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Will the Obama stimulus plan ruin your health?


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But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective.

The goal is to reduce costs and �guide� your doctor�s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, �Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.� According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and �learn to operate less like solo practitioners.�

Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.

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Hospitals and doctors that are not �meaningful users� of the new system will face penalties.
�Meaningful user� isn�t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose �more stringent measures of meaningful use over time� (511, 518, 540-541)

What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment?

The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the �tough� decisions elected politicians won�t make.
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More on Obama's stimulus plan and your health.


Big Brother Health Care Provisions Slipped Into Economic Stimulus Bill

Big Brother Health Care Provisions Slipped Into Economic Stimulus Bill by Mike Adams the Health Ranger



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"But it gets even more interesting than that: Under the new provisions found in the bill, all U.S. doctors will now be stripped of autonomy and forced to follow the medical treatment guidelines dictated by the government.

This news should rock the medical world (once they truly understand it). It means doctors can no longer make their own decisions about patients' needs or treatment protocols.


From now on, all health care decisions will be centrally planned by a dictatorial, Big Brother health care authority in the federal government."
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Oh boy! I hate to hear this. It's been bad enough as it is. Now they are making it much worse. The medical establishment in this country is quickly becoming a dictatorship.
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Terrible news! Things are getting worse, not better.
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I agree things do seem to be getting worse. And unfortunately we seem to be losing more and more of our rights and freedom everyday. Especially when it comes to our health freedom.
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A good example of what happens when governments try to micromanage things like a health service is the UK National Health Dental Service.
A new contract they drew up limiting what procedures dentists could do was such a shambles that up to 75% of dentists refused to sign the contract and instead set up in private practice, virtually making it impossible for most people to have treatment under the NHS.

Is there anything to stop US doctors doing the same?

https://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts...-patients-apos-

Dont get me wrong, I think that an adequate health service should be provided by all civilised countries for ALL their citizens, but it should not be run by governments.

Heres another view from a British writer on what the US is in for under Obama, comparing him to the British Prime Minister Tony Blair and what he has done to Britain in his term of office.

Sorry, America, I'm the bearer of bad news - Telegraph
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I don't know if things are getting worse or not. How can you get worse from piss poor?

If you lead a life filled with natural foods you will avoid all these dictators and political health systems. Visit natropaths and homeopaths early in life. know how to detox. Exercise and practice meditation or some form of calming practices.

Do this and you will only need those guys for the most extreme injury or crisis... and in due course you will work your way away from them again and back into independence and restored health
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I agree with you completely. Even though I had cancer a few months ago, I'm beating it using natural means. And, I'm feeling great!

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I beat my cancer last year naturally, too, Gary. Not alone, though, the support team right here in this forum is phenominal and I could not have done it without them.
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Well done Judie. I was not aware of this forum when I was going through my cancer phase. I used MMS plus other supplements and nutrients I found out about in Bill Henderson's book, "Cancer Free".
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