Just found this on Mike Adam's website. The FDA accused a church of making claims about supplements they sold recently, and in today's news bulletin a doctor has been arrested. On second thought, it says he is a nutritionalist, and I don't believe that means he is a doctor.

Chrysalis Nutritionist Stephen Heuer Arrested by Federal Marshalls in FDA Raid

Any impact on this board? We don't sell any products, we don't use any product affiliation program. We only display ads from Google, any illegal ads should be filtered by Google first, I think.

I don't understand. I'm not selling anything or helping anyone else sell anything. If you don't approve of the subject matter I will remove it. I have for quite some time been concerned that we are about to totally lose our rights to use home remedies, even if it's vitamins and minerals. How do I go about filtering something through Google?

No, nightowl, it's a good post, thanks for sharing the news.

I'm just wondering if FDA will give websites, that provide natural health information, a hard time.

Whew!! I thought you were mad at me!

I can see your point and it was mentioned somewhere that over 100 contacts or charges had been drawn up recently related to this movement by the FDA. No, we don't sell anything and should be cautious about claiming any cures.

As the law stands now we can claim cures but we must not associate it with the direct sale or profit from any product. It is not illegal to recommend companies that sell products as long as you are not affiliated with them. If you are a naturopathic doctor you have other rights that protect you. Some states permit the practice of alternative medicine by lay people with protections by the law.

Of course this is routinely ignored by thousands of companies and they take a risk. Generally when something happens as found in the above article someone has made a complaint to the FDA about the company.

We don't have anything to worry about.

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Thanks, Arrow! Glad to know that. I definitely don't want to get any trouble by running this board.

The US FDA would have a heck of a time getting to you where you live anyway!
The only have jurisdiction on US soil.

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I hope to count on health forums, such as this one, to continue to introduce me to alt meds and health protocols. I feel that, in the future, supplement vendors will not be able to say anything helpful.

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A church, in USA, is a non-profit organization. The FTC or FDA should turn the church over to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), who will "test" their non-profit status.

This is, so far, a secular country. There have been incidents of churches being denied non-profit status, when they have campaigned for political characters. This happened in the 2004 presidential campaign with 2 churches. The IRS can declare that they are no longer non-profit (501(c)3 status) and will be required to pay taxes on assets and income.

The same thing can happen when they sell product for profit.

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Those running the HSI forum are now moderating out many posts completely because they contain Links to source material. Several of my recent posts have never appeared after my having been informed that a Moderator would first have to review them. Because of the timing of HSI's change in policy regarding postings with Links, it is likely that their action is in response to pressure from the FDA in its quest to run the alternative health care industry into the ground, or in anticipation in order to prevent heavy legal costs which necessarily would be incurred even though HSI would be technically/legally innocent of any wrongdoing. In that regard, HSI's disallowance of Links to source material in posts relates directly to the old saying, "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure!" The situation is explained extremely well by both Mike Adams and Dr. Mercola:

The FDA is Running an Extortion Racket - Articles

and

FDA Running Extortion Racket: Natural Supplement Companies Threatened with Arrest if They Don't Pay Up

Thanks, Beach Man! Your post is very helpful, I have been reading the linked articles carefully... I think I will do something about the forum.

Remember, HSI is associated with physicians and products. We don't have that here. So they are susceptible to control tactics from the power mongers.

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I added a link policy in the FAQ page, not much changes, just some common sense on forum usage, I didn't make it a written rule until now. Product links are considered as spams on most forums all the time, and spammy links are always frown up.

Thanks Kevin. You have made this forum a very friendly place. I enjoy being here. Your rules are reasonable. I like to see links to articles in posts; so that there can be some follow-up by the reader.

I understand that links to vendors can pose a problem. If posters wanted, I suppose they can PM each other for recommended vendors.

I think the FDA would consider this water cooler talk. No goods or services are sold on this board. Maybe you could have that info in a sticky or banner - that no goods or services are sold on this board.

If the FDA gets too much stronger, it will be difficult to find information about any alternative health substance. It will make it difficult even for the major vendors. They will have to be very careful what they admit. I even wonder if the disclosure that the information has not been checked by the FDA will be worth the effort. This certainly will stop the multilevel marketing and pyramid sales. It could even put local health store out of business.

I wonder how the European citizens are handling the supplement management under Codex.

Thanks for being here.

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