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Default Jim Humble's New Web Page

https://www.jimhumblemms.com/ This is suppose to be the address to Jim Humbles new website. I have heard through the grapevine that they had a lot of technical problems with it so it redirects to this page that sells an approved MMS product from a company that Jim has no financial interest in. Until they get the site back up you need to go to the old site for MMS information. There are a couple of other sites that sell Jims approved products and I will post them when I come upon them again. Most people who sell mms send 10% to Jim's malaria project.

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Default Jim's video.. zzzzzzzz

I just watched the video... Quick.. get Jim Humble a CUP OF COFFEE!!!

This guy needs some coffeee badddd!!!

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omg.. all his new documents/explanation are more VIDEOS!!!

.. oh nooooooooooo

(where is MY cup of coffee? )
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omg.. all his new documents/explanation are more VIDEOS!!!

.. oh nooooooooooo

(where is MY cup of coffee? )
As well as all the buffering, which took more time than the content!
Anyway, I don't think coffee is enough!
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Jim Humble needs someone else to do his videos (so does Mercola)

I wonder if William Shatner is available?
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Well, at least it is very clear that he is not a business man, out for a profit. I'm not complaining! If I make up my batch of MMS, I might send a bottle to him for verification - no, no point in that. I don't sell it from a website!
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Hmmm, that would be a hard choice, Humble or Shatner. Do you think one could be better than another?
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Hmmm, that would be a hard choice, Humble or Shatner. Do you think one could be better than another?



hey, what are you saying about my guy, Shatner!!! I mean, come on... can Jim Humble sing?

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Certainly not as well as Shatner. I sometimes wonder about Shatner. Were are perceptions different when younger or was he always that bad and it was me who changed. Unlike Sean Connery, he did not ripen with age AT ALL.
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Certainly not as well as Shatner. I sometimes wonder about Shatner. Were are perceptions different when younger or was he always that bad and it was me who changed. Unlike Sean Connery, he did not ripen with age AT ALL.
Some of us age better than others. i think perhaps Shatner looks like overrripened a bit.

but, as sexy as Sean Connery is (and I thought he was hot hot hot when I was younger and he was the Bond character).. I would rather spend an evening with Shatner than Sean. Sean seems quite the male chauvinist.

but.. what do I know?

there are a lot of actors that I feel that way about. I like a character they play very well, and if the character was real, I would like to meet "that character". but.. I don't know if I would want to meet the actor!! when I read about some of these actors, I think what a putz!

but, Shatner, I think I would like him better in person (than in some of the roles he's been in.. HAHAHA). I think he has a good sense of humor, a sense of playfulness. Doesn't take himself too seriously. maybe that's what I like.

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Default Dangers of Chlorinated Water

i strongly suggest that anyone
that is interested in sodium
chlorite (MMS) read this - i
ran across it in my own
research. chlorinated water
is a #1 cause of alimentary
tract cancers and heart/artery
disease.

https://www.orthomolecular.org/librar...n02-p089.shtml
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My understanding is that sodium chlorite is not the same as chlorine dioxide, which is what you ingest when you take mms.

MMS has a reputation for curing melanoma, one of the things your article suggests is caused by chlorine.

DCA, a product that is having a good level of success in shrinking tumors and studies are underway at the University of Alberta in Canada, is a product that is very similar in MMS chemically.

There is a big difference between chlorine and chlorine dioxide.
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https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts160.html

Studies in rats have shown that exposure of pregnant animals to chlorine dioxide or exposure of pups shortly after birth may cause delays in the development of the brain.

https://www.epa.gov/safewater/mdbp/pdf/alter/chapt_4.pdf

It has also been shown that chlorine dioxide reacts with free fatty acids (Ghandbari et al., 1983).

chlorine dioxide reacts readily with amino acids cysteine, tryptophan, and tyrosine ...

Acid-Chlorite Solution - Chlorine dioxide can be generated by direct-acidification generators in acidification of sodium chlorite solution. Several stoichiometric reactions have been reported for such processes (Gordon et al., 1972). When chlorine dioxide is generated in this way, hydrochloric acid is generally preferred.

Chlorine dioxide generators are operated to obtain the maximum production (yield) of chlorine dioxide, while minimizing free chlorine or other residual oxidant formation. The specified yield for chlorine dioxide generators is typically greater than 95 percent.

[so, even for commericial generators, 5% of the reaction produces free chlorine and other by-products - this link also describes the dynamic complexity of chlorine dioxide reactions]

[in order for CLO2 to be effective against most pathogens, you need to build up a concentration of several mg/L of ClO2 in your body ...]

Chlorite and chlorate are produced in varying ratios as endproducts during chlorine dioxide treatment and subsequent degradation.

Chlorine dioxide reacts with the soluble forms of iron and manganese to forms precipitates that can be removed through sedimentation and filtration.

At this time, it is unclear whether the primary mode of inactivation for chlorine dioxide lies in the peripheral structures or nucleic acids.

The application of chlorine dioxide does not produce THMs and produces only a small amount of total organic halide (TOX) (Werdehoff and Singer, 1987).

chlorine dioxide concentrations exceeding 0.4 to 0.5 mg/L contribute to taste and odor problems (AWWA, 1990).

[so, if you had several mg/L of ClO2 in your body liquids, the dose to kill most pathogens, your body fluids would be fairly odorous with the smell of chlorine]

Singer (1992) noted that the formation of non-halogenated organic byproducts of chlorine dioxide has not been adequately researched ... [but] produces a small amount of organic halides (Werdehoff and Singer, 1987).

https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts160.html

Chlorine dioxide is a gas that does not occur naturally in the environment.

[often, i see this listed as a "natural supplement", and it is neither natural, nor a supplement].

Chlorite is formed when chlorine dioxide reacts with water.

When added to water, chlorine dioxide forms chlorite ion, which is also a very reactive chemical.

Chlorine dioxide is a very reactive compound and breaks down quickly in the environment.

Both chlorine dioxide and chlorite react quickly in water or moist body tissues. Eating or drinking large amounts of chlorite salts may cause irritation in the mouth, esophagus, or stomach.

There are no studies on cancer in humans exposed to chlorine dioxide or chlorite.
Based on inadequate information in humans and in animals, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC) and the EPA have determined that chlorine dioxide and sodium chlorite are not classifiable as to human carcinogenicity.

Studies in rats have shown that exposure of pregnant animals to chlorine dioxide or exposure of pups shortly after birth may cause delays in the development of the brain.

[the chloride ion was 80% of the ClO2 metabolites, and chlorite 20% - not "salt" as claimed].

Neonatal jaundice occurred more frequently in infants whose mothers resided in the area where surface water was disinfected with chlorine dioxide, when compared with infants with mothers using nondisinfected well water. Infants born to mothers residing in areas where surface water was disinfected had smaller cranial circumference. In addition, these infants had a smaller body length and lower birthweight.

Meggs et al. (1996) examined 13 individuals (1 man and 12 women) 5 years after they were occupationally exposed to chlorine dioxide from a leak in a water purification system pipe. The long-term effects of the accident included development of sensitivity to respiratory irritants (13 subjects), disability with loss of employment (11 subjects), and chronic fatigue (11 subjects). Nasal abnormalities (including injection telangectasia, paleness, cobblestoning, edema, and thick mucus) were found in all 13 individuals. Nasal biopsies taken from the subjects revealed chronic inflammation with lymphocytes and plasma cells present within the lamina propria in 11 of the 13 subjects; the inflammation was graded as mild in 2 subjects, moderate in 8 subjects, and severe in 1 subject. Nasal biopsies from three control subjects showed chronic inflammation in one subject.

males exposed to 50 mg/L and in females exposed to 25 mg/L: Absolute liver weights were decreased in males, and absolute spleen weights were decreased in females.

Serum lactate dehydrogenase and apartate aminotransferase levels were decreased and serum creatinine levels were increased in the males ... A significant increase in incidence of nasal lesions (goblet cell hyperplasia and inflammation of nasal turbinates) was found and the study authors postulated that these lesions were likely caused by inhalation of chlorine dioxide vapors at the drinking water sipper tube or from off-gassing of the vapors after drinking rather than ingestion of the drinking water.

Abdel-Rahman et al. (1984b) exposed groups of four male Sprague-Dawley rats to 0, 1, 10, 100, an 1000 mg/L chlorine dioxide drinking water 20 hours/day for 11 months: A number of statistically significant hematologic alterations were observed; however, the magnitude of the alterations *** does not appear to be dose related *** :

Osmotic fragility was decreased ...
Erythrocyte counts were decreased ...
Reduced hematocrit and hemoglobin levels were observed in all groups ...
hematocrit levels were significantly increased ...
Mean corpuscular hemoglobin concentrations were increased ...
Blood glutathione levels were significantly reduced ...
DNA synthesis (assessed using H-thymidine incorporation) was significantly reduced in the kidneys ...
decreased in the testes ...
increased in the intestinal mucosa ...

The lack of a consistent relationship between dose and hematologic alterations and the small number of animals (four males/group) confound interpretation of the study.

AND THERE IS MUCH MORE TO READ ...

my basic opinion is that it probably doesn't hurt to use it for a short while, but it probably DOES do a lot of bad things if used chronically.
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I have used MMS every day since September 2007. I am thrilled to report that I can now breath like a normal person. For nearly 60 years, I have not been able to do so. Fungus overload. I'm convinced that the fungus is not obliterated; so I will continue a daily dose of 6 or more drops. I never thought I would get this far. 7 months is worth it.

First thing it did was to clear up external fungus problems; even though I was only using it internally. Toenail fungus was the first to go. Then jock itch. Also, solar keratosis, not a fungus, cleared. It just dried up and flaked off and did not return.

Next, it wiped out the fungi in the bloodstream, where MMS does most of its work. And why not? Chlorine dioxide is used in municipal water systems to destroy pathogens. It should have not problem in my blood system.

It continue to fine tune my intestines, where the fungus starts.

So, my point is that the very minor risk, if any at all, is worth the reward.

The amount of chlorine dioxide, in the MMS protocol is way minor in contrast to the laboratory studies. It is sodium chlorite in its beginning. This is diluted to 28% in distilled water; which is diluted further by adding a half cup of water or juice. By the time it is ingested, the chlorine dioxide is less that 1 ppm. Many hundreds of people have been using sodium chlorite, which is converted to chlorine dioxide, for many years with no problem. They have been using it in a product, called Stabilized Oxygen.

I will always want chlorine dioxide on my side at any outbreak of flu or pandemic.
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Thanks for that news, jfh.
It's wonderful that MMS has benefited you so much.
As you say, it so very dilute by the time gets to your blood stream, that any harmful effects noted with stronger solutions is not relevant.
Congratulations on finding something so helpful to you, and for letting us know about.
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