it up to those medical quacks to manage my son. Their tests mean nothing. They have no curative medicines. They only repress disease. The few times I surcomb to them I was very sorry.
seems Cathy likes Allimed better than allimax. I have not formed an opinion. If bacteria is the cause of your sons problems it should work. If it is not then I would try MM1 and MMS2 as they seem to have effects on other micro-organisms other than bacteria. If these home remedies do not work seek out a naturopath. I am sorry your son is suffering like this.
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Last edited by Arrowwind09; 03-06-2010 at 06:44 AM.
Location: I live in Northern Ontario Canada on the shore of Lake Nippissing
Posts: 6
Thanks for your advise. I really appreciate it. We will try to stay in touch so when this is over we can tell the whole story to help others. I think we have a naturopath in town. I will be checking into that. I did a search on allimax and allimed and found they are owned by the same company. They give credit to the find to the same person that sells allicin c
I sent an email to find out more.
Location: I live in Northern Ontario Canada on the shore of Lake Nippissing
Posts: 6
update
No positive results yet. Son is still moaning in pain.
He took 8 Allimax 180 mg for 3 days and today we upped it to 16 per day. We started giving him 4 probiotics per day today to try and boost his immune and counter all of the negative effects the antibiotics had. He is on 3 advil every 4 hrs a day and 2 tylinal 1s 3 times a day. We are giving him 6 ml codeine every night so we can all get some sleep. He sometimes needs a second does around 2 am.
We don't have the money a naturopath wants at this point. Am in touch with Allimax in Canada and waiting for recommendations.
Will post any results.
Bill
Here are some exercises I came across that may help him.
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Testicular Pain
by Andrew Pacholyk, MS, L.Ac.
Testicular pain is a fairly common condition treated by urologists. Frequent causes include infection of the testicle (orchitis) or epididymis (epididymitis), post surgical pain, trauma, tumors, hernia, torsion (twisting of the testicle), varicocele, hydrocele or spermatocele.
In sexually active men, the most common cause of an infection of the epididymis is a sexually transmitted disease such as gonorrhea or chlamydia. Older and younger men may also get epididymitis, often because of an abnormality in the genitourinary system such as enlargement of the prostate.
Most of these conditions are easily diagnosed and treated. Occasionally the pain, even when treated appropriately becomes chronic. Many patients with chronic testicular pain, after ruling out the above, seem to find no cause to their pain. This is the pain I will be addressing.
Testicular Exam Self exams of the testicles are also an effective way of getting to know this area of your body and detecting testicular cancer at an early and very curable stage. While it can strike at any age, testicular cancer is the most common form of cancer for men aged 15 to 34. Checking yourself out every month is important as any significant change in the size, shape, or weight of your testicles could be a sign that you should see a physician. If you find a lump on your testicle, see a doctor, preferably a urologist, right away. The abnormality may not be cancer, it may just be an infection. Waiting and hoping will not fix anything.
Please note that free floating lumps in the scrotum that are not attached in any way to a testicle are not testicular cancer. All men should check their testicles for abnormalities about once a month, and older men should continue to occasionally do so. The shower or bathtub is a good place for this because warm water relaxes both the scrotum and the man. Men become very anxious when they feel pain in their testicles. Self examination should become a ritual as brushing your teeth.
To test, roll each testicle between the thumb and first two fingers of each hand and look for a lump, or nodule, that feels firm but is painless when pressed. A visual exam in front of a mirror is another way to look for abnormalities, and allows you to more easily locate all of the various components that should be checked.
Some men mistakenly discount the possibility that a problem exists because their testicles don't hurt. Tenderness, too, can indicate a problem, and so can swelling of a testicle. Neither of these symptoms should cause initial alarm, however, because there are many possibilities.
Exercises for Testicular Pain
Musculoskeletal problems are one of the biggest conditions overlooked by many physicians. Once the above situations have been ruled out and you still have pain, it is time to try these exercises. They should be done at least 3 times a day for two weeks:
Exercise 1.
Lying on your side knees bent and lined up on top of each other about level with your hips. Arms are straight out in front of you finger tips touching. You may want to place a small pillow under your head so that the neck is aligned with your spine.
Move the top hand and top leg slightly forward as you misalign the knees and hands about an inch, then pull them back to starting position. Now, do the same move with the top arm and leg but pull them back slightly about an inch, then realign the knees and fingertips. Keep these stretches constantly moving, never static.
The stretch is very subtle but very effective in stretching the inner thigh muscles. Repeat 12-15 times. Repeat on the other side. Remember to always keep the hands and knees touching.
Exercise 2.
Repeat the above exercise in position and manner but as a variation, this time push the knee forward but draw the fingers back along the arm so that you are getting an oppositional twist between the upper and lower torso.
The stretch is very subtle but very effective in stretching the inner thigh muscles. Repeat 12-15 times. Repeat on the other side. Remember to always keep the hands and knees touching.
Exercise 3.
Lying on the floor, you may want to lie close to the wall with your buttocks right up next to the wall. Straighten your legs up along the wall with ankles together. Now slowly open your legs as wide as they can to get a very effective stretch then bring them right back together.
Keep the motion of the legs moving. Keep these stretches constantly moving, never static. Repeat 12-15 times. Do not use the wall to rest your legs. Keep the legs slightly away from touching the wall.
Exercise 4.
Using a bed or chair for support and a blanket for your knee, kneel down on both knees. with your left foot (the bed or chair is on your right for support), step the left foot out into a lunge so that you are getting a good stretch from the left foot to the opposite right knee that is on the floor.
Now push your hips toward the left leg, place both hands on the left knee as you push the hips forward. You should get an incredible stretch in the right side of the groin. As you push your hips forward as far as you can get a great stretch, come back to starting position by lining your hips back up.
Keep the left foot where it is and then lunge back again. Keep the motion of the legs moving. Keep these stretches constantly moving, never static. Repeat 12-15 times.Repeat on the other side.
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I was just looking around about epididymitis and came across this site. the first site they list for a product comes from Denmark of all places! some of the herbs are common to Ayurvedic medicine. https://epididymitisproducts.com/product2.html
which leads to a few other sites that they talked about that I went to:
this one listed as the most beneficial treatment: https://www.epdiical.com/formula.html
the herbs in this one have pain releiving properties and have actions on the male reproductive organs. Some of the herbs were not in my herbal encyclopedia.
None of the herbs had strong antibacterial action which makes me think that the cause might very well be in a different direction than bacterial. Since antibiotic things are not making a dent perhaps it will soon be time to think outside of that box.
Look at what this site has to say about cause:
"Epdiical is a natural Epididymitis treatment that works by restoring the internal balance that is disrupted by endocrine changes, mental tension, stress and diet. Epididymitis is viewed as an external manifestation of an internal disorder. Epdiical is a unique natural Epididymitis remedy in that it addresses the causes of Epididymitis and its related problems. This all natural herbal Epididymitis treatment doesn't simply treat the external symptoms of the disease, but focuses on removing the underlying causes of the problem."
These look like very interesting herbal products to me and since there is a money back guarantee why not.
When my son got mono I searched on herbal products..and I came to one called monobrex, on a website similar to these. I was very impressed with the forumula after looking into the herbs it had. I can't say what cured him and had him snow boarding on day 7 post mono but he did take it, I threw a lot of stuff at him. Since then I have copied the forumula and found it very good for viral things.
I don't think I could stand it if my son went 7 days on a treatment and there was no improvement at all.
We have had several guys come to this forum seeking answers for this condition. I have not seen one return with a resolved condition. Seems regular docs don't know what to do if it does not cure with an antibiotic... and really, we have to classify allimax as an antibiotic, even if herbal. If an antibiotic does not cure time to look in other directions I would think. Herbals as I have posted and Homeopathy, my favorite, but costly for consultation, as is a naturopath.
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Last edited by Arrowwind09; 03-10-2010 at 07:37 AM.
I have just sent some fresh energy for your son and he should be fine now. And for goodness sake stop pouring all those chemical pharmaceuticals into him. He will end up on the Liver and Kidney transplant list.
Location: I live in Northern Ontario Canada on the shore of Lake Nippissing
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My son has not shown much positive results to allimax. He has however been able to sleep for longer periods of time though he moans till 5 in the morning. I think it is exhaustion that is allowing his sleep, but not sure. I have cut out treatment of Allimax because I am almost broke. He was taking it for about 8 days at 20 caps a day. It is very expensive for me. Yesterday, Mar 18th, I switched to mms2. I was able to find the ingredients with no problem at pool supply for under 8.00 Canadian and the caps at health food store for under 4.00. He only took 2 yesterday. He didn't sleep till 6 am. But it is now 1:20 pm and he is sleeping sound.
I contacted mms by email and they recommended the mms1. I ordered it today from a Canadian supplier in Ontario.
I have some minor discomforts that I thought mms2 might help so to encourage my son I have began treatment as well.
It is very hard to watch my son in this pain. If he is responding to the painkillers at all I would hate to see him without them. I have read a lot about the mms products and they make a lot of sense so I am hopeful.
I understand that the advil and tidol are dangerous to kidneys but what am I to do, watch him suffer?
According to John Humble hydrochlorous acid is the bodies own weapon against its enemies. It is used up as it kills harmful bacteria only so with every capsule it should get closer and closer to the root if I understand it correctly. The only questions I have that only tie will answer is 1) will is be able to travel to the root and 2) is the root a living micro-organism.
I will be using the mms1 on him when I get it. I have noticed that every morning when he awakes he begins to moan immediately with the pain. Today he has come in and out of sleep but I have not heard him moaning yet. I will keep you posted periodically.
I really want to thank you for this site. Even if we are not successful it is nice to find people who care and are willing to give free time to help strangers. Most sites I have found won't give any information till they have accessed your bank account. I guess that is topical in todays world. I am sure glad that this is temporal.
If it is a microbe causing this problem I would think that MMS 1 and 2 will take care of it. But in my readings on the topic I am concerned that the cause may not be a microbe. Time will tell.
Go back to my post dated 3/10 and read there if you have not already. If mms does not work it would be my next step to try.
I am sorry you are all suffering.... when a child suffers the whole family suffers.
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