Yes that is potentially a source of the extra numbers. but 3% more diagnosed every year means it is doubling the incidence every 10 yrs. If it continues at that rate everyone will have it by the time our grandchildren grow up. Surely you don't think it is natural for a condition that did only involve 2 per 100,000 to be growing at such a fast rate.

No If you bothered to watch the video in my first post you would understand the mechanics explaining how sunscreen actually initiates the cancer process. It should read more sunscreen sales cause more skin cancer incidence. What it is doing is allowing people to stay longer in UVA skin damaging Vitamin D degrading sunlight.

Start by reading post 6 in this thread.

Marilyn, I use NO sunscreen at all - EVER! I'm a 74 year old, caucasion
female, go to a swimming pool almost every day in the Summer, and have
never used sunscreen in my life. I'm at the pool from 10 am until Noon daily.
If I use anything it's a thin coating of baby oil w/iodine in it but usually not
even that. I do take a daily Vit D3 supplement during the rest of the year -
2 beadlets daily of 5000 Vit D3.
Also, I never have used any moisturizers on my skin at any time. And I have almost no wrinkles. I have had NO melanomas - ever! I do spray
water on myself to get a better tan/burn.

2 of my daughters use sunscreen all of the time. One daughter, age 49, has had several melanomas removed. The younger daughter, age 47 has had none. Both have baked in the sun for many years and hours. Go figure!

But like Ted, it can be done. Good Luck!

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If you hadn't gotten all that sun exposure years ago what is to say you wouldn't have become ill from Vit D deficiency??

Explain why you got skin cancer on your cheek before you used sunscreens?

I get more sun exposure than anyone you have ever met, and have done so since I was 5 years old. If the sun causes skin cancer why haven't I developed skin cancer??

If you have ample antioxidant protection and are not suffering from inflammation (due especially to excessive PUFA consumption) then you probably won't burn. If you think you will then apply cocoa butter before and after sun exposure. I have used it routinely for years and have pristine skin with a deep dark tan.

Not just 'NO' but hell no!

I did, as you say, bother to watch the video, the first time around, I'm just not quite convinced yet - I'm not convinced that eating the right things can keep me from getting crispy after a whole day on a saiboat in Sydney, for example...

Thee Phenom and Early Bird, I think it's fabulous that you don't get skin cancer after sitting all day in the sun, really fabulous... I'm jealous

As has been explained previously different fats have different effects on the skin's ability to deal with inflammatory stress.

Some industrially made omega 6 rich vegetable/seed oils promote inflammation while other omega 3 rich fats improve the ability to cool inflammation.

if you consume a mix of both omega 6 and omega 3 at the same time the omega 6 oils always win because our bodies did not evolve to handle large amount of corn, soya, sunflower, safflower industrially made omega 6. The smaller amount sourced from eating whole seeds/nuts are natural and a small amount of omega 6 is essential. But most UK adults have a ratio of 10~12 omega 6 to 1 omega 3
and most US adults have a ratio more like 16~20 omega 6 to 1 omega 3.

While the ratio is above 4.5omega 6 to 1 omega 3 the omega 6 takes over and displaces any omega 3 in cells. So JUST taking omega 3 even in quite large amounts doesn't completely solve the problem. You also need to stop eating foods that contain those industrially made oils and use butter, coconut oil, MCT oil, lard or perhaps olive oil and you have to understand it take about 2yrs to change HALF the cells in your body and perhaps 5 yrs to change them all back to the specification your DNA evolved to work best with.

But the good news is the immediate benefits of higher omega 3 lower omega 6 intake occur almost straight away. In some USA hospitals where they are having to take a certain percent of non payers they found sending out an omega 3 rich diet pack for the patient to consume the week prior to surgery was cost effective in enabling them to discharge those surgery patients earlier and with fewer complications. It isn't just the bodies ability to deal with stress that is improved with omega 3 the same happens with inflammation in the brain, improving omega 3 status has a direct impact on reducing violence and abuse both against others and also self inflicted.

So if you are planning the Sydney sailing make it for a couple of years time when the results of your improving natural photo protection efforts should be bearing fruit. Also consider regularly hardening skin through the winter with high UVB low UVA sun bed tubes and ensure at all times your omega 6 intake matches or is only a little greater than your omega 3 intake. This will be easier if you look for grass fed beef, lamb, and avoid farm raised omega 6 rich fish like Tilapia.

There is a problem with any energetic exercise performed in strong sunlight. If you start sweating because Vitamin D is fat soluble and because sweat contains some body oils, it can bring vitamin D to the surface and as I've explained previously UVA degrades that vitamin D by turning it into supra sterols the body does not use. We find marathon runners, cyclists high performance athletes are almost always vitamin D deficient BECAUSE although the spend hours practicing their energetic sport outside in the sun, they are sweating out the Vitamin D and having it degraded as they run. They also wash some off with regular showering. Not sure what size boat you sail in but it is potentially the same for any, energetic sports person.

They did some work with Skateboarders in Hawaii and were surprised some of them had low vitamin D status, however one factor they failed to look at was Gatoraide or HFCS sweetened beverage intake. We know HFCS apart from being dangerous in other respects also induces vitamin D deficiency.

People who start NOW employing ALL the strategies I've outlined to restore their natural photo protection level should be able to measure a difference in just 12 weeks from now. But that would entail taking
2 of these 5000iu vitamin D3 daily with the largest fat containing meal of the day reduce to 1 x 5000iu when 25(OH)D = 60ng/ml

One of these high strength omega 3 capsules with each meal 3 x 750mg Omega 3 = more than 2 g of omega 3 daily.
but remember reducing omega 6 is AS if not MORE important as boosting O3.
one of these high absorption magnesium with each mealMagnesium is best absorbed in small amounts with food.

These are the essentials but do also check out the lycopene (tomato puree) and the other anti oxidants I mentioned in the link from post 6 in this thread.

My suggestions come from IHERB because their shipping to the UK is cheapest. $5 discount code WAB666. remember to ensure order value before shipping is below �18 or you suffer VAT + Post Office �8 handling charge.

US readers may find (depending on P&P) Vitacost or Amazon may be cheaper for equivalent brands/products. I haven't time to check.

Look up bloodroot + melanoma

Bloodroot (Sanguinaria canadensis L., Papaveraceae) Enhances Proliferation and Cytokine Production by Human Peripheral Blood Mononuclear Cells in an In Vitro Model Useful article here on Bloodroot.
It's not something I am familiar with so can't comment.
Id like to see more evidence before trying out with a melanoma. If I thought I had melanoma the last thing I would want to do was waste time on an untried herbal. However there is good reason to suspect it may be helpful in skin cancer.

Girlfriend, I'm with you. Lol

There's no way in hell I'd be out on the boat all day in a bathing suit (because it's summer & too hot to wear clothes) without smearing sunscreen on once I noticed my skin turning pink. I'm sorry, but for a few weeks out of the summer using sunscreen to avoid sunburn blisters & peeling sounds intelligent to me.

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Awww come on, If you ladies are my age or older (I'll be 53 soon) then you like me, have used make up and fancy soaps and fancy cleaners, and noxema on our faces since we were young young women. We have been taught, to religously wash our faces and do that beauty routine from an early age.... Lets get real... We are gonna blame the sun on the cancer growths on our faces when we keep putting cancer causing chemicals on our faces? That just dont make any sense to me! Keep reading, start with the labels on your makeup and skin cleansers. then start doing research on what these chemicals do to your body...Then read the ingredient label on your sunscreen and research those chemicals too. I know it seems hard to believe, but some women would rather have cancer then give up their beauty regime... Rosie posted a post once I believe in the old forum that talked about the concept of people actually washing away the body' oils that combine with the vitaminD from the sun in order to protect us more... Sure wish she was still on this board! If you are going to be out in the sun... get pure zinc oxide... its the best protection you can use.... granted, its not as attractive as the makeup/sunscreen, but it will protect you better without causing you cancer

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Ted Hutchinson, thanks for your post - unfortunately I can't "plan" for the Sydney or any other sail as it's a fact of life and for a few years it was almost every day -

Clearly, I have a lot of reading to do! And again, thanks for all the information

That's very true Just Me. Zinc oxide is fantastic for protection, but call me poofie, i couldn't slather that on at the shore. Lol It's not like I apply sunscreen everyday.. it's only when I'm going to be overexposed and don't want to suffer the consequences, which is a severe burn.

I came across an article recently (can't recall where at the moment) regarding how our daily shower spoils sun induced Vit D.

Thank you to Ted Hutchinson for all of the interesting info on this topic.

What about trying to keep your skin moist...like putting coconut oil or something similar...maybe a mix of aloe and coconut oil on your skin...to keep it moist in the sun....perhaps that could keep your skin from burning?

Marilyn,

I would definitely start with diet. If your diet is good and includes Omega 3s and antioxidants you have some protection there. Then if you take Vitamin D in the winter and your D level is good by springtime you have that protection as well. But either way, starting in the spring you ideally go out in the sun every day for 15 to 30 minutes, starting slowly if you are very sensitive until your skin turns pink, even if it's just 5 minutes. Some people just have sensitive skin, especially people with an upper north background such as Scandanavia, and if you do, then you just have to take extra care and supplement with D.

I go in the sun for about 30 minutes every day that I can exposing as much of my skin as I can, then after that I either get out of direct sun or wear a hat. If I go to the tropics I have to wear sunscreen so I use a natural one.

Cookie,

I try to take a shower before going in the sun so as not to undo the benefits by taking a shower after being in the sun.

Limitme,

I think the coconut oil would make some people burn if used initially because it encourages tanning but I don't know about adding aloe.