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Protein blocks calcium absorption. So keep away from each other, or supplement with mineral tablet at different time.
The biggest factor for protein absorption is sufficient stomach acid. This is required for the pepsin enzyme to work properly.
The average person can utilize only 3 ounces or 85 grams of protein per day. The rest is waste and will most likely be broken down into ammonia.
This doesn't mean that the protein has to be meat. And remember that we do require protein. There is a need for essential amino acids. "Essential" means that we do not create them within our bodies.
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01-08-2011, 08:25 AM
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Jim, does that 3 oz or 85 grams mean protein from all sources?
Or just from meat?
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01-08-2011, 08:54 AM
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Are you eating enough protein?
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A healthy diet provides the right balance of carbohydrate, fat, and protein to reduce risks for chronic diseases, and they are obtained from a variety of foods that are available, affordable, and enjoyable.
Find the right amount of protein recommended for your diet.
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01-09-2011, 05:16 AM
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Jim, does that 3 oz or 85 grams mean protein from all sources?
Or just from meat?
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That's from all sources, meat, soy, rice, ...
Nothing wrong with protein. As we age, we don't produce enzymes very well. Nor do we produce stomach acid very well. Someday you should all try digestive bitters. Really. Only a small amount is necessary. If you want to help the over 2000 methylations of the body, take a TMG tablet prior to meals too. That will help with the stomach acid problem.
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01-09-2011, 07:41 AM
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. Someday you should all try digestive bitters. Really. Only a small amount is necessary. If you want to help the over 2000 methylations of the body, take a TMG tablet prior to meals too.
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Which digestive bitter do you recommend? Is TMG the brand name, or description?
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01-09-2011, 11:37 AM
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Great calculator. Guess I don't need so much protein. Less than the average person. 77 grams. But what does need have to do with it after all?
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01-10-2011, 01:06 AM
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I don't know any Vegans or Vegetarians personally but the ones on Care2 seem to do it because of the
killing of animals reason. They substitute lots of soy - Yuck!
I doubt I'd ever give up meat completely. Like today, I'm making a huge pot of Chile w/1 lb each of organic beef & pork.
Another is navy bean soup w/ham bones & ham.
Even Jesus supposedly fed the masses w/Fish which says to me it's okay to eat animals for food.
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01-10-2011, 01:08 AM
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In the US, there are 5 reasons
19 yr olds trying to act cool.
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A compassionate heart or trying to be cool, I'm sure the animals are grateful either way...
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01-10-2011, 01:09 AM
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Protein is a myth. The average american who eats meat gets 10 times what they need. Even US vegetarians get more than enough.
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I would certainly agree with that....
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01-10-2011, 01:15 AM
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One of my favorite winter meals is Beef Stew. Can you imagine Soy Stew?
Even if only using a smaller amount of beef it's the flavor that counts.
Lots of carrots, celery, onions, garlic, potatoes & a can of peas.
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You have your opinion, I have mine. There'd be no point in debating it as it would only cause antagonism. Besides, it is an issue of consciousness.
But I do wonder, as much as you like meat, do you have it in you to kill the animal yourself? I suspect not, you seem, a good-hearted person. Though you have no qualms about getting someone else to do it for you...Something to think about perhaps.
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01-10-2011, 01:18 AM
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I go away for a couple of days and the thread seems to have wandered!
Back on theme...
A visit to a slaughterhouse
https://www.dragonfly99.net/slaughter.html
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01-10-2011, 05:36 AM
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Something usually dies, when we eat. About the only exception I can think of is eating an unfertilized Chicken egg, or parts of plants, such as berries. Some people feel better mentally eating plants that die instead of animals that die. I feel better eating something that does me some good, and that I like.
Death is death to me, and if something is going to die for me to eat, it may as well be a big old fat pig, with lot of bacon on it, rather than an eggplant. At least the pig can die knowing I appreciate his or her contribution to my diet. Someone else can eat the eggplant.
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01-10-2011, 06:11 AM
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Something usually dies, when we eat.
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That's right. If we destroy forests to plant fields of soya that process eliminates thousands of species.
Monoculture of grains destroy not only the insects above ground but the millions of species exist in the topsoil and destroying the topsoil with grain monocultures is simply not sustainable. We have to have animals to keep the soil in good heart.
Lierre Keith explains in her book There is sufficient here to understand the basics.
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01-10-2011, 09:06 AM
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Ted where do you get your bs info from? Most soy and corn crops are government subsidized and go to feeding livestock. Concentrated feeding operations(CAFOs) need massive grain stocks and this is where most grain gets consumed. Grazing requires even more land.
The thing everyone that eats meat daily has to realize is they are not paying the true price of their habit as it is government subsidized by agricultural policy and subsidies. This is a totally unfair situation. The biggest form of water, waste, air and other pollution comes from farming animals and no one is paying the true cost thanks to the structure of Western governments which favor meat eating as a popular habit. There are so many documentaries and info out there that shows how much pollution, waste and suffering that is caused by farming animals for meat. Going vegetarian or vegan is the best thing you can ever do to control pollution, waste and to improve your ethics.
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01-10-2011, 09:34 AM
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A compassionate heart or trying to be cool, I'm sure the animals are grateful either way...
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Trust me, if some 19 yr old hippie vegetarian would go to college in wyoming or north dakota where all the cute ladies ate steaks, his vegetarianism would be a thing of the past.
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