Hi all,
Am shocked but not surprised..after reading this thread...just had to empty 3 quarters of my vit cupboard, and return 10 other vits that are on its way...thats alot of money down the drain...so upset...all these years thinking i'm looking after my health,i would have been better not taking them than taking them...have to shop real smart now... does anyone know i can get vit b complex 100mg which does not contain any of the excipients??? thx
Hi healthmattersalot, I wouldn't throw out all my vitamins, or cancel incoming orders for these additives. I think it's good if you can find them with no harmful additives. My B-50 complex I just bought has magnesium stearate in it. For my personal convenience, I've accepted the good with the bad of my vitamins, I think for myself the benefits outweigh the risks.
kind2creatures - thx so much for your link....everywhere i look had those excipients in urgh...i guess its a mental thing, but once i know something is bad for me,theres no way i'm taking it...heartache over money loss..but i reason that its better than medical bills years down the line (i liken conventional medicine to a shoddy garage, if i ever have to leave my car in the garage i would fear for what they will do to it, same with going to hospital)...my accupunturist mentioned that i had a sluggish gut etc...and i've even had really bad windy city down south, bloaty feeling that even taking priobiotics is not solving..yes even my priobiotics had mag ster in it..and since i normally avoid junk food & eat quite healthly, i could not understand it... now i'm thinking years of taking those excipients lining my gut etc....
Maintaining good flora is the very best thing you can do for yourself healthmattersalot. They are essential in the digestive process as well as fending off bad pathogens. They produce acids that will kill the pathogens.
I've read that the mag stearate is used as filler or diluent in the capsules. It does have lubricating properties and could line the gut. However, not much is used that would do such harm. Never the less if you are like me, you take generally take a lot of caps. I've been trying to buy powders where available.
If you are not allergic to bee pollen, that is a great source of B vitamins. Also, you are wasting your money, if you buy a complex greater than 50. You'll see the waste when you have bright yellow pee.
For bloating, please research digestive bitters. Check it out at your favorite supplement vendor. Used for over 100 years. Be sure to get some that don't have laxative stimulating herbs; so that means not Swedish Bitters. That will only make your colon more lazy than it already is. Bitters will do a lot for you; including the support of the liver. The reason you are bloating, is because the food is just fermenting instead of digesting. The bitters and the probiotics should help this. You only need to use half of whatever the bitters label says to take. The back of the tongue just needs to taste the bitter. The body will do the rest.
Maintaining good flora is the very best thing you can do for yourself healthmattersalot. They are essential in the digestive process as well as fending off bad pathogens. They produce acids that will kill the pathogens.
I've just spent ���� getting Dr O's famous formula....hope it works...gonna clean out my gut
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Originally Posted by jfh
I've read that the mag stearate is used as filler or diluent in the capsules. It does have lubricating properties and could line the gut. However, not much is used that would do such harm. Never the less if you are like me, you take generally take a lot of caps. I've been trying to buy powders where available.
I've been an avid supplementer for 15yrs....
yes thats what i've decided to do today....works out economically better too but lots of hassle...refill capsules(lots of hassle)/mix in a drink (unpalatable)
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Originally Posted by jfh
If you are not allergic to bee pollen, that is a great source of B vitamins. Also, you are wasting your money, if you buy a complex greater than 50. You'll see the waste when you have bright yellow pee.
will half my complex B- 100...i thought the yellow pee was due to niacin/one of the b's can't remember which one. Got bee pollen today, hope they taste better than my last ones, different brand.
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Originally Posted by jfh
For bloating, please research digestive bitters. Check it out at your favorite supplement vendor. Used for over 100 years. Be sure to get some that don't have laxative stimulating herbs; so that means not Swedish Bitters. That will only make your colon more lazy than it already is. Bitters will do a lot for you; including the support of the liver. The reason you are bloating, is because the food is just fermenting instead of digesting. The bitters and the probiotics should help this. You only need to use half of whatever the bitters label says to take. The back of the tongue just needs to taste the bitter. The body will do the rest.
hope Dr O's formula will restore some good bacterial in me.......thx Jim for the advise will research on bitters.....
today i've been like a mad women on a mission.....all that wasted money...cancelling 15 current orders... having to reshop....
i did wonder why the big boys in conventional medicine did not put a stop to vitamin supplements..now i know why...no wonder they always say vits don't work....aaarrghhh........vent over.......n..o...t..
...feel betrayed by the supplement industry....
whilst spending a good part of today re-shopping for vits i came across this...the word 'toxic' is loud and clear...don't download if you're faint hearted....www.healthline.cc/images/Excipient.pdf
L'selenomethionine (use to use natures's way and thought it was great,yeast free and all but its got cellulose&maltodextrin etc),
pcynogenol (current one has the dreaded mag ster) &
grapeseed extract(current one has the dreaded mag ster)
that i can get....been searching for hours...can't find alternatives/substitutes...
thx all
I use NutriBiotic Grapefruit Seed Extract, thanks to the recommendations of the folks on this forum. The capsules do have magnesium stearate as a vegetable lubricant. I also use the liquid concentrate which is unfiltered, organically grown and mag stearate free.
I bought mine from my local vitamin store, but you can go to their site and purchase if you're interested.
Not sure about the other supplements, but it seems that a liquid or powder form would eliminate the capsule, and be more additive free.
__________________ "Adopt the pace of nature; her secret is patience." ~Ralph Waldo Emerson~
Had an eureka moment this morning....why trouble myself with all these singular re-purchases, when i can get a tub of powder of everything........happy/reliefed once more....all is right in my vitamin world again.....panic over.....
....why trouble myself with all these singular re-purchases, when i can get a tub of powder of everything........
I vote for powders. Cheaper. Longer lasting between purchases; since you won't have capsules full of fillers. Also you won't have to take so much for the same reason.
I normally get powdered herbs; or powder them myself. Vitamins are more difficult do this way. Although I do try to get a few natural vitamins/minerals from herbs.
I usually put the powdered portions in about 2 or 3 swallows of water, stir, drink. Then drink some water to wash down. Sometimes I put a half teaspoon under my tongue (so I don't breathe it into my lungs), sip water, swish, swallow. Works well. Is easy.
...I usually put the powdered portions in about 2 or 3 swallows of water, stir, drink. Then drink some water to wash down. Sometimes I put a half teaspoon under my tongue (so I don't breathe it into my lungs), sip water, swish, swallow. Works well. Is easy.
Thx Jim, helpful as always.
Guess what guys & dolls....i don't know whether i'm over re-acting but given all my 'gut' troubles & excipient intakes... i've decided to take an expanded G.I. panel test ....bloomin expensive....but TMI the stuff&smell coming out can't be good indicators...the last 3yrs being like this...can't ignore it any longer.....
Once i know whats wrong then i can treat it better....rather than waste more money throwing everything at it (current approach)...peace of mind i guess
Seagate manufactures products, including grape seed extract, that contain no Mag. Stearate or other garbage. The're a bit expensive but the quality is fantastic. Worth taking a look at.
Seagate manufactures products, including grape seed extract, that contain no Mag. Stearate or other garbage. The're a bit expensive but the quality is fantastic. Worth taking a look at.
the stuff&smell coming out can't be good indicators...the last 3yrs being like this...can't ignore it any longer.....
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