I don't think I have been talking about it on this forum but I have been following the predictions of a man named Lindsey Williams, a Christian minister who has had very close inside information from the oil companies. Over the past two years I have been, as we all have, watching this severe economic reality unfold. Lindsey Williams has predicted it all and most accurately. Now we are to face the inflation cycle. It will be severe. I suggest that if you have been holding back on major purchases, thinking prices will come down further now is the time to make that purchase. Glen Beck, who in general I think is a retard, addresses this issue a few days ago. He had brought on two people I think are worth listening to. Here it is.
YouTube - Peter Schiff on Glenn Beck | Inflation | 05-28-2009

Notice that this interview was made in July 2008 by Lindsey, before the huge crash was apparent.

This is it in a nutshell:



and here is the full story!... the predicted crash of T Bills



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And from Pravda we have this:
American capitalism gone with a whimper - Pravda.Ru

I hate to say it, but Pravda is more accurate in this subject than any American news agency.

Although it will not be quite as quick of a decline as they predict.

Dan

Here are some excellent notes on the topic that I found and brought here. It will make review of this topic easier.

and this link takes you to a video with comments dated March 4 2009. click on the screen to the right.
https://video.google.com/videosearch?...dsey+williams#
this video talks about emergency updates DVD. you can call this number at the Survival Center 1-800-321-2900 which I just did. You can purchase a survival update DVD for $29.95
Surprise! Marketing on our fears and concerns! I was so annoyed that I didn't ask when the update was produced.

Anybody purchase this update? When I heard this I just hung up the phone....but then again, the guys got to make a living I suppose.

Williams says oil will go to $8 a barrel this fall. He says that this will collapse opec nations, and really, probably any nation that produces oil. He also says that his opinion is that there will not be a North American currency, that a world currency is going to happen, and when it does the euro will be a thing of the past.


Dear Friends and Family:

For some years now, I have been saying that the "money changers" and "banksters" in London and New York are setting us up. They're playing a money game in which all of the marbles are on the table. It seems that this game is now in the bottom of the Ninth inning. Tonight I listened to the Reverend Lindsey Williams on American Voice Radio, hosted by Ms. Gianni Hayes. Some people will recognize his name, some won't. I am not going to go into a lengthy bio. You will have to do that research yourself, assuming you even have an interest. I will only mention that he is the man who, because of his contacts in the oil industry, correctly predicted that the world price for oil would fall from roughly $140.00 per barrel to less than $50.00 per barrel. He claims to be well connected to what he calls "the power elite," and I firmly believe that he is telling the truth. But, what he calls the power elite is just one level of corporate America. He interacted with the high paid servants of the oil industry. That would be the executives of ARCO and other big oil companies when he served as chaplain for the Alaska pipeline. He knows and admits that the "real power" is much further up the food chain. Bottom line? Personally, as far as I am concerned, Reverend Williams character and credibility are unimpeachable. I think it is very important to pay attention to what he has to say.

After two hours of interview I had four legal pages of notes. I am going to relate as best I can the highlights of that interview. Some of you will get duplications because some of you are on more than one of my mailing lists. Please understand. I consider this matter to be extremely important!

This will be rough, since it will be stream of consciousness, right off of my note pad. But it is the message that is important and not the delivery.

1. The reason why the "elite" dropped the world price of oil down below $50.00 a barrel was to wage economic warfare against the Arab/ OPEC countries. "They" seek to bankrupt OPEC countries., especially the Iranians by cutting their revenues more than 75%. (Do you think that is why Mr. Chavez is so belligerent towards the USA?) Why would they do that? Because Iran and the other OPEC states are getting too strong and too wealthy. The Iranians are running an oil bourse, that effectively sidesteps the oil markets of New York and London. (My note. Even worse they are trading oil not for dollars but for other currencies such as the Euro. This is a direct threat to the western banking system.) According to Williams, this will not be allowed to continue. This is about control!! "What is happening today has been planned for years and there are other more nefarious motives, which will be outlined below.

2. The world reserve currency is the dollar and dollar denominated assets such as U.S. Treasury Debt. The Arabs have been recycling their petro dollars into U.S. Treasury debt for thirty five years. (My comment. The Arabs/OPEC have been financing our national debt. This is per agreement with the New York Banking establishment, and the U.S. Treasury. This arrangement has been part of the world order since the collapse of the Bretton Wood Agreement in 1971. This is now coming to an end.) Now that they are being bankrupted (intentionally) the OPEC/Arab states are no longer willing or able to buy Treasury Debt. Hence, the interest on the National Debt (which now exceeds 15 Trillion dollars?) is not being financed by foreign creditors. China, India and other Asian states are doing the same thing. "They are running from dollar denominated assets." Therefore, the Federal Reserve is now buying up all the Treasury Debt issued by the U.S. Treasury to cover the debt maintenance on the national debt. (My Comment: this is called monetization and it is highly inflationary.) (My note: to put this in perspective, the so-called bailout, which was really nothing but a heist without the guns, in the amount of 700 billion dollars, was actually in the amount of 8.5 trillion dollars. All of this sum represents more debt "created" by the Federal Reserve which is then added to the National Debt. In addition to being extremely inflationary, we will be paying interest ("tribute?") on this debt to the banksters in perpetuity.)

3. Gold and Oil generally move in tandem i.e., when oil goes up, so does gold. This has not been the case since the oil market collapsed. Gold has shown huge relative strength to the price of oil. Because of intense world wide demand and speculation the relationship between gold and oil will no longer continue. Gold will now move independently of oil.

4. This year, 2009, the USA will face total financial collapse. The dollar will also collapse in value, and it will take years for the U.S.A. to recover.

5. OPEC has been cutting production steadily but they cannot influence the supply of oil enough to affect the world price.

6. Ms. Hayes tried to get pastor Lindsey to point the finger at a particular ethnic group. He would not do so, but much to his credit he said that the Papacy and the Jesuits had nothing to do with what was going on.

7. He said we have more than enough oil in the USA for our own needs, but the so-called "elite" as he calls them have no intention of EVER developing a major oil field in the continental U.S. or Alaska. "They" will not allow this country to become energy independent, and they intend to continue to keep us dependent on foreign oil sources. (My note: Dependency is another world for control.) Later he mentioned the field just disclosed by the USGS which is located in Montana and N. Dakota. (This I believe is the Bakken Field.) He said that it contains 320 billion barrels which is only 10% of the reserves. This oil is worth about 15 trillion dollars. (My note: in others words the 300 BB is the easy oil. It's the oil that will flow out of the ground under its own pressure. That means total reserves of this one field using secondary and tertiary recovery techniques are probably near three trillion barrels. To put that in perspective the Saudis have reserves of about 260 Billion barrels.) One of the senators from Montana has been screaming about this to Congress. He has been totally ignored by both Congress and the media.

8. Regarding Obama. "It did not matter who won the election." The handlers around Obama are, for the most part, members of the Council on Foreign Relations. "The elite." "The globalists." They are essentially the same people who ran the Clinton administration and both Bush Administrations. "There will be absolutely no change in either our domestic or foreign policy. (My note: the people who have looted this country will continue to loot this country.) Regarding economic policies "Obama" will be another Hoover." In other words Obama will follow orders and will take the fall for the economic calamity that is about to unfold. (My note: Obama is another feckless, empty suit, who was selected, trained, groomed, packaged and sold to a gullible, naive and lazy American public.)

9. Because of the tremendous cut in revenue to the Arab states (75%.) Dubai will become a "wasteland." Already they have suspended all construction on major buildings in Dubai. "There will be no change in the future. "

10. All of the Arab states are sliding into a depression. Their budget planning is based upon $80.00 oil, so they are cutting their expenditures dramatically----especially infrastructure and public works.

11. In addition to no longer buying our treasury debt, the Arab/OPEC states are now actively selling what treasury debt they hold. This is also occurring throughout Asia, especially China. This of course amounts to Trillions of dollars of Treasury debt etc. (My Note: if the Fed is now monitizing these debt instruments, which they must surely do since they are the buyer of last resort, this will also be highly inflationary.) The Arabs/OPEC/Asia are converting their dollars and dollar denominated assets to gold and other hard assets.

12. The long term goal of "these people" is to control and own everything. "They intend to break us." (My comment: Geeeez. I am confused. Here, all along, I have been told by the media that our enemies are in the Middle East.)

13. Gasoline will remain at approximately $1.50 per gallon for the next year to a year and half. This is killing the State government gas tax revenues. Total, state tax revenues are collapsing. Expect many states to go bankrupt----especially California.

14. "They" intend to control the world price of oil by dumping massive amounts of oil on the market to keep the price down. They intend to use, among other sources, an oil field in Indonesia that "they" just brought "on line." This field has reserves of more than 300 billion barrels. He also mentioned another field in northern Russia.

15. The ultimate objective is to "destroy the USA." At the same time "they" seek to consolidate control over all assets of any significance. "They" already own and control, the banks, and the media. (My note: Williams did not say, but obviously, they also control the oil industry.) "They" intend to gain control of the entire auto industry. According to Williams "why not buy the auto industry? All they need to do is create the credit in a computer entry." The takeover of the auto industry will happen when the time is right. They also seek control of all the real estate that is worth owning. According to pastor Williams, everyone is going to be paying rent by the time this thing is over. Again he emphasized that "After years of collapse they intend to own everything."

16. Russia is a major world power. Tensions will increase between the west and Russia. Look for a return of the cold war. (My note: he did not say it but I got the feeling that the Russians are not anxious to become part of the New World Order. Of course this oil price suppression is really hurting the Russians. They have had to devalue the Ruble seven times.)

17. "There will be no attack on Iran. There will no war with Iran." "The American people will not stand for it." They intend to accomplish their goal of destroying Iran by economic means. "They will accomplish their goal of destroying Iran without the need of another 911 false flag operation."

18. "Within six to nine months we will be into full blown hyper inflation." "Buy everything you need right NOW!!!!" "Prepare your dinner table NOW! It is going to be 1933 all over again."

19. "The nations of the world, especially China, are dumping U.S. currency and buying gold.

20. "The reason why it is getting so hard for people to buy gold is that "they" do not want people to be able to protect themselves." "They don't want people to have something that is REAL." (My note: it's hard to find any significant quantities of gold anywhere. Silver too!)

21. "They fear people buying gold because it is something "they" can NOT control. They feel that only they, the elite, should own gold.""They regard it as real money."

22. Their greatest fear is that the people will "wake up" from their slumber. "In fact they are terrified." They do not intend to impose martial law. They believe this would cause an armed revolution and that they do not want. Hmmmm. (I guess that is why the founders included the Second Amendment in the Constitution.) "A revolution means they could lose control."

23. "The American people are terrified of Obama." "The day after the election the gun shops in the USA were emptied by alarmed and frightened citizens." "Wal Mart reported that the day after the election their sales of ammunition went up by 400%. It was a record for ammunition sales in a twenty four hour period. (My note: this continued for several weeks after the election.) Evidently this behavior caused a great deal of alarm.

24. "They" have given up on implementing the North American Union and are "going all the way." The goal is total global control of everything. Global Government. Global bank. Global Currency. Etc. (My note: this NWO globalism business has always included a global army, and a global religion. I am sure we will be hearing more about global religion from "Americas pastor," Rick Warren)

Pastor Williams was asked what can we do? He made some suggestion which are not surprising. They are:

1. Get your spiritual house in order. (My note: I totally agree with Rev. Williams. At the core, this struggle is spiritual in nature. It is also a war on human consciousness. And, It is about both controlling and breaking the human spirit. That can only happen if we allow it to happen. "They" need us to surrender our God given powers to them for them to accomplish their evil deeds. Think, think, think! People must learn to use the magnificent brain that God gave us. Be skeptical of everything. In the coming months accept nothing at face value. Investigate everything. To do that you will need to turn off the "electronic sewer" "they" call television. Better yet, throw the damn thing in the dump where it belongs.The electronic and print media are a wasteland designed to keep you distracted, misled, confused and misinformed. You will NEVER discover anything of value watching boobokvision. Never!!!! Trust nobody until that person has EARNED your trust. And above all, question everything, especially if it comes from people in a position of authority. And, finally recognize that "the enemy" is within. The enemies of freedom are right here. Inside the gates.)

2. Plant a garden.

3. Get out of debt. He said debt is the main weapon of subversion and control used by "these people." (My note. I totally agree with that remark unless all of your debt is unsecured and you own no real assets. Can't squeeze blood from a stone.)

4. Store lots of food. "The farm economy is collapsing."

That was all he had to say, but I am sure everyone on this list can fill in the rest.

I would only add, that disclosure is what these parasitic cockroaches fear the most. So, feel free to circulate this memo. But, PLEASE remove my address. I don't want to be spammed. I have already won so many lotteries I just can't collect the money fast enough.

Get ready. Be prepared. Protect yourself and your family. Protect your fellow Americans.

Keep smiling!!! It confuses "the enemy."
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Good luck and God bless! Choose life!!!! Tom

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I have been following what Lindsey has been saying for some time. I don�t know if everything he says is true. But I am convinced that he is telling it as he understands it and the fact that many of his �predictions� have come true gives credibly to what he says.

I have no doubt that we are being controlled by an elite group of individuals of which there are probably groups within this group that are jocking for power. To them we are but pawns in a chess game to be moved around and sacrificed at will, whenever this is required to fulfill their addenda. By the control of MSM they are able to keep the average person clueless as to what is going on.

They are masters of Gorge Orwell�s �new speak�. We have a Fairness doctrine that limits freedom of speech. A Patriot act that limits basic rights. A Security and Prosperity Partnership agreement that has little to do with security and prosperity. We are told we have the right to keep and bare arms but we are also told guns are dangerous in the hands of the average person so in the name of safety laws are passed making it harder and harder to own a gun. Meanwhile boy scouts are being trained in the use of guns to �protect us� and spy on returning solders who might decide that this Orwellian society is not what they were fighting to preserve.

Gasoline is $2.65 a gallon right now in my area. So much for the $1.50 a gallon prediction.

The trouble I have with these conspiracy type theories is that it over estimates the intelligence and ability of any one group to influence and control basically everything in the world. All you have to do is watch the news and there are plenty of examples of how incompetent governments and people in general are.

There are always unknown factors and things beyond control. Most people and groups have a hard enough time just keeping their own house in order, much less controlling the world.

Keep plenty of fire arms (unregistered) and more importantly ammunition on hand. It never hurts to be a potential threat to the ruling class.

Dan

Re: Keep plenty of fire arms (unregistered) and more importantly ammunition on hand. It never hurts to be a potential threat to the ruling class.


I'll buy that--

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D Bergy, I was paying $1.50 for gas this winter! Oil had gone down to about 50 dollars a barrel. This is when Dubai started to fold up and shut down construction. In late March it was up to $1.80. where were you?

Guns... hmmm. I never thought it would come to this.
We purchased a hunting rifle this year and my son purchased a hand gun.
So we have a Remmington 77m mag., a 22 and the handgun in our circle.
So we can hunt if we need to, and fishing is great too in our soon to be new neighborhood.

I'm sorry. I just can't seem to get into the automatic or machine gun mode. If I have to start killing a bunch of people just to survive I think I just as soon check out.

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Buying a gun is no problem. But have you tried to buy ammunition for that gun? Almost impossible to find. The government doesn't need to control guns when there is no ammunition available.

We had no problem purchasing ammo for rifles and a hand gun. Go to Walmart! But I haven't tried to purchase bullets for a machine gun either. Where do you live to have such problems?

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Ammunition is available, but it is really high priced right now. Everyone is worried that the Obama administration is going to restrict firearms and ammunition, so ironically, there has never been more sold in recent times. When it causes shortages, you know they are selling a lot.

A fully automatic weapon is impractical for most real life situations. I good shot gun and a high powered rifle with a scope is far more useful. Fully automatic weapons are hard to come by as they are generally illegal without a ridiculous amount of permit requirements, if you can even get a permit.

You can get them if you dig a bit, but it is a risky proposition unless you know who you are dealing with. And do not get caught with one. I think the fine alone is $10,000. Could be jail time involved also.

Dan