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My homoglobin is around 11.6Hb to 11.9Hb Does anyone know how to make it lower than 11.0Hb?

I am 25 male with Thalassemia. I need it be lower than 11.0Hb for personal reason.

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My homoglobin is around 11.6Hb to 11.9Hb Does anyone know how to make it lower than 11.0Hb?
Try drinking green tea with yourmeals. Tea impedes iron absorption.
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Why would you want to make it lower? If you did it would be abnormally low. It already is a trace low if you are a woman. The normal range for hemoglobin is between 12 and 16 or women and 14 and 18 for men.... slightly lower for middle aged people.
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You did not say if you are male or female. Males have a difficult time eliminating iron; so should not take iron supplements. Women eliminate iron through menstruation. Men can accomplish the same thing through donating blood occasionally.

Watch out for high iron sources, like black strap molasses. I use IP6 to help control my iron; as well as very many other metals. https://www.naturalnews.com/IP6.html

This is an excellent article, with references, regarding iron.

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Humans absorb only a fraction of the iron they consume, but there are many controlling factors. [ 20 ] Iron absorption rates from food vary widely, from less than 1 percent to nearly 100 percent. [ 21 ] Cooks who use iron or stainless steel pots increase the amount of iron they consume. [ 22 ] Generally, iron in plant foods is not as well absorbed as iron from meat: Only 5 percent of iron in plant foods is available, vs. 30 to 50 percent of iron from meat. [ 23 ] Olive oil and spices such as anise, caraway, cumin, licorice and mint promote iron absorption, [ 24 ] while antacids, eggs and soy reduce availability. [ 25 ] Since dairy products contain lactoferrin, milk also inhibits the absorption of iron. [ 26 ] Moderate alcohol consumption is unlikely to pose a problem with iron absorption, but excessive amounts of alcohol is associated with iron overload, particularly in adult males. [ 27 ]

Vitamin C also increases iron absorption. [ 28 ] However, there is no evidence that vitamin C leads to iron overload. Thus vitamin C should not be avoided by meat-eaters for this reason, since studies show high-dose vitamin C supplements are associated with a decreased risk for heart disease, cancer, cataracts and other disorders. [ 29 ] A vegetarian diet does not generally cause iron-deficiency anemia because there is more vitamin C in plant-food diets, which enhances absorption. [ 30 ]

A 1982 human study was conducted to assess the effect of various drinks on iron absorption. A subject ate a standard meal of a hamburger, string beans, mashed potatoes and water. When green tea was drunk instead of water, iron absorption was reduced by 62 percent. Coffee reduced iron absorption by 35 percent, whereas orange juice (as a source of vitamin C) increased absorption by 85 percent. Contrary to other studies, milk and beer had no significant effect. [ 31 ]

Bioflavonoids (found in berries, coffee, green tea, pine bark, quercetin and the rind of citrus fruits, particularly blueberry, cranberry, elderberry and grape seed) and phytic acid (a component of whole grains and seeds such as sesame) bind to iron and other minerals in the gastric tract and help to limit iron availability. If bioflavonoids and phytic acid haven't bound to minerals in the digestive tract they will get into the bloodstream, where they can bind to free iron, acting as blood-cleansing iron chelators. Therefore, maximum iron chelation in the blood circulation is achieved when these iron binders are consumed apart from meals.

Phytic acid�also called inositol hexaphosphate, or IP6�is comprised of six phosphorus molecules and one molecule of inositol. It has been mistakenly described for decades as an "anti-nutrient" because it impairs mineral absorption. However, in the 1980s food biochemist Ernst Graf, Ph.D., began to tout phytic acid for its beneficial antioxidant properties achieved through mineral chelation. [ 32 ]

Phytic acid in foods or bran should be distinguished from supplemental phytic acid, which is derived from rice bran extract. In foods, phytic acid binds to iron and other minerals in the digestive tract and may interfere with mineral absorption. As a purified extract of rice bran, taken between meals so it will not bind to minerals in the digestive tract, phytic acid is readily absorbed into the bloodstream, where it acts as a potent mineral chelator. [ 33 ] Phytic acid binds to any free iron or other minerals (even heavy metals such as mercury, lead and cadmium) in the blood, which are then eliminated through the kidneys. Phytic acid removes only excess or unbound minerals, not mineral ions already attached to proteins.
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Why do women live 4 to 7 years longer than men on average?

Answer: Because they menstrate. That prevents iron overload. Iron is an oxidizer and is necessary for production of red blood cells, however, only a small amount is needed. Extra iron works in the same manner as rust on a car.

Men don't menstrate, however, can donate blood two or three times per year.
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Still want to know why this guy wants to lower his hemeglobin count from 11.9
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