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I'm new to Nat Med Talk. I've been reading many of the posts here which have greatly increased my awareness of my many health concerns. I really need help after a severe parasite infestation. I've been taking MMS for almost two months. Up to 10 drops 3 times a day. Now I need to address my many nutritional needs, and barely know where to start. I would greatly appreciate any suggestions. My health slowly deteriorated until I was unable to work anymore. I can barely believe that I survived and am forever grateful also, to Jim Humble, for saving my life. Looking forward to these forums....
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Hi ljea,

So glad to see you here! I hope we can be of some help to you.

Some kinds of parasites literally suck everything out of you and malnutrition is not uncommon, depending on what kind you have had and how severe the case was. Since it caused to to be so weak you could not work I assume it was pretty bad.

I talked to a woman who had round worms and she said that it caused her to eat incessantly and she was skinny as a rail. After she got rid of them her weight stablilized to a normal range for her. But others can have different signs of malnutrion, like seeming to be overweight, skin disorders, poor dentition, weak hair, nails, dry skin, etc. Either way parasites can cause imbalance in the metabolism in different ways.

I think over time, after they are gone, and you move away from cravings which were likely feeding them their favorite things, and move into a good diet regimen you will start to rebuild.

Just for starters I would recommend a good B vitamin supplemnt and a probiotic to start to restore your gut. And a daily green drink like this to provide lots of trace minerals and antioxidants. This greens 8000 is a reasonably priced one and I like the berry flavor the best. https://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=greens+8000 but there are other good ones there too. From the same website a scoop of Jarrow whey mixed with it will provide not only protien but a boost to your glutiothione levels. https://www.iherb.com/Search?kw=jarrow+whey If you can do two of these shakes a day you will benefit greatly.


Remember, as long as you feel the need to take MMS you have to stay away from Vitamin C supplements and a lot of strong antioxidants. When you are confident that they are gone then you can move in that direction. Such supplements can neutralize the effects of MMS.

Do you know what blood type you are?

It would also help us to help you if we knew more about any discomforts or symptoms that this has caused. I would think that as the parasites are gone over time you will start to feel more normal but what ever problems remain may be able to be treated nutritionally.

If you had blood work done recently and some of it was abnormal that gives us a window to the the inside also so let us know about unusual results there.

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Hi Arrow,
Thank you for your educated suggestions. I am grateful. I am definitely malnourished. When I had the parasites I had terrible carb cravings. It was not unusual for me to eat a whole box of cereal in one night, with lots of sugar. I never understood why I just had to have it. Fruit held no appeal to me. Now that the parasites are gone, I crave fruits and vegetables and have lost 20 pounds. I had lost half of my hair, it fell out by the handfuls every day. Now it is not. I could not concentrate, and my short term memory was very poor. All these things straightened out for me right away. Within two weeks of using Miracle Mineral Solution and killing the adult parasites.
I understand the B-vitamins and probiotics. The B's should help with stamina, I am really weak. Probiotics should restore healthy flora and create better digestion. I read about the green drink and wondered. Thank you for showing me where and how to get it. It makes sense I would need protein, but I did not think of it. I will go to the websites you suggested.
Yes, I'm careful not to use vitamin C while using MMS. I am still at only 8-9 drops three times a day. So I know you were right about my still having microbial "residue" from killing the parasites. I will continue MMS until I get to 15 drops three times a day (per Jim Humble.)

My doctors did send my blood to the Mayo Clinic. They told me last Fall I had Rheumatoid Arthritis. I was not satisfied with that answer. That little voice inside me said, "Ok, but what causes rheumatoid arthritis? Surely something." Thus my internet research where I found one article (out of many) that linked parasites to the arthritis. This is it. That every condition has a cause, and doctors only treat the symtoms. That is how my condition got so bad that it almost killed me. The issue is that serious.
Yes, I am beginning to feel normal again. I do feel my body crying out for nutrition. Thank you Arrow for pointing me in the right direction. I'll keep you posted, and will check back here in case you think of anything else to tell me.
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Well, I was at 13 drops MMS three times a day with no nausea, then saw the tapeworm segments in my stool again. I was stunned. They "went away" for a few weeks and as I ramped up the dose of MMS I thought I might be getting near the end. Not so. I remembered that parasites travel through the blood stream and all along have worried about what hasn't come out yet. I know I've been heavily infested, and that if I could see 25 parasites come out of me over 3 weeks time, there had to be more I could not see. So, I did enemas of MMS again. 10 drops in 5 cups warm water, and I drank 14 drops three times for two days. Out comes one large parasite each next day. I believe they were hiding out somewhere in my body and moved to the intestines after the other larger ones were killed. I still had some inflammation in my hands and knew it was coming from something, even though I'm feeling so much better. I read they grow very rapidly. I have been at this diligently for 3 months. I thought it would be over by now. I feel like I'm in a war battle. My spirit knows this as I am dreaming about war battles.
Meantime I am taking a good liquid multi-vitamin, B-complex, probiotics, fiber, protein shake, Vit.D, flaxseed oil, and MSM. I just realized I should be posting this in the MMS forum, please forgive me, I will do so hereafter. Thank you.
Thank you all for allowing me to vent. I do mean to win the war.
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Oh, what I believe now, is I've been so infested and the parasites have had free reign for so many years, that they're stronger than the average toxin. That I'd better stick with the regular enemas so as not to let them over take me again. That getting the MMS into the plasma of the blood is essential in over taking them. I think when they're that many and that large, one must do both protocols, enema and oral MMS. (I am still learning)

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I just realized I should post this on the MMS forum. Please forgive me, I will do so here after. Thank you. Ljea
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I am also very new to this forum but not new with seeking out natural healing. One of the greatest things you can do is reestablish the good bacteria in your gut which is the immune sysytem. I have had great success with dr. ohhiras probiotics. I like the pro formula best in the blue box. I have a son who survived leukemia and i have had health challenges to numerous to list. But am making great breakthroughs!!! I just started the mms and I am truly greatful for the product myself. I couldnt get rid of the parasites with anything else. Wishing you vibrant health which is a gift from God.
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Hi Laurie,

I just got to the library and I'm checking in here first. Haven't done any research yet but I've been thinking about what has happened.

My first thought is that these guys are slipping though the treatment protocol you have set up. And you are likely right to return to doing the enemas but I was thinking that perhaps you need to take more oral dosages too.

Can you remember what dosage you were at when you started seeing dead parasites? It might be worth a try to return to that dosage but take it 5 or 6 times a day. I would also be prepared to take a dose in the middle of the night. Set things up so you don't have to fumble around in your sleep too much. Believe me, you wont be the first person to get up in the middle of the night to take a dose.

If I find any helpful information I will get back to you.
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According to conventional medicine tapeworm is pretty easy to cure and this site tells what medicine to use. Cure is claimed if symptoms are gone for 4 months.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphyllobothrium

This site talks about their cyst form and I have to wonder if the mms actually gets them in this stage. And apparently cysts can lodge most anywhere although they like the gut the best, but the brain is a spot they are most noted for going to. In lyme disease mms apparently cannot get through the cyst stage so mms has not been effective in curing lyme. I have no idea of the nature of the cyst with tapeworm and no reading material describes it but it does state that it is very good at hiding from the immune system.. It seems to me that these cysts may be hiding in your joints or soft tissues, (arthritic symtoms) as lyme does.

https://www.healthinplainenglish.com/...ases/tapeworm/

It makes me wonder if they would be vulnerable to an strong enzyme product in the same way that a lyme cyst is (enzymes dissolve the lyme cyste) but there really is no way to know and this is really just a shot in the dark.

Quite frankly, if it were me, I would go to the doctor and take their medicine. You have been treating this for 3 months now and still they are not gone and the weak link in the protocol is uncertain, and I would continue with mms for a while until I felt confident that all was gone. If you do take a conventional medicine for it stop the mms for a day or two.... just my feeling. I still am uncertain that mms will not oxidize some medicines and I will remain so until I see studies that show otherwise.

Also when at the doctor ask them to check your B12 level. They say it can get quite low with parasites and if it is the best way to supplement is with injection, one a day if really bad for a week or two, or one a week for a couple of months if low but not extremely critical. It could improve your energy level.
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Thanks you guys. I was thinking all the same things as you. Trying to create a nutritional battleground. (so to speak) Staying away from foods that feed parasites. Keeping my spirits up. I do think I should keep up with the enemas. Did so again yesterday. (ten drops) while taking MMS orally 15 drops three times a day. This is not making me nauseous, and I don't think it can hurt. Actually, I had one more largish tapeworm come out this am with no visible tapeworm segments in stool. I am gratefully taking all your advice. I had the doctor check my vitamin levels two weeks ago...amazingly all normal. (I had cysts around my uterus a few years ago and had them removed via hystercectomy. Biopsy said no cancer, thank goodness.) I know my memory and concentration was nill before MMS, so parasites affect the brain for sure. Whether I have cysts anywhere else I may never know. (I suspect...probably. Thus the MMS could be tackling that as well.) I will relay this all to my Doctor. Maybe yes to medicine??? Yes to the enzymes! Will look into that further. I will keep this up with a furvor. I reached 15 drops three times yesterday...Will do four or five times (one in the middle of the night) to keep a steady dose going orally, and continue the enemas. I do feel I'm closing in on the end but I know it will still be a while. You just can't be as infested as I've been and not realize you're/I'm a severe case. Thank you all for every word you have said to me. Ljea
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