I've posted this on another website, but since no one is replying over there, I thought I would bring the topic to this forum, seeing as how it seems to be a bit more active.

Ever since I was 11-12, I had pain urinating. In the beginning the pain occurred rarely, but it became more and more occurent, to the point it was happening pretty much every time I urinated.

Probably a few months after the pain started to appear, I went to the urologist. He had me urinate in a jug. I didn't have any signs of any problem according to the results, so they simply suggested I drink more water. The pain never went away, though.

A few years later, 2 or 3, I went to a kidney specialist, and he had me urinate in a jug for a week. The results showed that I had a high concentration of calcium in my urine. They had me take an X-Ray, and it indeed showed that I had a kidney stone. I believe the kidney specialist thought it was the second most common of the kidney stones, and that I was considerably young to actually have a kidney stone. They put a stent in me for a week or so, so they could reach the kidney stone. When they took the stent out, apparently they found that the kidney stone had passed on its own during the time I had the stent in me.

It's been a number months later, plenty of time for my area to heal, and yet there is still burning when I urinate. There was blood before I had surgery when I urinated, and good news is that it's gone, no more blood when I urinate. But the pain persists. I have been drinking a fair amount of water, and I know I don't have an urinary infection or a kidney stone.

I went a few months ago, and when I got checked back in and I told them that I still had pain, the only reason they could think of was that I don't drink enough for it to heal, but I have. They also could promise me that another kidney stone couldn't have formed in that time.

I'm in my teens, if that could possibly help diagnose my urinary track issue. The only possible problem I can come up with is that I take my baths in soapy water. My area is soaking in that water, and I guess that could be an issue, but I don't think that it would cause this sort of pain, this constantly. (every single time I urinate) The pain is at the tip of my penis. I've never had any sort of intercourse, so I know I don't have an STD or anything of the sort.

UPDATE: (Few months after previous post)
After surgery there was a time when there was not blood urinating, but the bleeding is starting to come back. The blood comes with the last few drops of urine. I've been only showering and the problem still occurs. I have a very strong bladder and during busy times (during the week) I hold it for many hours (up to 8), could this cause the bleeding? Also, I have no problem of possible conditions I might have, whether it be a rare condition or not, because it seems that my case is uncommon as is. Thanks for any help and suggestions you provide!

this is an unusual story.

Can you clarify for me... when you had pain before the surgery, where was the pain located? and was the pain only during urination?

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The pain is only during urination, at the tip of the penis. It's been a few months since surgery, and I might been getting another kidney stone or whatever it is that's causing this pain, because the pain has slowly been getting worse, just like it did the first time.

The pain is burning and can get pretty unbearable at times.

stickman 109 I would love to have a little more information and it would be great to be able to do a couple of tests on you. Do you have any back problems? Do you see a chiropractor because of alignment problems?
Since I don't have the answers to a whole lot of things let me just suggest a couple of thoughts. It sounds to me like you tend to be acidic. Are your eyes blue and do you have a whitish cast to the fibers? Does your urine have a strong odor?
Does your pulse tend to be rapid?
Of course it will take some time to get your response so let me suggest just a couple of things. First, hydrangia to keep stones from forming and corn silk to sooth the urinary tract. You might want to have your potassium checked and I would add some real cranberry juice to the diet.
That's all I can offer without knowing more. But here are a few more questions I would like to have answers to:
Do you tend to have weak knees or ankles?
Is there any incontenence?
Do you have a red tongue? do you have a dry tongue?
I only ask these questions to help determine if you tend to have an Overactive (hot) metabolism or a Deficient (dry), or Spastic (tense) metabolism. My best to you.

Okay, I'll try to answer these questions as best as I can. I don't really have any back problems, my back hurts sometimes (very slightly and not very often) since the surgery, but nothing serious or very noticeable. My urine does often have a strong odor. I don't have any incontinence. I do notice that sometimes my last few drops of urine, if not blood, tend to be very thick. I don't know how else to explain it. Thanks so much for the help. May I ask your occupation?

I also seem to have acid reflux disease, although it's never been officially tested. Not sure if this has any relevance or not.

Hi stickman109, welcome to the forum. I'm sorry to hear that you're having such ongoing pain. I have no expertise in this area, but I have known someone with bladder cancer, who had similar symptoms. I'm not trying to alarm you, but I wondered if you were checked by the doctor for this. If it were me, I'd want to know, if for anything, just to remove it from possibility.

Also, being dehydrated might cause dark urine with strong odor. I know you said you were drinking a good amount of water during the kidney stone episode, but have you continued that practice? I have to say too, that holding in your urine for long periods of time, like 8 hours, isn't a very good idea. You should relieve yourself when you feel the need to. If you can hold off for 8 hours, I wonder if you were drinking enough fluids.

Best wishes to you, I hope some of the folks here can help you with your condition. If I see anything that may be beneficial, I'll post it.

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Stickman 109 To answer the question, "May I ask your occupation". My main occupation is not really relevant here but I am a pastor and have been in the Christian ministry for over 30 years. However, my second occupation is as a natural health consultant.
From what you've said thus far it sounds like you should use the cornsilk, cranberry juice (the real stuff), watermelon juice and even the seeds can be helpful. Again I would have your potassium level checked. Nettles, leaf or root would also be helpful. Goldenrod if you're not allergic to it.
You didn't answer about the eye color. I was wondering if you have an acidic constitution. I can tell alot about a person by his or her eyes. Not necessarily acute situations but certainly constitutional matters.
Since you've had this problem since your youth I rather think it's a constitutional condition rather than something like cancer (although I'm not telling you to not get checked).
Try this as well. For a couple of weeks try drinking some lemon water, a couple of glasses at least per day and see if anything changes. If you are a meat eater, try to cut back, also cut back on grain consumption. Both of these make the body acidic and it has to be dumped somewhere.
I hope this helps.

Thanks for your concerns. My eye color is hazel-green on the outside and brown around the pupil area, so it's not blue. I have been cutting back on the meat, and been drinking lemon juice, because that is actually what my doctor told me to do also. My urine is almost always a light color.

I've also been suggested to drink cranberry juice, and I do try to. I don't drink it too often though, because the sugar levels are very high in that juice.

My doctor also told me to avoid a large amount of salt in take and supliment it for potassium, since they taste very similarly.

My father used to have these potassium cubes (like sugar cubes except potassium), and he actually had enough of them for his body to react and become allergic to potassium... he can't really even eat a banana without breaking out in hives. This all happened before my birth, so maybe he passed on a mutation or something?

I've always had an extremely strong bladder.

I would still recommend the cornsilk as it will help sooth. I also think perhaps some dandelion root for two reasons: 1. It can help with the urine problem and 2. It is a blood cleanser which will help your liver. In iridology when there is a dominant brown color around the pupils it can be an indication of an imbalance in the liver, which, of course, aids in digestion.

As for the acid reflux a good food enzyme will be helpful. My guess is that most of your problems are a result of your diet which is probably too acidic.

Have a great day and I hope you get some relief.

I agree wiith trying to alkalinize somewhat as well as definitely cutting back on meat and protein. Too much protein causes calcium to be leached from the bones and you urinate it out. Also, take a magnesium supplement daily for 2-3 weeks, see if this helps.

Stickman, Ocean Spray Cranberry Juice is chock full of sugar. You might try a
different brand. Also, I buy Cranberry Juice Concentrate at my health food
store - natural sugar only. Ocean Spray adds sugar or sweetners to all of
their juices. I used to buy a Northland brand. A large plastic bottle - very
tasty and only natural sugar.

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Knudsen's brand, Just Cranberry is also unsweetened.

You know. I can't help but thinking that if you only had pain in the penis, and only upon urination before the surgery and they did a stent, and all that happened I think you got taken for a ride. But of course medical doctors do not know how to break kidney stones except by sonic waves which is what they should have done on you, not a surgery. I would find a different doctor.

Kidney stones have severe pain in the kidneys and or in the tube that leads from the kidney to the bladder as they move. Now there can be pain in the penis as the stone is passed there but it is not a constant everyday pain but so this just does not sound like a kidney stone to me and believe me, I've been around a lot of kidney stones. They may have found a stone in your kidney but it was not the cause of your pain in the penis.

If I were you I would get tested for chlammyidia and rule that out. You could also have a yeast infection in the urethra. I know you say that you couldn't possibly have an STD but check anyway and see if they find some kind of infection. It really sounds like some kind of infection.

Drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. Stay away from soda pop. You may want to look into MMS and try a three week course of that as it is known to get rid of many subclinical infections. But get tested before you do mms so you know what you are up against and just to see if they can find anything. If they can't do the mms anyway.

The only other thing I can think of is you have some other kind of obstruction, but still that likely would not account for the thick urine with odor, that says infection to me, and it could be a sub-clinical infection... But if you can collect some of that thick urine and take it to the doc it might give you a further clue... go to the doc and get a steril collection cup to do this with.

If you get tested and they can't find anything and you do the mms for three weeks, and things are not improved you better demand further work up.

The reflux at your age is pretty unusual too but most likely caused by a microbe in your gut. MMS will take care of that if that is the cause. If it continues after MMS look into the possiblility of a hiatial hernia, which you are still young for but its not impossible. They usually only bother people when they get older.

If it is not a hiatial hernia you may be low on digestive enzymes or Hydrochloric acid, but still you are pretty darn young for that... that is why I think you should seek out other causes first.

And I fully agree with the cornsilk.

I've been tested for infections at least 5 times...

The urine odor is fairly rare, and the urine is thick really only sometimes. The only constant symptom I have is the pain. Even the blood isn't every time.

I haven't been in any relationship that would even close to get me an STD.

My doctor says I can't get any more CAT scans to see if I have kidney stones, because it would put me at risk for radiation poisoning, and being at this young of an age makes it even more dangerous.

I really appreciate everything you guys (and gals) have said to help me. I'll definitely trying that cornsilk in the form of a tea.

To be honest, I have no idea what to think. I mean, I already urinated in so many containers... I also had to do that thing where I keep a container in the fridge and urinate in it for a week.

I always had a suspicion that the kidney stone hadn't come out/isn't there.

I've pretty much gone to every doctor remotely related to urology in my area. I've also had my privates checked way too many times to call it privates any more.

Doctors are absolutley clueless in diagnosing yeast in a male. If you have ever taken antibiotics you are at risk for yeast. Sometimes it harbors in the urethra. If there is yeast in the bladder that may account for the thick urine.

Try going to them and specifically asking them to check for urethral yeast infection. They are likely to say that if men get a yeast infection they catch it from woman, but In my opinion that is not true. Yeast infection is an overgrowth caused from the use of antibiotics.

Meanwhile look into mms and consider doing 3 weeks of mms therapy.

There are a number of micoplasma infections around these days and variants of them that the doctors are clueless on. Again the answer to those may be mms, possibly colloidal silver.