eye ulcers in my doggie :(

scorpiotiger · � #1 � 12-06-2008, 11:11 AM

My doggie, Sophie, is developing cataracts. as a result of that, she has been running into things (twigs outside that have fallen, etc.) and has ended up with ulcers in her eyes (from scratches). I have been putting drops in her eyes given to me by the vet.. but, I don't seem to be making much progress. Poor thing, her eyes are red, and she sleeps all the time (I think because her eyes hurt).

Is there anything I can do to speed up the healing? I've started giving her collodial silver, and vitamin c in her food. I was wondering if I can give grapefruit seed extract.. if that would help?

Arrowwind09 · � #2 � 12-06-2008, 11:23 AM

Put the colloidal silver in the eyes twice a day. It should take care of the infection.

For cataracts there is a carnosine eye drop. I'll see if I can find it.

Arrowwind09 · � #3 � 12-06-2008, 11:31 AM

Look through this and see what you think. It might be worth a try.

Pete's Place Nutritional Supplement Blog: Carnosine Eye Drops Glaucoma, Cataract Feedback

https://search.lef.org/search/default...%20eye%20drops

https://www.betterlife.com/prod_home_...?prod_id=20676

Carnosine Eye Drops (w/ 1% N-Acetyl-L-Carnosine) (Ingredient / Carnosine Eye Drops)

N-Acetyl-Carnosine eye drops cataract treatment- does it work?

Wise Choice Medicine

Can-C carnosine eye drop information from Mark Babizhayev

scorpiotiger · � #4 � 12-06-2008, 11:40 AM

I've read all those.. but I was hoping to clear up the eye infection before trying the eye drops for glaucoma.

I think the problem is that she can't see, and even though the eyes get better for a bit, I think she gets them scratched again. Boston Terriers have those protuding eyes and have a problem with their eyes getting scratches.. but she never had that much of a problem until her sight started going.

I'm going to order an angel vest for her:
pics

and maybe I can prevent her from getting any more scratches.. and get her eyes healed up for good.

I was even thinking of trying MMS on her.. do you think that might help her heal up? She is 35 lbs.. I was thinking I don't want to try more than one drop. don't want to make her sick. but.. I was thinking that might help. What do you think?

Arrowwind09 · � #5 � 12-06-2008, 11:58 AM

Many animals do well on MMS and I give it to my dog periodically. I don't know if it will help the eye ulcers or not. I do know that colloidal silver will.

I give it to my dog unactivated. He's 60 pounds. I give him 4 drops in his water when I think he is thirsty. I'd give your dog 2 drops. Unactivated mms is 7 times stronger than the oxydrops that have been used for 30 years. They don't make my dog sick.

With mms activated there is always the risk that he will vomit. In which case I would keep him outside when you do it and I would start with one drop just to see where his tolerance level is.

Really, you wont get past the ulcers if they are caused by scratches, until his vision improves. If it were me I would keep him in a safe place, do the colloidal silver for 2 days then start the carnsine drops and see if they can improve his vision. The mms will improve his general health and knock down the parasites both visible ones that he may have and the invisible ones that he for sure has.

Cute pup.

Harry Hirsute · � #6 � 12-06-2008, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scorpiotiger

My doggie, Sophie, is developing cataracts. as a result of that, she has been running into things (twigs outside that have fallen, etc.) and has ended up with ulcers in her eyes (from scratches). I have been putting drops in her eyes given to me by the vet.. but, I don't seem to be making much progress. Poor thing, her eyes are red, and she sleeps all the time (I think because her eyes hurt).

Is there anything I can do to speed up the healing? I've started giving her collodial silver, and vitamin c in her food. I was wondering if I can give grapefruit seed extract.. if that would help?

I'm sorry to hear this, ST. Very sad.

I'm just trying to think outside of the box here. What about considering krill oil? It may be good for the eyes (due to the omega-3 content and the potent-antioxidant, astaxanthin) and it could help to reduce inflammation.

I'm not sure if it would speed the healing process. But, it might boost her mood a little. And, it would only require a relatively small dosage.

I think the added vitamin C sounds like a good idea. Maybe upgrading her food to the top-of-the-line natural dog food could also help. She may already be on such a food. But, if not, consider giving it a shot.

Perhaps there's a holistic vet in your area? In case you want to check into that:

Natural Veterinary - Holistic Veterinarians: a listing

Please note that some offer telephone consults.

I hope you find the best possible answers. I'll be rooting for your sweet pup.

scorpiotiger · � #7 � 12-06-2008, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrowwind09

Many animals do well on MMS and I give it to my dog periodically. I don't know if it will help the eye ulcers or not. I do know that colloidal silver will.

I give it to my dog unactivated. He's 60 pounds. I give him 4 drops in his water when I think he is thirsty. I'd give your dog 2 drops. Unactivated mms is 7 times stronger than the oxydrops that have been used for 30 years. They don't make my dog sick.

With mms activated there is always the risk that he will vomit. In which case I would keep him outside when you do it and I would start with one drop just to see where his tolerance level is.

Really, you wont get past the ulcers if they are caused by scratches, until his vision improves. If it were me I would keep him in a safe place, do the colloidal silver for 2 days then start the carnsine drops and see if they can improve his vision. The mms will improve his general health and knock down the parasites both visible ones that he may have and the invisible ones that he for sure has.

Cute pup.

Thanks, Arrowwind. but.. even if you keep the eyes protected, eye ulcers take a long time to heal. I was reading.. weeks, and sometimes months. That's why I want to try to find something to help speed it along, and I thought that maybe the MMS would help to kill the bacteria in the ulcer - along with the collodial silver.

How often do you think it is safe to put the collodial drops in her eyes? I was putting the drops from the vet every 4 hours.. can I do that with collodial silver? I have come to like collodial silver after trying everything for whatever was on one foot, and having collodial silver fix it within a a few days.

and.. can I just mix the MMS drop with water and add it to her food? The problem is the cat drinks the dog's water all the time (it must taste so much better than her own water).. and she has a delicate stomach. So, I would like to put it in her food. If I mixed it with water and added it to a treat, she would eat it right away.

scorpiotiger · � #8 � 12-06-2008, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Harry Hirsute

I'm sorry to hear this, ST. Very sad.

I'm just trying to think outside of the box here. What about considering krill oil? It may be good for the eyes (due to the omega-3 content and the potent-antioxidant, astaxanthin) and it could help to reduce inflammation.

I'm not sure if it would speed the healing process. But, it might boost her mood a little. And, it would only require a relatively small dosage.

I think the added vitamin C sounds like a good idea. Maybe upgrading her food to the top-of-the-line natural dog food could also help. She may already be on such a food. But, if not, consider giving it a shot.

Perhaps there's a holistic vet in your area? In case you want to check into that:

Natural Veterinary - Holistic Veterinarians: a listing

Please note that some offer telephone consults.

I hope you find the best possible answers. I'll be rooting for your sweet pup.

thanks.. no vets in my area.

but... I think upgrading the food might be a good idea. I feed her the Chicken Soup brand which is good, but I will check out some others.

the krill oil.. hmm.. I never would have thought of that. She loves sardines.. maybe it wouldn't hurt to give her a can more regularly.

Arrowwind09 · � #9 � 12-07-2008, 10:41 AM

I would not put the MMS in the food as it will oxidize the food and lose its potency to do the work. Just put it in the water and let both your pets benefit.

When I flush my dogs eyes I take an ounce measure and flush half into each eye twice a day. I liked this cause it helped wash out eye gunk at the same time but here is no reason that you could not use an eye dropper and put in some every 4 hours. How much? Enough to fully wet the eye.

The carnosine eye drops Bright Eyes from LEF have a lubrication ingredient that I suspect would be very helpful.

You can read about using sodium chlorite for animals here. Just remember that MMS is 7 times stronger per drop.

https://www.nzymes.com/index.htm

scorpiotiger · � #10 � 12-07-2008, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrowwind09

I would not put the MMS in the food as it will oxidize the food and lose its potency to do the work. Just put it in the water and let both your pets benefit.

When I flush my dogs eyes I take an ounce measure and flush half into each eye twice a day. I liked this cause it helped wash out eye gunk at the same time but here is no reason that you could not use an eye dropper and put in some every 4 hours. How much? Enough to fully wet the eye.

The carnosine eye drops Bright Eyes from LEF have a lubrication ingredient that I suspect would be very helpful.

You can read about using sodium chlorite for animals here. Just remember that MMS is 7 times stronger per drop.

Dog Health - Cat Health - Pet Health - Horse Health - Human Health | NZYMES.COM (PT)

so.. they are selling watered down MMS..

I am going to try the carnosine drops. A cataract operation is $3000. and.. you don't know if there are side effects (like a detached retina).

so, the carnosine drops are definitely worth trying. I was looking at the rife machine after reading this:

Page 12

I contacted the guy, and he said his dog retained her sight until she died.

but... I think the carnosine drops are the best first step.

Arrowwind, I have one more question. The reason I use the eyedropper is I hold her eye open while I put in the drops. How do you keep your dog's eye open when you flush their eye?

the problem with putting it in the water is that my cat is small.. and she urps her food half the time. she also drinks the dog's water all the time.

so.. I think I might just mix ONE drop with some water and give it to my dog with a dropper. That should be ok.. right? or will it be too strong all at once with just a little an ounce of water?

Harry Hirsute · � #11 � 12-07-2008, 05:11 PM

ST,

re: wound healing

Check out this link: https://www.healthnotes.info/qs_db/he...tentID=1056000

More easily-digestible protein may help. Lots of nutrients play a role. That's why I was thinking about finding an ultra-potent, high-end food. Some of those foods have added antioxidants, probiotics and other helpful goodies.

Or, maybe adding some additional nutrients, in the form of a treat may be easier?

https://www.naturalpetmarket.com/prod...categoryid=188

https://www.petfooddirect.com/store/p..._id=238&Page=3

https://www.petfooddirect.com/store/p..._id=164&Page=2

Arrowwind09 · � #12 � 12-07-2008, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scorpiotiger

so.. they are selling watered down MMS..

Arrowwind, I have one more question. The reason I use the eyedropper is I hold her eye open while I put in the drops. How do you keep your dog's eye open when you flush their eye?

so.. I think I might just mix ONE drop with some water and give it to my dog with a dropper. That should be ok.. right? or will it be too strong all at once with just a little an ounce of water?

Hey. I'm a nurse. We learn how to get our way

I just use my thumb and forefinger and hold the lids open. My son has to hold the dog down cause he's much stronger than me.

Yea, put one drop in water in a dropper and see what happens. Then see if you can get him to drink some more water if you can. It would be better if it were a least an hour after eating but not on a completely empty stomach. So when you see him eat, let him eat, then take the food away, wait an hour, then go after him.

Arrowwind09 · � #13 � 12-07-2008, 06:34 PM

When I upgrade my dogs food I give a couple of raw eggs in with his kibble, squirt on a few caps of fish oil and mix in a scoop of Jarrow whey.

scorpiotiger · � #14 � 12-07-2008, 09:36 PM

this is the dog food I normally give her:

Chicken Soup for the Pet Lover's Soul : Products : Dogs : Canned Food : Adult Dog Formula

Quote:

IngredientsChicken, turkey, chicken broth, duck, salmon, chicken liver, whole grain brown rice, white rice, oatmeal, carrots, peas, potatoes, barley, egg product, guar gum, flaxseed meal, kelp, apples, dried skim milk, cranberry powder, rosemary extract, parsley flake, dried chicory root, carrageenan gum, vitamin A acetate, vitamin D3 supplement, ascorbic acid, niacin supplement, calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, thiamine mononitrate, pyridoxine hydrochloride, vitamin B12 supplement, biotin, folic acid, zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, calcium iodate and sodium selenite.

nzymes.com is a good pet site, Arrowwind, thanks for the link.

Harry Hirsute · � #15 � 12-09-2008, 10:43 AM

I'm not sure if you could still walk your doggie, under the given circumstances, but if you can ... it just might promote the healing process:

Exercise May Play Role In Reducing Inflammation In Damaged Skin Tissue

Quote:

“The key point of the study is that moderate exercise sped up how fast wounds heal in old mice,” said researcher K. Todd Keylock, who noted that the improved healing response “may be the result of an exercise-induced anti-inflammatory response in the wound.”

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