I'm asking this question because I am also "all natural" when it comes to the environment, especially water systems. So I came up with the idea for this discussion.

What do you think of...

Fish stocking/fisheries management

dam building and removal

The use of chemical herbicides and piscicides to control invasive or non-invasive plant and animal species

Shorline restoration and erosion

Sewage and organic pollution

I agree with fish stocking for ponds/lakes, etc for recreational fishing. But, NOT for farmed fish for eating.

I can go along with those little critters" who build their own dams as well as some large man made dams for power use.

I do NOT approve of herbicides and pesticides as run-off can do much damage.

I agree with shoreline restoration where severe erosion has taken place, esp. for farmland.

Not sure what you mean by sewage & Organic pollution?

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What do you think of...

Fish stocking/fisheries management
I agree with earlybird.

dam building and removal
Dams are good, but I�m thinking man made ones. As they can provide a more even flow of water year round. Also can provide pollution free electricity. But environmentalist don�t like them because they produce a wet-land with dying and rotting plants behind them. Yet if a farmer wants to drain a swamp he will be accused of destroying a wet-land.

The use of chemical herbicides and pesticides to control invasive or non-invasive plant and animal species
Yes but on a very limited bases.

Shoreline restoration and erosion
This can be a never ending task. So no, unless there is some particular reason to save a given shoreline.

Sewage and organic pollution
This should be naturally bio-degradable so all we need to do is find an appropriate spot for it to naturally bio-degrade in.

Okie Dokie, I have to give my thoughts on this now, since I started the thread!
No offense, but I am actually surprised that natural medicine folks are in support of some non-natural water management ideas.


Fish stocking/fisheries management
I agree with fisheries management to a certain extent. I agree with putting limits on the size and number of certain fish species you can keep when fishing. However, I do not agree with anything that forces more or less of a certain fish species in or out of a particular lake. So, no I do not agree with fish stocking.


dam building and removal
I do agree with certain dams used for electricity, since it is a form of "clean energy". But when dams are used to regulate water levels in a lake, you are crossing the line. Now you just want to try and reconstruct nature to fit your idea of what is "best".


The use of chemical herbicides and piscicides to control invasive or non-invasive plant and animal species
Never never never never and never! If you are trying to get rid of native species because all your fertilizers are making them grow, then get rid of the fertilizers, not the species in the lake!
There are plenty of alternatives to chemically killing invasive species. They may take more time and effort, but it's worth it not to poison a water body!

I look at it this way...I do not want to poison myself with drugs to defeat a disease, so why should lakes be any different?


Shorline restoration and erosion
Erosion is a natural process. But people have made it out to be a terrible thing! Why? Because rainwater and gravity wash all these nasty things into water bodies. So what do we do? We try to control the natural process instead of controlling the unnatural things that are entering the water!

I do not agree with building up walls to prevent erosion. I will agree with shoreline restoration, but only on one account. If you want to physically plant the species that you think should be planted on the shoreline, you are going way too far. Now you are trying to play God or mother nature and you are human, so back off! Instead, I agree with simply removing any kind of barriers on the shoreline and deciding a "buffer zone". Then just stop doing anything with that zone. Stop cutting the grass there and just leave it. It will eventually restore itself.


Sewage and organic pollution
Organic pollution is one way to strip your lake of dissolved Oxygen! If you are wondering why your fishery is so hard to maintain, then it's time you question your pollution. It seems as though too often we try to work around the sewage problems instead of just taking responsibility for them.

Kelly, I think it would be good for you and the rest of the world, to find a nearby wildlife refuge and volunteer as much as you can. Each one has a Friends group, which they need. I volunteer at one as the treasurer on the Board of Directors of the Friends of that refuge. It certainly opened my eyes to the plight of the planet.

We sometimes feel that endangered species don't deserve the priority we give them. They can't help that they are stupid. My refuge is trying to save 2 endangered bird species from encroaching civilization. These bird wander all over 2 continents, but only nest in my area in 2 different tree species. We need more land. The government has other priorities right now. The same thing happens in the Gulf of Mexico with certain turtles or other birds and reptiles.

https://www.fws.gov/

This is the one that I work with. https://friendsofbalcones.org/

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Chemist here: The classi example of pesticides being bad is DDT. It sticks to clay like soils and slowly leaks out. The DDT levels of fish in lake erie have continued to rise, even though DDT was stopped almost 40 yrs ago.