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Old 12-08-2005, 12:40 AM
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Description And Definition Of The Soul - 'To look someone in the eye'

'To look someone in the eye' is the common expression for looking at the soul of someone.

More precisely, when looking in the direction in between the eyes of someone, you are likely to feel most of the person, and the person is likely to feel most, that you are looking at and thus truly appreciating him or her.

Contrary to various philosophic, religious or scientific belief systems, the soul does consist actually of a ball of pulsating, radiating Energy particles,

which may under certain circumstances be visible to those who still can see - but the main point is, that it is there, and a person (a soul) generally locates himself or herself so in relation to his or her body, that looking at him or her, is done best by looking towards the area between his or her eyes.

The soul is not to be confused with the Energy of a personality - matching and showing a male or female human body shape of a certain age and of certain characteristics - that someone creates at one life time so that you may feel or sense, how a person wants you to perceive that he or she is, now.

And when the body dies, the person is still continuing to create that Energy of that last personality of his or hers. The sight of that is well-known, and is the subject of much documentary literature and fine novels.

When I say 'looking someone in the eye,' I mean looking at the soul of someone, and not only at the personality that he or she creates now and wants you to sense as "being him or her."

When you look at someone's soul, the person is likely to feel most, that you are looking at and thus truly appreciating him or her - and he or she feels that, because a person IS the soul.

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As a new soldier in the U.S. Army in July of 1941 I had my first remembered 'personal eye contact' and, as I recall, it actually hurt.

After my enlisment I was assigned to a barracks where I arrived late at night. The following day was a day for troop inspectiion of which I was inexperienced. But I did the things that were being done by the men on my right and left. Then I waited.
The men were lined up in front of their bunks and after a while there was a commotion started at the barracks entrance and someone shouted: Attention! and an officer entered the room. The officer shouted: "At ease." and the men relaxed a bit. Then the officer started moving down the line of men and each soldier came to attention as he arrived in front of them. The officer looked them over, then moved on to the next and so on.

Eventually the officer stepped in front of me. I stiffened, which was what attention appeared to be to me, and my eyes LOCKED with the officer's eyes. It hurt and the officer visibly winced.

Seeing the situation some soldier shouted out: "Sir, he's new"
This defused the situation for the moment, but after the officer departed one of the soldiers called me aside and told me:

"You don't look at the man, you looke at the wall behind him."

I had looked at the man's soul and neither one of us liked it.

I have never forgotten that experience.
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My uncle was a Korean vet. a frogman, now called the Navy Seals. He told me this story. He said it was one of the most significant events of his life.

It was late at night and he was returning from a mission walking in emeny territory. He was the only survivor of that mission. It was just him and his gun.

The path he took lead him into a tunnel through which the path passed. There he heard a noise and before he knew it he was almost face to face with an enemy combatant. They looked in each others eyes. In that moment my uncle said he knew that these eyes were just like his. Just a guy and behind him a family, a history, a young man just barely out of childhood. He said he knew him fully in a split second and then he blew him away.

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I had looked at the man's soul and neither one of us liked it.

I have never forgotten that experience.
Yikes....That's eerie Donee!!!
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Yep, they had to throw him into the river with his hands and feet bound to kill him. Cyanide didn't work but water did!

In shamanistic studdies if one wants to see their soul or to see their reincarnations they should gase into their own eyes in a mirror after prayer, fasting and requesting the great spirit for vision.
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From Arrowind's post: "In that moment my uncle said he knew that these eyes were just like his."

In terms of the soul, we are all One. There can be no individual soul(s). Buddhist thought adheres to "anatman"--no soul.

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Mike said:

In terms of the soul, we are all One. There can be no individual soul(s). Buddhist thought adheres to "anatman"--no soul.



Yes, Mike, I think that is what my uncle was saying, considering the eyes he was looking into were slanted. He knew they were one and he knew that war was a reflection of the soul at war with itself.
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In terms of the soul, we are all One. There can be no individual soul(s). Buddhist thought adheres to "anatman"--no soul.

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Shapshfter,

I loved the Star Trek series "Next Generation." The Borg episodes were wonderful. The writers picked up a number of concepts which future science may eventually validate.

My favorite is the concept of the "Holodeck" in which the computer program creates a form of "reality." Some scientists today believe that this is how the universe really works--that the universe is essentially a hologram.

In a holographic plate, every tiny bit of the plate contains the entire hologram (kind of like William Blake's "To see a world in a grain of sand"). Just as the laser creates the image in a hologram, our consciousness acts like the laser to create from the "cosmic soup" the appearance of substance--or what we call reality. Basically there is only consciousness acting in concert with the cosmic soup (energy)--with consciousness being the creative force acting on the holographic plate (soup).

We are what we create/imagine/intend (as in the "Holodeck"). None of it is "real" but at the same time it is real--the great paradox. I think this fits in well with quantum physics.

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My favorite is the concept of the "Holodeck" in which the computer program creates a form of "reality." Some scientists today believe that this is how the universe really works--that the universe is essentially a hologram.

We are what we create/imagine/intend (as in the "Holodeck"). None of it is "real" but at the same time it is real--the great paradox. I think this fits in well with quantum physics
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A few years back there was an author, June Roberts, who wrote the �Manufacture of Personal Reality�. She expressed similar ideas. The following are a few quotes from her book:

YOU MAKE YOUR OWN REALITY. THERE IS NO OTHER RULE.
Knowing this is the secret of creativity.

Creativity and experience are being formed moment by moment by each individual.

You always know what you are doing, even when you do not realize it. You project your thoughts, feeling, and expectations outward: then you perceive them as the outward reality.

Man has been endowed and has endowed himself, with conscious mind to direct the nature, shape and form of his creations. All deep aspirations and unconscious motivations, all unspoken drives, rise up for approval or disapproval of the conscious mind and await its direction.

Only when the conscious mind abdicates its functions does it allow itself to become swayed by �negative� experience, Only when it refuses responsibility does it finally find itself at the seeming mercy of events over which it appears to have no control.


This is just a sample as I have about six pages of them. But I have found them to be thought provoking.
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I have not heard of June Roberts. But based on her quotes, I am sure you would enjoy renting the film, "What the Bleep Do We Know!? It is a semi-documentary which deals with how we create our own reality--how the material world assumes shape and substance out of our consciousness. Very entertaining. A sequel--actually an extended director's cut--will hit the theaters soon.

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Oops! My mistake, it is suppose to �Jane� not June. (The �computer� must have typed the wrong letter.) Anyway I am not surprise that you have not heard of her, the last I heard was she die 10 maybe 15 years ago. Of course she might be doing some ghost writing now.

The movie sound interesting I wonder if it will be in all theaters?
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Actually it is Jane Roberts and the book is "The Nature of Personality Reality" She died over 15 years ago now.

She also wrote the "Seth Material"

"The Education Of Oversould 7"

And several others.

The information she writes is channeled from an entitiy that spoke through her, she claims.

If you can get past the source it is facinating to read. Some of the best metaphysical books I ever read.

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Arrow:

You are right about the name of the book, I should have remember that. I loaned my copy out some time ago and never got it back and hence I forgot the name.
Still have a copy of oversoul #7.

�The information she writes is channeled from an entitiy that spoke through her, she claims.� Yep that is why I said, �Of course she might be doing some ghost writing now.�

I agree, �If you can get past the source it is fascinating to read. Some of the best metaphysical books I ever read.� When I was still working for someone else we spent many a lunch hour discussing her and Seth.
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