Hi everyone, it's been awhile since i visit this site. I don't know where else to turn but here. I had alot of help and support from some of you kind and knowledgable folks with some of my health problems from the past. I hope you can help me with this one too.
I just found out today my son was tested positive for staph infection. I was beyond disbelief and nauseous at the same time when his doc to me the news. I'm a germaphobe and wash our hands all the time. We have good hygiene and sanitary habbits. I don't know how he caught it, I'm just shock!
He has a really bad case of eczema from food allergies and about 2 months ago i noticed a couple of small bumps with pus on his hands where the eczema is and thought it was just a minor infection from all his scratching. The past several weeks the bumps spread to his arms, elbows and a couple on the back of his left knee where all the eczema is. And the past few days it has spread to his belly and a couple on the buttocks. The ones of the tummy and buttocks arent as bad as the others, they look like tiny rash bumps. His doc said it's staph too and it's colonizing!
About the same time that he got the infected bumps he also get little white sores that hurt in his mouth one at a time that comes and goes in different areas. I don't know if that's related to staph. My husband and I started to have some unexplain itchy bumps like the ones on my sons belly about a week ago. I have new itchy rash like bumps on my arms, hands, and leg every morning I awoke. I really hope and pray that all three of us are not infected. I am scared out of my mind.
I have more concerns though. I am not a fan of pharmaceutical drugs because of all the toxic side effects. His doctor is putting him on antibiotic Cleocin-Clindamycin liquid to take orally three times a day for 10 days. This antibiotic also comes with a WARNING that it can cause severe (rarely fatal) intestinal condition(pseudomembranous colitis), and have other side effects. He was also put on Mupirocin(Bactroban) topical antibiotic ointment 22g, 3 times a day. This one doesn't come with a warning but PRECAUTIONS about polyethelyne glycol, and of course other side effects too.
I am extremely worry for my son. I don't want the infection to get worste and go into his blood, but i am scared to death to give him the meds, especially the oral antibiotic that comes with a warning. I don't know what to do. These meds could help him and hurt him at the same time.
Does anyone here know a natural alternative treatment that can help my son, or maybe all three of us, get rid of the staph infection successfully? Please share your thoughts and suggestions, any is greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead.
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Eventhough I am in not in the right mood or spirit to go, but we have planned trip to Florida for a few days for the 4th of July. my son has been telling us for months that he wanted to go to the beach and build castles in the sand. I won't be able to reply to your posts after Thursday, but please keep sharing your thoughts and suggestions. Thanks again.
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Last edited by Arrowwind09; 07-02-2009 at 07:29 PM.
Reason: changed title, added MRSA
I am so sorry to hear this but do not despair. There are ways out of this.
I have already spent considerable time on this MRSA topic and have everything nice and tidy for you to read at Health Salon at the following links. You will have to decide which is the best approach for you and your family.
You must get all bumps and infections that you or your husband may get checked out also. This can be very contigeous and in order to help your son you must also take care of yourself. Get lots of that gel hand sanitizer and put a bottle at every sink and one in your purse. When you wash clothing and linens put a tablespoon of clorox in every load.
Please read the following posts and at the end of the page you will find further links under Related Posts that you should read also. You really do have several options. After you have read the material, then ask questions and perhaps I can help further.
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I just spent close to 2 hours looking up videos and putting information together here, but somehow deleted it!! Here is another video to add to the ones Arrow pointed you to on healthsalon, that helps to back up the benefits of garlic. AllicinMAX that's promoted in the UK doesn't seem to be available in the US, but in the ads I was able to find it only has 54 mcg of allicin, and you can get standardized garlic here that's much stronger than that. It is sometimes hard to get children to take garlic, but I have read that if you cut a garlic clove in half (and let it set about ten minutes to develope the allacin) then rub the cut side on the bottom of the child's feet, it will go through the body and they can taste it within a couple of minutes. Just remember that garlic can get spicey hot if eaten, so should be mixed in other food for a child...I love it in cous-cous, adding the garlic after it cools a little. Be careful if using garlic extract oil. It's best to taste it yourself first.
Here is another video I ran across on You Tube, done in 2007 on a local TV news report about an ointment that is supposed to treat MRSA, called StaphAseptic. It's produced in this region, not far from where I live...Albany, OR, but I have never used the product and don't know anyone that has.
I hope some of this information is helpful. I want to say oral colloidal silver might be good, but I would need to look that up.
Good luck, nightowl
Last edited by nightowl; 07-01-2009 at 06:25 AM.
Reason: Removed the product website address...playing by the rules.
My first link with the videos shows exactly what garlic product to get and where. Cathy, the lady telling her story on Health Salon, is the person to go to for guidance. She cured her family of it with Allimed.
There are probably quiet a few things that can take care of this bug but because it is so serious I feel I can only reccommend things that have proven out. It is not time for experimentation.....but I know that if it were me I would be experimenting! I can't seem to resist...
and one thing I have seen work with whitlow is MMS applied topically....but with MRSA, this little boy already has it all through his system.. and mms might work, colloidial silver might work, but there is little information to go on but more than topical application is required.
There is an old Indian saying "Never mix your Medicines"
Which means....you never know what one medicine will do to another
and you may end up with no result at all.
I would worry about mixing allicin products with MMS. How do I know that MMS would not oxidize the allicin? and waste its strength doing so?
Yet I have every reason to believe that MMS could take care of it but then how to administer it to a three year old child? Allimed would be the better choice.
Colloidal silver might be a safe choice if you were to mix...and I like www.nutrasilver.com the best, but Allimed should do it on its own.
There is a chance that clindymicin on its own will cure this. But if it were me I would do the Allimed also, as MRSA often appears cured but then comes back, and back, and back. If he is already on the antibiotic continue. But add alternative treatment to it. Allimed should not affect the antibiotic.
He should also be taking a really good probiotic and a B vitamin complex.
I hadn't heard of staphAseptic before... and it may be good as a topical control and in the nose but, and a big but here,
Once the primary lesion moves, there is the risk of systemic travel and you have to get the antibiotic to where the infection is.
How many times have I seen a lesion start on the foot and end up on the back, the hands, the head? too many. You have to knock it out so that you harbor none, and so that you also are not a carrier. Here is the active ingredient in staphaseptic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzethonium_chloride
Be aware that this is a form of benzine, a known carcinogenic. Well, I'll Be! this is found in grapefruitseed extract! If it were that toxic I'd be dead by now. www.terressentials.com/takeokagrapefruitseed.pdf
I would suggest that this is not a good time to go to Florida. You want to make sure you are all well first.
Last edited by Arrowwind09; 07-01-2009 at 09:18 AM.
Well, I have used garlic many times myself to help reduce inflammation in my lungs, and anytime I have inflamed cuts or a cold coming on, so I like to keep on top of where to find the best supplements. Usually I use raw garlic, but sometimes when sick you don't feel like messing with making your own medicine. You're right about the reading though!! My eyes are really beginning to give me trouble from reading on the internet so much. It's time for new glasses, but this time it's damage I've caused myself, by over-doing it.
Also the colitis from antibiotics is due to clostridium difficile I think it is. I got this once from eating lettuce and being on the antibiotic. Normally the gut flora protect you from this nasty anaerobic bug that lays eggs and is difficult to get rid of. They of course have another antibiotic for this but don't wait- if diarrhea- the get it checked IMMEDIATELY. Don't let them make you wait a week or two or he'll be shedding the inside of his colon. The idiots made me wait. I went in and got it checked and it was positive, and the test was only about $5.
I researched this and found the antibiotic kills it but it comes back. You need to eat a lot of good yogurt, and a yeast called saccharomyces boulardi (Yarrow brands has it on the web). This yeast kills it. It is commonly available overseas but not here. AIDs patients use it too. ALso you can add some lactoferrin which is good against bugs which like iron.
The root cause of your child's problem may be a lack of Vit D and fatty acids. If you are limiting fats, this is the wrong thing to do. Feed lots of olive oil, whole milk if tolerated, virgin coconut oil, grass fed meats, pacific wild salmon (not the farm raised stuff). Feed him 2000 units or so of D3 daily and get him in the sun w/o screen for 1/2 hr min. in bright sun. See vitamindcouncil.org
First, germs aren't the problem, a poor immune system is, and what caused the poor immune system also caused the eczema, the bumps, and the food allergies.
The problem was caused by vaccines.
Instead of using antibiotics, I would suggest using colloidal silver. Research it.
In small amounts and short term use, it is nontoxic and has no negative side effects. However, it will kill yeast, mold, fungi, mildew, and all kinds of bacteria, including the antibiotic resistant staph and MRSA. Do some research on all that.
I would also suggest a good probiotic to rebuild the good bacteria in your young sons' intestines. The best probiotic, bar none, is Dr. Ohhiras probiotic, research that as well.
To reverse damage done by vaccines, there is a protocol on Dr. Carleys site:
Thank you everyone so much. I apologize for delaying my reply. I have been having problem with my computer and couldn't go online after I post this thread. I am very grateful for all your time, comments, suggestions, info, and thoughts.
We decided to stay home and not go to Florida after I had packed and unpacked our things. I was in so much despair when I decided it was a wise choice for us to stay home. But his case doesn't look serious so I decided to give his doctor a call to see what he say. When the nurse called me back, she said that the docor said it will be good for him--salt water will help him heal faster. I was so happy for him, he wanted to go to the beach for quite some time. We needed to get away so badly, and it was worth it. The salt water does help his eczema and bumps, they do heal faster. As for his eczema, as long as he doesn't eat anything that he is allergic to it won't flare up and spread.
Today is his last day on this strong antibiotic. I have to say that I was praying the whole entire time that he would be ok taking it. And he's fine. I have been giving him probitotics and lots of water. He hasn't show any sign of side effect, so I'm thankful for that and I don't think I wouldn't want to put him on it any more after this. The little bumps are clearing up nicely, but I'm not sure if the bug is completely erradicated from his system. I don't know if I should put him on AllicinMax or colloidal silver to make the bug go away for good. AllicinMax is probably a better choice since there will be no risk of his skin turning blue from colloidal silver. I know he would have to take a certain amount for that to happen.
I think his problem is related to what RCannon mentioned above--lack vitamin D and fatty acids. I used to give him fish oil(cod liver) and stopped when someone suggested that I should give him Barleans flax oil to help with his eczema, and it worked for the first few days until he ate an allergic food. We stay indoor alot, and we should get some good ole sunshine everyday--we need to start doing that too. And of course, I totally agree with Pinballdoctor about vaccines that are causing my boy's immume system to go haywire--its always been on the back of my mind. He got all his shots up to age two(over 20!). We went back for his 3 year check up almost 2 weeks ago, and thank God he doesn't need anymore shots till he's 4 or before he starts school, that'll be a triple shot. I don't want him to get vaccinated anymore, but he already had so many already. I will definitely check out drcarley's protocol to reverse vaccines damage to help my son be well and normal again. I'm on a mission to get my baby healthy again. How can anyone live and can't eat without suffering.
He is due to go back to his doctor on the 14th, to a dermatologist on August 5th for them to put him under some light to help his eczema his doctor said, and to an allergist on August 13th. I pray that he will be cured everyday.
Thanks everyone, again, so much. I am very grateful for your help.
A co-worker of mine, her grandson had it at age of three. Then the dad caught it from him. The little boy has been treated three times so far. The last time with vancomycin, which they did orally. Lucky for that kid. It has been two years and has not come back. On the other hand it did come back two times for him. It took a lot of drugs to get past it.
Certainly there is possibility that it will not come back.. But due to his overall skin condition that puts him at greater risk. Clorox makes a spray disinfectant. I would spray everything he touches. do the bathroom, bed rails, stair rails, door knobs, whatever, everywhere you can think of.
If it were my son I would have him do the allimed, not worry about the expense, and don't look back. I think they make a liquid prep. that would be easier for someone his age, unless he just happens to be able to swallow pills.
Haven't heard from you and what your decision has been. I want to tell you about another product that I think will work well for MRSA. I have actually known about this product for some time but I have hesitated to present this idea because there just were not many testimonials out there on its use for MRSA. As it turns out the testimonials are there but I just wasn't finding them.
I like to recommend products that have a good testimonial bases. But now I think that NutraSilver has proven itself sufficiently to merit use for MRSA. I heard a very powerful testimonial today also about a woman who used it for a post op MRSA infection. Her infection was cleared in one week. She took 30 drops 3 x day in water.
I would guess that 10 drops 3 x day for your son would be good.
So often remedies are recommended that can be effective but just won't work with children because you cannot get them to take it. I am confident that you will be able to get NutraSilver into your son.
Arrow, I apologize, again, for not responding sooner.
We went back to the doctor yesterday and he said the infection is cleared. But he gave him an ointment to apply in his nose so he won't get infected again.
I had made an appointment with the German lady naturopath that you searched down for me this Monday coming up. I spoke quite a bit with her and she seems very nice. First thing she asked me was how did I know about her. I said from a very kind friend i met in the health forum. I asked, and she said he had cured many children with eczema and that it's very common. But she needs to know how long he's been having it and that it might take longer for him to heal because the body takes a while to adjust. She's been practicing here for 11 years and also in Germany. It seems promising, I can't wait to bring him in. Thanks.
If I can get my boy to take raw smashed garlic water, I can get him to take colloidal silver. I got him to take it a few times when he was sick--he is terrify of it. Now whenever he's bad, I mention garlic water and he automatically turn to an angel.
I know the infection is cleared, but I still want to make sure it's completely out of his system and not come back. Do you know how safe it is to give nutrasilver to a child? How long should I give it to him? Can I apply that in his nose instead of the ointment?
The nutrasilver should be given for 10 days and if you can figure out how to flush his sinus with it twice a day all the better. This bacteria can harbor there because the antibiotics do not infiltrate the mucus. I suspect it would be the same with oral NutraSilver also.
The ointment to put in his nose is to kill MRSA. MRSA has a strong tendency to colonize in the nose. Often the med to swab in the nose they give for it does not work. At Children's Hospital in Dallas Texas, a child who has had MRSA must test negative with nasal swab 3 times before he is permitted out of isolation. The swab tests are not very accurate giving both false positives and false negatives. After the medicine is done I would insist on 3 cultures to be done to be sure. This is basic hospital protocol and your doctor should comply. If he moans and groans just put your foot down. Inconsistency and incompetence is why this has spread around so much.
NutraSilver will not be near as bad as garlic water!
And I will tell you at this point your doctor has no way to know for sure if the MRSA bug is fully out of his system. Now I would also be concerned if you or your husband have become carriers also. I would advise a nasal culture for you too. Now your doc is going to flip and tell you it is not necessary. Just tell him that at least 20 percent of surgeons in California are MRSA carriers. Ask him why he would think that you would fully escape the chance of carrying it after such close contact with your son.
SOS! MY 3YR OLD HAS STAPH INFECTION, MRSA
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