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Old 08-23-2008, 11:37 PM
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Those who remember Leppert will recall that she does "Home Schooling".
Leppert did register here but doesn't have time to post, as she used to.

She is looking for ideas about how to help a 17 year old female, who had a virus infection and was then unable to cope with school. Concentration is poor.
Leppert asks us for ideas to help this girl. She is thinking of Fish oil, Omega 3 and gingko. What else would anyone suggest?
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I wonder if the virus is still there.

Anyway, something to try would be oral chelation. What comes to mind is that I've read that virus is drawn to mercury; maybe other metals too. Don't trust this info. It is something I read a long time ago; so such info can become distorted. Maybe others can expound upon it.

Cilantro come to mind. I understand it is able to cross into the brain and bind to mercury. I'm sure there are other easier products to use. Check Swanson's for metal detox.

*edit* N-Acetyl-Cysteine could be important too.

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Thanks jfh. I will wait a day or two, then send replies to Leppert.
Yes, I remember the cilantro effect. The name was not familiar to me so I had to look it up. We know it as coriander, I think.

There was another amino acid, linked with NAC. but I don't know much about it. Do you know ALC Acetyl L carnitine?
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Xania,

I recently gave a bottle of MMS that ended in the hands of a young woman who had suffered for a long time from 2 strains of mono. Her body could not overcome it and it gave symptoms akin to chronic fatigue and fibromyalgia.

Since MMS she is quite well and has resumed normal activity. It only took a couple of weeks but she started to feel better within days. MMS is also reported to chelate heavy metals.

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L-carnatine may be helpful for the brain fog.

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Some studies have shown that L-acetylcarnitine (LAC), a form of L-carnitine that readily enters the brain, may delay the progression of Alzheimer's disease, relieve depression related to senility and other forms of dementia, and improve memory in the elderly.
Cilantro is the same thing as coriander. In Texas, USA, we call it Mexican parsley. I don't even know if it is related to parsley at all. Just cultural lingo I guess.
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I would highly recommend the rice bran oil... I have told ya'll how much difference I noticed in my charges when I added rice bran oil to their regime.. its awesome brain food
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Thanks Just me. I had completely forgotten it.
Just used some in cooking, too!.
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Xania,

When you mentioned "home schooling", it brought to mind an option that involves learning - rather than adding another nutritional supplement.

Perhaps adding some guided-imagery or meditation, to her daily study, may help her concentrate better. Meditation's effect on concentration is well-documented. And, there are specific guided-imagery CDs that focus on concentration and academic performance.

Here's one example of such a program:

https://www.healthjourneys.com/Produc...il.aspx?id=363

I'm sure there are many other similar options.
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Thanks, Harry. I will make sure that leppert sees this.
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Jim, your idea about mercury is truly a good one and logical. Cancer feeds on iron so it makes sense. Cilantro is a specific mercury chelator. Jon Barron has a product that he sells for this purpose. It is a bit pricy to start out and I may have a better option worth trying with her.

About 12-13 years ago my hubby had no pulse in his right ankle and the foot was numb-plus a few plumbing symptoms...Our Dr put him through 30 chelation therapies for his circulation and it really worked for everything. My hubby refused to do any follow up sessions so I started him on Dr. Donsbach's oral chelation product, Orachel. It has worked well. What do you guys think? I'd cut her dose in half because she is tiny though.

The virus is probably still lurking, waiting for her system to get stressed again. Arrowwind, what is MMS? How expensive?

When I had my disabling fall 20 years ago down 26 steps I landed on my head. Nobody knew much about head trauma then so I got no help at all from the medical profession, other than some cranial therapy-which was a first step. It has taken all these years to get my mind back (short term memory problems, lack of concentration, confusion) so I have some ideas of things that really helped me. The Dr who did the cranial work sent me to learn TM for help with the pain. Couldn't take the pain meds-which of course didn't touch the pain for me either. Mediation really helps one balance and accept; didn't take the pain away but I could deal with it. Yes, that would be a useful tool for my student. When I meditate now I usually fall asleep...three hours total PT a day and therapy 3X a week seems to do that to me. I'll try to keep awake to finish this...grin...

I've been taking cod liver oil for many years as well as Natures Way gingko and I really think it has helped. I may give my student a smaller dose of the cod liver oil and fill in with the DHA portion of the Omega 3 using Neuromins. I think she will need more of the concentrated DHA. It apparently comes from rice bran oil. I wonder though about giving a teenager gingko. Maybe a small dose to see?

I started taking the L-carnitine for my BP just a few years ago and maybe that has helped my concentration and focus too. My improvement has been gradual. I'll keep it in my list of options. I also take a large dose of folic acid morning and night with a B50 2X a day. I really think all these Bs have helped.

My plan too is to take her to a behavioral optomitrist to check her vision. It was really critical for my son and also my nephew. Made a huge difference in their ability to concentrate and study. Vision therapy is a pain and time consuming but worth every minute.

Harry, we have some CDs I ordered through mercola.com that are supposed to help the mind. Unfortunately my little CD player died and they have gathered dust. I wonder if they might also be a good idea.

Also something else more action oriented is a Flashcard program where the student does basic math and has to keep doing it faster to beat their last time. Even the older children loved it. It got so they didn't have to think-the basic math was automatic. I thought that would also be good mind exercise. Help her with her math too. She is only on Saxon 6/7 so we have a long way to go.

Guys your ideas have been great. Please comment on what I've been thinking of doing and if you can think of other things please let me know. I won't be checking this daily so If Jo or Xania can alert me I'd appreciate it. We will be leaving Wed morning to visit our son in Minneapolis so will be incommunicado for a couple weeks.

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Nutrients are fine but it seems to me that they would only cure the problem if she is in a nutrient deficient state. Could a virus bring this on? Possibly.

Could the virus still be there? If she attained the problem during an illness or as the result of an illness I would still be looking at that.

You may want to look at MMS or its milder form in this product:
https://www.nzymes.com/guidelines-Ox-E-Drops.htm

I would use the MMS but some people are hesitant to give it to children hence they turn to the above, an old, tested and true precursor to mms. Either way the oxy drops are more palatable.

If it were my child and mms did not help within a week or two we would be heading out to the homeoapth.

BTW, I've been communicating with a woman who has an autistic child who has been using mms for her young one, under 5 years old. In just a couple of months he is greatly improved and seems to be behaving just about normal now. She is thrilled.
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Those who remember Leppert will recall that she does "Home Schooling".
Leppert did register here but doesn't have time to post, as she used to.

She is looking for ideas about how to help a 17 year old female, who had a virus infection and was then unable to cope with school. Concentration is poor.
Leppert asks us for ideas to help this girl. She is thinking of Fish oil, Omega 3 and gingko. What else would anyone suggest?
I can relate... I just found this product... GOTU KOLA... and it is helping me to get some of my mental functioning going again.
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