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Some one sent me some worrisome info about the amount of flu that is being under reported. Here is what I received.

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Subject: Flu Update from Dr. Gitterle
After I returned from a public health meeting yesterday with community leaders and school officials in Comal County , Heather suggested I send an update to everyone, because what we are hearing privately from the CDC and Health Department is so different from what you are hearing in the media. Some of you know some or maybe all of this, but I will just list what facts I know.
The virus is infectious for about 2 days prior to symptom onset
Virus sheds more than 7 days after symptom onset (possibly as long as 9 days) (this is unusual)
Since it is such a novel (new) virus, there is no "herd immunity," so the "attack rate" is very high. This is the percentage of people who come down with a virus if exposed. Almost everyone who is exposed to this virus will become infected, though not all will be symptomatc. That is much higher than seasonal flu, which averages 10-15%. The "clinical attack rate" may be around 40-50%. This is the number of people who show symptoms. This is a huge number. It is hard to convey the seriousness of this.
The virulence (deadliness) of this virus is as bad here as in Mexico , and there are folks on ventilators here in the US , right now. This has not been in the media, but a 23 month old near here is fighting for his life, and a pregnant woman just south of San Antonio is fighting for her life. In Mexico , these folks might have died already, but here in the US , folks are getting Tamiflu or Relenza quickly, and we have ready access to ventilators. What this means is that within a couple of weeks, regional hospitals will likely become overwhelmed.
Some of the kids with positive cases in Comal County had more than 70 contacts before diagnosis.
There are 10-25 times more actual cases (not "possible" cases -- actual), than what is being reported in the media. The way they fudge on reporting this is that it takes 3 days to get the confirmatory nod from the CDC on a given viral culture, but based on epidemiological grounds, we know that there are more than 10 cases for each "confirmed" case right now.
During the night, we crossed the threshold for the definition of a WHO, Phase 6 global pandemic. This has not happened in any of our lifetimes so far. We are in uncharted territory.
I expect President Obama will declare an emergency sometime in the next 72-96 hours. This may not happen, but if it doesn't, I will be surprised. When this happens, all public gathering will be cancelled for 10 days.
I suggest all of us avoid public gatherings. Outdoor activities are not as likely to lead to infection. It is contained areas and close contact that are the biggest risk.
Tamiflu is running out. There is a national stockpile, but it will have to be carefully managed, as it is not enough to treat the likely number of infections when this is full-blown. I don't think there is a big supply of Relenza, but I do not know those numbers. If I had to choose, I would take Relenza, as I think it gets more drug to the affected tissue than Tamiflu.
You should avoid going to the ER if you think you have been exposed or are symptomatic. ER's south of here are becoming overwhelmed -- and I mean that -- already. It is coming in waves, but the waves are getting bigger.

It appears that this flu produces a distinctive "hoarseness" in many victims. The symptoms, in general, match other flu's; namely, sore throat, body aches, headache, cough, and fever. Some have all these symptoms, while others may have only one or two.
N-Acetyl-Cysteine -- a nutritional supplement available at the health food store or Wimberley Pharmacy, has been shown to prevent or lessen the severity of influenza. I suggest 1200mg, twice a day for adults, and 600mg twice a day in kids over 12. It would be hard to get kids under 12 to take it, but you could try opening the capsules and putting it on yogurt. For 40 pounds and up, 300-600 mg twice a day, for less than 40 pounds, half that.
Oscillococinum, a homeopathic remedy, has been vindicated as quite effective in a large clinical trial in Europe , with an H1N1 variant. You can buy this at Hill Country Natural Foods, or the Wimberley Pharmacy.
I will try to keep everyone posted if I have any new information. Meanwhile, don't be afraid just avoid infection. The fewer people infected the easier it will be for our public officials to manage it.

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https://www.prisonplanet.com/texas-docto � orted.html

Doctors in New Braunfels TX (Texas Physicians)

Someone can check his back round out if they want.
Dr. Marcus Gitterle, MD, Emergency Medicine, located in New Braunfels, TX - Free reports and ratings
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If BO comes on the TV and tells us not to worry and everything is being taking care of, that's when I will really start to worry.
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Did you heard Joe Biden today? Makes me think he knows something we don't yet.
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Here is a note from another forum. Bet this Doctor got scolded for writing what he did.


Um, it was just on tonight's news that Dr. Gitterle is now back-peddling.
He says this was not meant for public use, he had just written it and sent
it to a few friends. He had no idea it would spread through the Internet so
fast. :-) He is quoted now as saying the "hospitals and doctors are doing a
fine job and that it's not as serious as he first wrote".

I live by where all this is going on. They have only 3 cases of high
school boys sick with what they have determined is the swine flu. They boys
are perfectly fine. Here's a statement in a report:

No American deaths have been reported and most affected by the virus had
light symptoms, recovering fast. But it has popped up in New York, Ohio,
Kansas, Texas and California as well as Canada and Europe

Though there are only 3 cases here (San Antonio) they have closed all the
schools, cancelled all school sports and activities until the 11th of May.

A bit over cautious I'd say.
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There was a death in houston... granted, it was a young child from mexico. supposedly was visiting relatives in brownsville when he got sick.. According to the news, they transferred him to houston hospital for care, and he died there..According to what I have been told, we have confirmed cases in ft bend county... Supposedly alot of schools in houston have been closed.
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