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Old 01-20-2011, 07:05 AM
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Just wondering if any of you drink red wine everyday? I've been drinking one glass of red wine on the weekends, but not on the weekdays. I've read a few times that the max should be 1 glass for women and 2 glasses for men, but we both drink just one glass and only on weekends.

I did see that the average glass is only about 100 calories and is really low in carbs as well, so we've been thinking about drinking one glass everyday.

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Saw this about drinking and the heart and it appears my wife might be drinking too much if she has a glass of wine every day with dinner

"Though definitions of "heavy" drinking varied, it meant at least two or more drinks per day for men, and one or more per day for women"
https://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110120/...drinking_heart
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Do not listen to the media. You can have 4 glasses a day. McDonalds is far worse for your liver than booze. (And by booze, I mean beer and wine)
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No wine, alcohol is bad period. You can get much more benefit, cheaper, without all the bad effects of alcohol with resveratrol supplementation.
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No wine, alcohol is bad period. You can get much more benefit, cheaper, without all the bad effects of alcohol with resveratrol supplementation.
From the link above

"Eighty percent of the benefit of the wine is actually the alcohol, and 20 percent is the resveratrol," Dr. Oz says. "So it's the combination that makes red wine so valuable."


"And alcohol in general - any kind, not only wine - has been found to raise the levels of HDL ("good") cholesterol."
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We don't drink red wine very often, maybe a glass or two around the holiday season. I've heard that it's good for you though, either one glass of red wine or one beer per day. But that's just a suggestion, and nothing's set in stone for the individual. You can have a half-glass per day, or a glass just a few times a week if desired. Here's an article about red wine and cancer that's worth looking at.
https://www.healthyfellow.com/692/bes...er-connection/
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The benefit is in the grapes, not the wine.

Alcohol in any amount is not healthy. Of course the alcohol industry would not agree, however, alcohol is fermented sugar, and sugar stuns the immune system, which can lead to all kinds of health issues..
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A glass of red wine contains 500 calories and 47 g carbohydrate. The calories and carbohydrate , if not burnt off by exercise, will be stored as fat. So, you can accumulate body fat from alcohol. Besides, the alcohol will put pressure on your liver to detox.
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A glass of red wine contains 500 calories and 47 g carbohydrate. The calories and carbohydrate , if not burnt off by exercise, will be stored as fat. So, you can accumulate body fat from alcohol. Besides, the alcohol will put pressure on your liver to detox.
Where did you come up with these numbers? I'd like to see a link because I can't find anything that has wine that high. Are you talking about drinking the entire bottle possiblly?

Dry Red wine 166 calories
https://www.weightlossforall.com/calories_wine.htm

After looking at a hundred differnet sites, you have to without a doubt be talking about an entire bottle of wine

Here take a look at this link, it's 500 calories for an entire bottle and not 47 grams of carbs, but 4.7 grams.
https://www.healthyweightforum.org/en...wine_calories/

I actually make wine myself and the yeast takes care of the sugar, which is the reason why dry wine is actually low in carbs. I know many people who are on low carb diet that actually drink wine. Here's an article about low carb diets and red wine
https://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art12459.asp
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The benefit is in the grapes, not the wine.

Alcohol in any amount is not healthy. Of course the alcohol industry would not agree, however, alcohol is fermented sugar, and sugar stuns the immune system, which can lead to all kinds of health issues..
Intresting, because I've only heard the opposite and have only read the opposite. Isn't there study after study from doctor after doctor indicating the benefits of drinking one glass of wine a day.

Even years ago I remember watching the French Paradox, in that they have a higher fat diet than other countries, yet they have less heart and health issues. They even compared other countries with similar intake and exercise and the French still had better health.

They indicated that the french drink wine every single day, which most countries do not.

To say "Alcohol in any amount is not healthy", is this simply your gut feeling or do you have any study or any real information, because everything else leads to the opposite that heavy drinking is unhealthy and no drinking at all is also less healthy. Moderation seems to be the healthiest.

If you have intrest in the French Paradox, here's two videos I found on the story, which is very old news

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_3xjoWy2IE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njm1LkXP2sg
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Dr. Oz is selling hokum he gives no sources, the most benefit is definitely not from the alcohol. If the alcohol was most the beneficial then why not drink hard liquor instead? If red wine is so good, why only drink one small glass a day? Because alcohol is generally bad for you. It dries out your innards, it penetrates the blood brain barrier and it makes it more permeable, it impairs cell functioning, it heavily burdens the liver, it impairs motor skills, it leads to a huge number of automobile related deaths and injuries, etc., etc.

If alcohol is so healthy why can its abuse lead to liver disease? The liver is what filter outs toxins from non-beneficial garbage like alcohol.
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Dr. Oz is selling hokum he gives no sources, the most benefit is definitely not from the alcohol. If the alcohol was most the beneficial then why not drink hard liquor instead? If red wine is so good, why only drink one small glass a day? Because alcohol is generally bad for you. It dries out your innards, it penetrates the blood brain barrier and it makes it more permeable, it impairs cell functioning, it heavily burdens the liver, it impairs motor skills, it leads to a huge number of automobile related deaths and injuries, etc., etc.

If alcohol is so healthy why can its abuse lead to liver disease? The liver is what filter outs toxins from non-beneficial garbage like alcohol.
You need selenium, copper, etc but too much of those will hurt you also. There are a considerable number of studies that say mild alcohol use is good for you.
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Dr. Oz is selling hokum he gives no sources, the most benefit is definitely not from the alcohol. If the alcohol was most the beneficial then why not drink hard liquor instead? If red wine is so good, why only drink one small glass a day? Because alcohol is generally bad for you. It dries out your innards, it penetrates the blood brain barrier and it makes it more permeable, it impairs cell functioning, it heavily burdens the liver, it impairs motor skills, it leads to a huge number of automobile related deaths and injuries, etc., etc.

If alcohol is so healthy why can its abuse lead to liver disease? The liver is what filter outs toxins from non-beneficial garbage like alcohol.
Forget Dr. Oz, what about the two dozen doctors and studies? Dr. Oz does nothing but report news really and it's old news that's been around for at least a decade. I can see some things being controversial, but having a hard time finding anything online indicating a glass of wine is bad for you. Probably spend too many hours searching and nothing but how good it is for you.

Most of the effects of alcohol that you mention don't seem to be moderate consumption. It's as if I tell people not to take vitamin C, because it will give you diarrhea or that eating 6 apples a day has been shown to lead to diabetes. Anything abused or over consumed is not healthy.

There's a wikipedia entry as well with the health effects of wine, which has links to the studies if you like to read more. You'll see the studies on bones, cancer, vision and things of this nature.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_wine
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By the time you get enough resveratrol from the wine, you'd be drunk anyway.

Wouldn't it be nicer to just have a glass of brandy with creme de cacao (chocolate bean liqueur).
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By the time you get enough resveratrol from the wine, you'd be drunk anyway.

Wouldn't it be nicer to just have a glass of brandy with creme de cacao (chocolate bean liqueur).

JFH, they have this stuff called Godet (sp?) it is a white chocolate liquor and although hard to find, you can find a rum cream. Both are awesome.
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JFH, they have this stuff called Godet (sp?) it is a white chocolate liquor and although hard to find, you can find a rum cream. Both are awesome.
OK. That's a quest. The games afoot.
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