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I got Doug Kaufmans book with the eating plan in it because of Sally's recommendations, Cant wait to start putting it into action.

The only thing I would suggest, is a really good B-complex vitamin.. Where did I read that a b vitamin deficiency causes anxiety attacks??? All I know is once I upped my b vitamins, the anxiety attacks went away

I believe on this site somewhere an article was posted about the lack of probiotics in a baby, and its relationship to eczema and other skin problems(if not it might have been that other forum)... I questioned a brand of probiotics on another thread, they look really good, am thinking about giving them a try.... Dont remember the name , but the thread had something in it about probiotics.
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Gene,

You have gotten some excellent advice here. Take your time, read and sort things out.

BUT! the nexium will have to be the first thing to go.

Things that cure ulcers are:
Grapefruit seed extract
Ozone water
MMS
Colloidal Silver in Large doses, I like NutraSilver brand

others may have other ideas also but these I have seen work.

You will have to be careful with your diet until you heal the ulcers first but they will heal quickly with the above. I helped to cure a very severe hpylori ulcer with grapefruit seed extract and ozone water. I think the grapefruit seed extract can do it on its own. GSE can be taken in tablet form. get it at www.iherb.com or here:
https://www.vitacost.com/productResul...seed%20extract

You can get the liquid and put drops into capsules (its cheaper) or you can get the tablets. I only use tablets these days ever since my husband got a cap stuck in his esophagus and it melted down.. the GSE burned him for all day.

HealthSalon has a couple of testimonials on MMS curing ulcers.

Stop the nexium as soon as you feel that you can. One reason that you have ulcers is because you don't have enough stomach acid to do the job and one of its jobs is to kill unwanted bacteria. You have reflux because you do not have enough stomach acid and digestive enzymes to kill bacteria and to digest properly. When you don't digest well it forms gas and pressure on the esophageal sphincter pushing upward stomach contents into the lower esophagus... hence reflux.

Since I used MMS my stomach functions so much better. No after meal bloating anymore and no reflux. I suspect that I had some kind of minor infection in my stomach causing me problems.

If the products recommended by Sally are from the Kaufman folks they will be good, I suspect.
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Wow! Thanks to all of you, really helpful folks on this board.

I'll re-read the replies, do my homework and I do agree with Arrow, the first thing is to take care of the ulcer so I may start taking suggested supplements, herbs, extracts, etc. without any of them irritating my stomach but in the meantime, I'm sure there are certain vitamins and supplements I could take to boost the immune system. As I said, I feel down (as if I've had burnout for about 2 years), got sleeping disorders (insomnia which keeps me up till 5-6 AM till I drop from exhaustion), irritable, stressed-out and all of this crap is playing havoc with my immune system.

I got an email and was wondering what you people think about what was also suggested for a rapid boost:

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You can take vitamin B-12 patches or transdermally. another option is under the tongue (sublingual). Take 1000mg vitamin b-12 every morning for two weeks to boost vitamin b12 then maintenance dosage.

MULTIVITAMIN WITH FREE FORM AMINO ACIDS.i recommend energy revitalization energy
TAURINE 1500mg twice a day
SHARK LIVER OIL OR FISH OIL 500-1000mg
TRANSDERMAL MAGNESIUM 500-1000MG
kefir TAKE HOMEMADE MILK KEFIR AFTER "ONE MONTH" OF ABOVE REGIMEN!!
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Transdermal mag is fine but I would take some orally also, about 400mg
magnesium chloride.

then B12. do 5,000 mcg orally daily for about a month or longer if you find it makes a difference. Twin Labs makes it.
You really can't overdose on the stuff

Again, read the thread on vitimin D3

Fish oil is fine. Generally 6 to 12 capsules a day are needed of most products to get enough EPA and DHA

I can't say about Keifer. Unless Keifer is raw it bothers my stomach. Can't get raw keifer in my neck of the woods.

Amino acids are great and you should be taking an easy to digest protien product like Jarrow Whey. You will cope better with digestion. See my post on Brain Nutrients in the Nutrition category and look for the Basic Ricepie
recepi reipie how do you spell recipe?

You know, the good bacteria in the gut produce B vitamins! A good high potency B vitamin is worth considering.
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Have you thought about having your thyroid tested? If you are feeling run down, but cant get to sleep at night, that is a couple symptoms of adrenal/thyroid problems.
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Transdermal mag is fine but I would take some orally also, about 400mg magnesium chloride.


Sounds good to me and btw, I wonder if magnesium is also available in sublingual form. I have no idea on where I could get "patches" around here.

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then B12. do 5,000 mcg orally daily for about a month or longer if you find it makes a difference. Twin Labs makes it. You really can't overdose on the stuff


Seems that B-12 is excellent, I remember getting B-12 shots when exhausted (running a restaurant/bar when living in Costa Rica and working 70 hours/week) and feeling a boost after a series of 3 shots.

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Again, read the thread on vitimin D3
Shall do...

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Fish oil is fine. Generally 6 to 12 capsules a day are needed of most products to get enough EPA and DHA
This person recommended shark liver oil but I wonder if quality Omega-3 capsules would be just as good.

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I can't say about Keifer. Unless Keifer is raw it bothers my stomach. Can't get raw keifer in my neck of the woods.
Guess I'll have to look that up and compare Keifer against the Multi-Probiotics (mostly Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium strains) which I already have.

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Amino acids are great and you should be taking an easy to digest protien product like Jarrow Whey. You will cope better with digestion. See my post on Brain Nutrients in the Nutrition category and look for the Basic Ricepie
recepi reipie how do you spell recipe?
OK, off to look into Jarrow Whey, thanks. BTW, according to my dictionary, it's "recipe"...

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You know, the good bacteria in the gut produce B vitamins! A good high potency B vitamin is worth considering.
Shall do, I'll get the sublingual kind tomorrow and see if some of the other products are available (such as the Jarrow Whey).

I'm also aware that vitamin C is a must but the darn things (tablets) burn a hole in my stomach...

BTW, here's good reading for you, the Canadian Govt. wants to pass a new bill (Bill C-51) which will really hurt the Alternative Medicine and home remedies industry, they'll probably take 60% of homeopathic products off the shelf. I assume that Big Pharma is behind this, losing billions from people who prefer CAM over traditional medicine.

Bill C-51
https://www2.parl.gc.ca/HousePublicat...3398126&file=4

NHPPA study on how it will affect CAM practitioners:
https://www.healthcanadaexposed.com/discussion.htm

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Thanks Sally, you sure lined me up for a lot of homework. LOL!

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IMO, "kicking-in and cleansing side-effects" are a sign that what you are taking is working! Probiotics are a must if you want to erradicate fungus from your digestive tract. When there is not enough good bacteria in the gut, the yeast takes over, as it obviosly has and you must replenish the good bacteria to get rid of the yeast. It sounds complicated but it is so worth it! Once you start to feel better you can't imagine why you didn't do it sooner!
Darn thing is that I stopped taking them on account of the following warning I found on many sites:

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Probiotics' safety has not been thoroughly studied scientifically, however. More information is especially needed on how safe they are for young children, elderly people, and people with compromised immune systems.

Probiotics' side effects, if they occur, tend to be mild and digestive (such as gas or bloating). More serious effects have been seen in some people. Probiotics might theoretically cause infections that need to be treated with antibiotics, especially in people with underlying health conditions. They could also cause unhealthy metabolic activities, too much stimulation of the immune system, or gene transfer (insertion of genetic material into a cell).

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There are at least nine case reports of severe, invasive (internal) fungal infections developing in people treated with the yeast organism Saccharomyces boulardii. All of these people were debilitated or had impaired immune function prior to receiving Saccharomyces boulardii. No such adverse reactions have been reported with other probiotic supplements or in people with normal immune systems.
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Somewhere on a site, I can't remember which, is a list of people in the world, who grow and send out free Kefer.

You may find someone locally or within several square miles, who will do this for you.
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I have extra kefir grains if you are wanting to make your own kefir... I have been using my grains in raw goats milk...From what I understand, they mail nicely...
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Gene,

IMO, the main reason your immune system is compromised is because you do not have enough good bacteria in your digestive tract. I believe probiotics are essential for a healthy immune system. I don't know who you quoted, but the only way you will ever recover from your maladies, is if you erradicate the fungus from your body. The only way you can do that is by taking probiotics and antifungals and going on an antifungal diet. As I said before, the best supplement you can take to improve your immune system is NSC Beta Glucan 1,3/1,6. Other forms of beta glucan (1,3) are too big and do not "fit" the receptors on every cell in our body. With the NSC beta glucan you only need 10 mg. With other forms of beta glucan you need around 1,500 mg. NSC beta glucan also kills fungus.

I used to believe that "not enough acid in the stomach" was the cause of GERD and ulcers. But after listening to Doug Kaufmann and reading his books, I now believe they are caused from fungus! When we eat sugar and/or grains any yeast in our body will go to the source and wreak havoc on the lining of our stomachs, thus causing Gerd and ulcers. Until you get rid of the yeast in your system, IMO you cannot begin to correct your other health issues. Nexium causes other health problems because their is no longer enough acid in the stomach to digest the food properly and many nutrients that are essential for our good health can no longer be absorbed into the blood stream and transported to our cells. If I overdo on occasion, and eat something sugary or high in carbs, I get GERD. As I said in another post, Dr. Simoncini recommends baking soda as a cure for ulcers. It also gets rid of GERD, if only temporarily. It must be used upon awakening in the morning, one tsp. in half glass of water, and between meals because it is very alkaline. You still need to have plenty of acid for digestion. The only way to completely rid yourself of GERD and ulcers is by going on an antifungal diet. Arrowwind is correct that grapefruit seed extract will help cure ulcers. Why, because it is an antifungal! I also used MMS to kill H. pylori in my gut, although I did not have ulcers at that time.

You say you are worried about taking probiotics because you read that they may have negative side effects. Did you read the list of side effects in the pamphlet that came with the Nexium and other meds you are taking? Sheesh, probiotics are essential to good health. Our bodies actually make them if given the right tools. I don't think we are ever deficient in Nexium or any meds for that matter! Probiotics not only keep our digestive tract healthy but they also are responsible for making nutrients such as B vitamins and digestive enzymes which you seem to be lacking. They keep bad bacteria and yeast from overgrowing! I take probiotics daily, so does my son, unfortunately, my husband is too lazy, but at least he takes a good multi. I believe that killing the fungus in your body will also cause a healing for your other health problems.

One of your quotes says that people were treated with yeast (fungus) which caused adverse reactions. That makes absolutely no sense at all to me. Why would yeast be used as a "treatment" of any kind?! Yeast is not a probiotic (good bacteria). It proves my point in a way. Yeast impairs the immune system, not good bacteria (probiotics)! There are 500,000 known species of fungus, approximately 400 are known to be harmful. Anyway, I guess I'll get off my soapbox for now! Good luck!

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Just a quick note, I'll answer all of the replies when my visitors leave.

Went to our local Natural Products store and they do have sublingual B-12 but they're not 1000mg but either 5000mcg or 1000mcg so I wonder if mcg's are the right dosage. And as far as Magnesium Chloride goes, no sublingual nor transdermal, only tablets or liquid form.

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Hey, Gene,

1000 mcg B-12 is correct dosage. Although I don't think anyone mentioned the fact that B vitamins should never be taken alone. They are synergistic. I recommend taking the sublingual B-12 with a B 100 Complex that has all of the B's in it.

You can purchase transdermal magnesium chloride at this website:

www.globallight.net

I buy MMS from them, too. They have alot of good info about transdermal magnesium. Check it out! Sign up for their newsletter. They sell products that are different from most online health venders. You can get a cd with info on most of the products they sell.

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1000 mcg B-12 is correct dosage. Although I don't think anyone mentioned the fact that B vitamins should never be taken alone. They are synergistic. I recommend taking the sublingual B-12 with a B 100 Complex that has all of the B's in it.
OK, so you recommend the 1000mcg over the 5000mcg's? Being that I want to go step by step with this (a few days of taking 1 or 2 supplements and check for interactions), would a good Multi-Vitamin (with the B's) be good enough? I've started taking them a few days ago and so far, so good.

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You can purchase transdermal magnesium chloride at this website:

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Checked them out only to see the following:
Miracle II Products can no longer be shipped to Canada

Health Canada is really clamping down on imported CAM products.

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I buy MMS from them, too. They have alot of good info about transdermal magnesium. Check it out! Sign up for their newsletter. They sell products that are different from most online health venders. You can get a cd with info on most of the products they sell.
I'm positive I can get MMS and oral magnesium from our local store, looks like I'll have a hard time getting goods from any other place than Canada, darn Health Canada and the upcoming Bill C-51.

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Hi,

I forgot to mention that I'm on Nexium occasionally (3-4 months/year) and started taking them again about 12 days ago, after trying different concoctions which either made my gut flare up and/or messed-up the electrolyte levels in my brain (sodium bicarb) which triggered frequent anxiety episodes.

In order to "slip into this" gradually, what would you think I'd start off with 1000mcg B12 sublingual and a good quality multi vitamin which also contains the other "B's".

If there is no adverse reaction after a few days, include another suggested product but one at a time and once again, watch for adverse reactions.

I'm also slowly going off the bland diet because my gut feels better and have also been consuming a fair amount of spinach, apples, whole wheat bread and the like.

As you can tell, I want to take the suggested goods but I'm only playing careful, I only wish to avoid another "bad 2 weeks" on account of intolerance to certain products and I think I'm better off doing things one step at a time.

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Gene, You cannot get MMS from your local store but you can get it from me.
PM me. I sell much cheaper than global light and it is THEIR product which I purchased from them in bulk.

B12 5,000mcg is a good choice especially with the nervous system stress you have had. And yes, do take a complete b vitamin. This is what I am using.

If you cannot get magnesium chloride, magnesium citrate would be the next choice. Do not use magnesium oxide.

We should be able to find another source of mag. chloride, with a little time


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https://www.iherb.com/Search.aspx?c=1&st=l&kw=B+12+Dots
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