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Iodine Question
For those of you who supplement with iodine ... how do you take it? And, why do you take it that way?
Do you take it with your other supplements? With food? On an empty stomach? Early in the day? Before bed? Any feedback, links, relevant song lyrics, quotes from the National Enquirer, etc. would be appreciated.
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Harry,
I take a 12.5 mg tablet of Iodoral once or twice a week just as a boost because my thyroid medication (both T3 and T4) is pretty well under controle. I've been tempted a few times to try and get off medication altogether by taking Lugols or Iodoral but as long as I'm doing well I can't see why. I get my T4 and slow release T3 from a compounding pharmacy with a prescription from my naturopathic physician. I always have and still do use a lot of iodized salt in my cooking and still ended up hypothyroid, as did all of my 5 sisters and brothers. A niece was leaning strongly toward mental illness by the time she was 14 or 15 years old, only to find out it was caused by hypothyroidism and with proper medication became a totally different, kind and sweet person almost overnight. I copied a few links from the old forum that I found interesting, although you were also on those threads back in 2005, so may already have these. nightowl https://www.vitamincfoundation.org/videos/#BROWNSTEIN https://www.optimox.com/pics/Iodine/IOD-03/IOD_03.htm https://www.wellnessresources.com/pro...sol_iodine.php (That middle one is pretty old...I didn't read it before posting, but there may be some little worthwhile fact worth saving.) Last edited by nightowl; 11-23-2008 at 10:38 AM. Reason: Adding a comment. |
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I take one iodoral daily.. but might switch to lugols when I run out of the iodoral. Just make sure you have a multivitamin with selenium. The 2 work together.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10710195 Dietary Iodine and selenium interact to affect thyroid hormone metabolism of rats. Quote:
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My understanding is that selenium really is necessary and helpful to iodine therapy; however, it should be taken about 2 hours away from iodine. The same for vitamin C and other antioxidants; but especially vitamin C. Selenium is a very powerful antioxidant.
There are lab studies showing that vitamin C does change iodine to iodide. That was done in university labs to provide example of electron donor activity, I believe. Iodide is good for you; but in some cases, you may want to utilize the effects of iodine. Vitamin C reduces halogen based oxidants. Ascorbic acid used to reduce halogens For 5 months, in 2007, I was practicing orthoiodosupplementation; using more than 100mg daily. Today, I use perhaps 12.4 mg twice a week for maintenance. It seems like I keep retoxifying myself; even when I use mild forms of detoxification. Things don't move through my system very well or very quickly.
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I take Liqui-Kelp daily iodine liquid drops. 4 drops = .25 ml or 150 mcg of iodine. I take this 3x day, and in 2 mos. the iodine tincture test has gone from 30 minutes to absorbtion to 8 hours. My endo did NOT want me on it as she says thyroid cancer patients should not take iodine, but when I did it anyway, I got a bunch of energy any my achy premenopausal signs went away in my breasts. She's adjusted my Synthroid once and is looking to do it again in a couple of weeks as initially I was TSH 4 toxic, and a month ago the reading was still 'hyper' high.
As I no longer eat meat I also went on an l carnitine supplement, 1000 mg. 3x day, and coconut oil, 3 tbls. a day. I feel and look like a new person.
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Thanks for all your replies, ladies and gents.
Sorry for the delay in my response. It's been a very busy week. I'm just starting to catch up. Your attention and replies are much appreciated!
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I wonder about the warning about taking selenium and iodine together. They appear together in nature.. seaweed is a good example. When you consider that seaweed is one of the major sources of iodine for japan, you wonder how they assimilated it if the selenium in the seaweed canceled out the iodine?
https://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/kelp.html also fish.. usually have both iodine and selenium. ?? |
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I floated the idea the other night. You should have seen the look on my dear wife's face. It's as if I told her I was joining the army and heading off to Iraq.
This is going to be a tough sell, ST. I may need to employ hypnosis.
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When I take it, I typically try to take it on an empty stomach - for the reason mentioned in your post and JFH's post. But, that's not always so easy to do. I already have other supplements that I try to take in-between meals. And, I'm hoping to avoid adding another supplement pit-stop to my day!
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Bromine is in seaweed also; and bromine is what has caused so many thyroid problems in countries that have removed iodine, in bread making, and replaced it with bromine. When purchasing bread, I always look for the label saying "No Bromates".
In nature, healthy substances are mostly in balance. There are many minerals in seaweed that could make a therapy program fail. It does not mean that seaweed is bad. It just means that you won't get whatever you are looking for in an iodine therapy. One main reason for iodine therapy is to make it displace bromine in the thyroid and other tissues. The thyroid does not know the difference between the two. So, inconveniently bromine has taken the place of iodine. The mission, of iodine therapy, is to give the body so much iodine that it will chelate these other halogens; and take its rightful place.
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When I was taking iodine specifically for therapy, I would take it on an empty stomach; but felt that I could eat after about 30 minutes. I just wanted to make sure that I did not eat something with high content of vitamin C. Now that I only take it for maintenance, I will typically add it to food or drink; such as a drop (Lugol's) in a cup of coffee. I don't take it with tea; because tea has another halogen, fluoride. Iodine is OK with food. I wish that the bakers would add iodine back to bread. They beginning to do that in Australia.
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Thanks for your contributions to this thread. The reason that I try to take the iodine on an empty stomach is because I'm trying to avoid the interactions that you've mentioned. I figure if I take it on an empty stomach ... it should be able to work without any interference. Perhaps that's too extreme of a position?
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It is not extreme, if it makes you comfortable Harry. That's a big part of any therapy. Right? Attitude.
You are right to recognize the need to keep oxidants and antioxidants away from each other. Iodine is not so fragile. Ascorbic acid is powerful though. This is true with MMS therapy as well. Ascorbic acid can render that therapy useless. So vitamin C is the only nutrient that should be kept about 2 hours away from iodine. Others? I would say 1/2 hour. Depending upon what you are looking for with iodine, some have even been successful with "painting" it on their skin. However, to take the quantity that will help your thyroid, you probably need to take it internally. For help with fibrocystic breast disease and thyroid, one needs to have the iodine. For help with prostate, one needs the iodide. So, the best form is the Lugol's solution of iodine and potassium iodide. Then you can be assured that all body tissue will benefit. Iodoral is a tablet form of Lugol's solution. Also, iodine-rich seaweed exhibits an anti-cancer effect in rats and in the lab on human breast cancer cells. Quote:
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I've read that selenium causes mercury to be rendered useless; so the mercury is neutral as it passes through the digestive system. I did not realize that the selenium is no longer usable by the body either. I guess it is better to take more selenium; so that there will be enough left for other functions in the body. Quote:
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