well, I've been all over the NCI site... trying to find statistics on the different types of cancer survival statistics where treatment/no-treatment is a parameter. I can find all kinds of stats.. state, gender, etc., but nothing dividing treatment vs no treatment.

so.. I started searching elsewhere and found this study done by Australian Oncologists:

here is the Ralph Moss summary of the report (scroll down to AUSSIE ONCOLOGISTS CRITICIZE CHEMOTHERAPY - PART ONE):
https://www.cancerdecisions.com/030506_page.html

and here is the full summary:

The Contribution of Cytotoxic Chemotherapy
to 5-year Survival in Adult Malignancies
https://www.drrathresearch.org/health..._Cytotoxic.pdf

I will post any more stats in this thread as I find them.

Why we are losing the war on Cancer

(long article, but worth reading)

My sister in law has ductal breast cancer. She used herceptin and then they declared she was likley out of the woods. Now, 3 to 4 years later she has mets to the bones. What was their answer? More herceptin....

Oh, how I long for the days of Logic.

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If I found out I had breast cancer, I think I would look into HIFU. Which would mean a trip out of the US, because I think the trials are only for prostate cancer.

I don't understand why, when HIFU has been used for years in Europe and Canada, why.. the US can't use the data from those countries. Why do they need clinical trials for HIFU.

or.. that shock treatment in Australia.

So tell us about HIFU!

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Iggy had posted about it on HSI, then Donna's husband found out he had prostate cancer... actually, it is easier just to link to the thread than to recount the whole story:

High PSA - Forums

anyway, her husband seems to be doing fine with it. He had the HIFU, and was walking on the beach the next day (with a catheter. and was back to himself in 2 weeks.

It is a technology that has been used in Europe and Canada for years.. It is really upsetting that men in the US don't have this option.

However, even though HIFU is advertised mainly for prostate cancer, it can be used for other localized cancers.. like breast cancer. Unfortunately, it can't be used for my husband's type of cancer... but his father had prostate cancer with the operation, and ended up losing sexual function (a side effect with the surgery). So.. I told my husband if we found out he had prostate cancer, we would be taking a nice vacation out of the US.

here is some more information on it:
Use of high intensity focused ultrasound for treating malignant tumors

here is a video on what HIFU is :

Prostate Cancer Treatment Videos