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TrojansOwl1

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Hello Nat Med Talk Community,

I'm posting this here because not too long ago I visited sites like this one, conducted daily searches through scientific and medical journals and visited medical specialists across the country trying to find answers to my health issues. Fortunately, I found them in a treatment called Upper Cervical Care, and I would like to share it with you. First, however, I'd like to briefly tell you my story.

On the morning of September 3, 2007 I woke up, and I knew something wasn't right. I had dizzy spells and felt a headache coming on. I thought perhaps I hadn't slept well so I went back to sleep, awoke a few hours later and found my symptoms had only worsened. Within a few weeks, I would develop most of the symptoms and conditions that I would suffer from non-stop for the next 32 months: one continuous headache, brain fog, decreased cognitive function, dizziness, neck and upper body pain, severe back spasms and muscle twitches, chronic fatigue, disk degeneration, anxiety, depression, insomnia, night sweats, tmj, digestion issues, "electric shock" feelings throughout my upper body, seasonal allergies -- you get the idea. It got to the point where I knew I wouldn't have a career or a job or a family and the person that I used to be was gradually fading, never to come back. After almost three years, you begin to take the elapsed time into consideration and think, "There's been billions of humans that have lived and died with pain. Why would I be any different from any body else? Why will I figure this out when no one has?" I saw medical specialists in Dallas, Houston, DC and Los Angeles, was administered every test, treatment and scan all without answers. I received some diagnoses but these labels were meaningless as nothing was being done to improve my health. Eventually, I saw a psychiatrist because you're made to feel like you're simply just stressed or that it's "all in your head". These doctors had good intentions, they just couldn't help me. What medicine did tell me is that they felt some of my issues were coming from my neck. Why that was or how to fix them though, they weren't sure. With this information, eventually I decided to look outside of mainstream medicine and that's when I found Upper Cervical Care. I always tell people that it was the last thing I found, but also the first thing that actually made sense. I started treatment, felt immediate relief and as the months passed my health gradually returned -- as they say in UCC, "top-down, inside out". The first night after my correction, for the first time in years, I slept eleven hours straight through the night. When I woke up and saw the sun shining through the curtains, I sat up and cried. Perhaps this story, or at least parts of it, resonate with some of you.

There are many health treatments out there both "allopathic" and "alternative" that really help people and I'm not here to argue about their effectiveness, but I do want to present a different option and a unique approach. The difference between UCC and every treatment I've ever come across is that it's not symptom-based -- it's principle-based. They're not going to treat you based on how you feel, where it hurts or what your symptom or condition is. That's what I see everywhere else: for example, if you have back pain, then let's do surgery or physical therapy; if you have allergies, then take these herbs. Upper Cervical Care does not work that way.

It's based on one principle: when the top bone (or two) in your neck are slightly misaligned then that creates pressure on the brainstem and causes the body to go into a state of degenerative health. As you may know, neurologists call the brainstem "the center of life" because it controls the automatic functions of our bodies, including blood pressure, cardiac function, breathing, sweating, balance, digestion, sleep, and perhaps most importantly for some with back pain, muscle tonicity through out the body, etc. It's where the nervous system bottlenecks as it goes back into the brain and if there's interference there, then the evidence suggests, the body malfunctions.

I often ask myself how or why we would have such an important area of our nervous system in such a vulnerable place. Those two bones are what allow us to pan and tilt our heads, but that flexibility comes at the expense of stability. Physical and emotional trauma such as falls, sports, emotional stress and even the birth process cause those bones to misalign or -- subluxate -- and they remain that way. Not only is the brainstem jammed but the body begins to compensate for the head being off center which is what appears to cause back pain and muscle aches throughout the body. When the "correction" is made, the brainstem is released and the body begins to work the way it's supposed to and when that happens symptoms and conditions resolve inside out. As far as back pain goes, when the head is on straight, the muscles relax and begin to pull the segments of the spine back into proper alignment. As long as that head's on crooked, there's going to be back issues.

So the approach is very different. I came across UCC when I was desperate for answers but it just made total sense to me. I though "Duh! No wonder I have a searing sensation in the back of my head!" A lot of people, however, don't experience neck pain or headaches. It affects all of us in different ways. There is not a symptom or condition I have not seen respond -- everything from allergies and asthma to male and female issues, physical or emotional conditions, it doesn't really matter. And again, it's not treating the symptom -- that's the difference. And the reason, I think, people get well.

It actually has a fascinating history as it was developed by the developer of chiropractic, B.J. Palmer. Back in the 1920s, he observed that people weren't getting well through general chiropractic care and he sought to find out why and how to get all or most people well not just some. He discovered the less he adjusted the better people got, until he narrowed it down to the top two bones in the neck. And he only adjusted when his tests showed it was needed -- not based on how a patient felt. Some of the major differences between UCC and chiropractic or physical therapy manipulation is that the correction are very gentle -- there is no popping or twisting or jerking, they don't adjust below C2 or C3 and because the corrections are precise, they hold. It's not the correction that heals you, it's holding the correction -- it's like the body performs internal surgery on itself once it's "connected".

Unfortunately, even though thousands of chiropractic and international medical studies are there, this information does not get out to the public in the U.S. because there's no money in UCC since there's no pharmaceuticals to sell so it's a patient-to-patient, very grass roots effort to inform people. A few years ago, the University of Chicago actually did a study on UCC's effects on blood pressure and the doctors were stunned at the results. It even got a 5 minute segment on Good Morning America. The NIH pledged 2 million dollars to fund more studies and then reneged. That is what usually happens. But one of the many great things about UCC is how transparent it is though, you can ask your own questions, make your own observations, visit an office yourself and come to your own conclusions. I am happy to say though, that in Europe, mainstream medicine has been much more receptive of UCC and people there, especially in Italy, are receiving the benefits.

What I've learned is that symptoms are your body's way of telling you that there's something wrong and to fix it -- to not just give it another pill. Many times people disparage medicine but perhaps don't offer a viable option. People want something tangible and accessible, something that they can understand, experience and that gets them well and I think UCC does a beautiful job of doing all those things.

I was 23 in September 2007 and 26 on May 20, 2010 -- the day of my first correction and also the best day of my life! When I resumed grad school, I made a documentary on it. Feel free to ask me for the link by the way. I am now going to be an Upper Cervical doctor to help others the way they have helped me, but in the mean time I wanted to pass this information along to others as I know what it's like to be in pain and have no hope. When I was sick, I wish someone would have told me about this but no one did. And that is the reason for my (long) post today

I hope this information is helpful and makes sense to some of you. If you have any questions or comments, feel free to ask. Thank you for reading!

TrojansOwl1
 

knightofalbion

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A very warm welcome to the forum.

Thank you for sharing your story. Very interesting.

I'm glad it worked for you.

And wanting to help others as you have been helped is commendable.

I wish you well.
 

jfh

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A good career for you. Actually, I believe that Palmer was full spinal. I was friends with many students of the Palmer chiropractic college in Spartanburg, SC. Perhaps he developed UCC, but his college does not teach it.

My chiro, Dr Sherman, was UCC only. That's why I liked him. He felt that if the neck is in place, the rest of the body and spine would fall into place too. He has a college in Spartanburg too. Late 60s into 70s. He is not longer with us, but his legacy lives on.

Anyway, I'm glad you found your path.
 

TrojansOwl1

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A very warm welcome to the forum.

Thank you for sharing your story. Very interesting.

I'm glad it worked for you.

And wanting to help others as you have been helped is commendable.

I wish you well.
Thank you Knight for the nice welcome and encouraging words.
 

TrojansOwl1

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A good career for you. Actually, I believe that Palmer was full spinal. I was friends with many students of the Palmer chiropractic college in Spartanburg, SC. Perhaps he developed UCC, but his college does not teach it.

My chiro, Dr Sherman, was UCC only. That's why I liked him. He felt that if the neck is in place, the rest of the body and spine would fall into place too. He has a college in Spartanburg too. Late 60s into 70s. He is not longer with us, but his legacy lives on.

Anyway, I'm glad you found your path.
Thank you for your message jfh.

Sherman is a great school and is my top choice so I might find myself there in a few months.

BJ Palmer developed Upper Cervical in the 1930s and conducted research along with another chiropractor named AA Wernsing for many years. In 1950 when the research was complete, BJ turned The Palmer School into a UC-only school and did away with full spine. The ten years that the Palmer School was Upper Cervical exclusive is the reason we have Upper Cervical today. Doctors like Blair, Grostic and Sherman either graduated from Palmer during that time or were influenced by BJs work and went on to develop their own UC techniques and found their own schools and practices elsewhere. When BJ died in 1961 his son took over the school, got rid of Upper Cervical and went back to full spine.

I'm sure Dr. Sherman was a great man and I look forward to learning more about him soon. I have great admiration for all of these men and women who have advanced this treatment and cause because if it weren't for them I would not be healthy today.

"Top down, inside out" makes sense to me!
 

D Bergy

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Thank you for the information.

I have made an appointment with one of the clinics for next week.

My neck has something wrong with it from driving forklifts for several years. Driving with my head turned backwards took its toll.
While it has healed quite a bit since I got off that job I still get headaches and nausea on occasion from my neck.

I also have Crohn's Disease which may or may not be related to this neck problem. Since the neck problem does cause me nausea I do not think it is too much of a stretch to say it affects my digestive system to some degree.

Even if it just resolves the headaches it will be worth the time and money.

I came across this before, and recommended it to a person with Parkinson's Disease. For some dumb reason I overlooked it for myself. Your post made me consider this treatment for my own problems.

Best Regards

Dan
 

TrojansOwl1

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That's great Dan! Do you know what technique the doctor you made the appointment with practices? Check your PMs, I sent you some info on that.

Thank you for the information.

I have made an appointment with one of the clinics for next week.

My neck has something wrong with it from driving forklifts for several years. Driving with my head turned backwards took its toll.
While it has healed quite a bit since I got off that job I still get headaches and nausea on occasion from my neck.

I also have Crohn's Disease which may or may not be related to this neck problem. Since the neck problem does cause me nausea I do not think it is too much of a stretch to say it affects my digestive system to some degree.

Even if it just resolves the headaches it will be worth the time and money.

I came across this before, and recommended it to a person with Parkinson's Disease. For some dumb reason I overlooked it for myself. Your post made me consider this treatment for my own problems.

Best Regards

Dan
 

jfh

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Sherman is a great school and is my top choice so I might find myself there in a few months.
I'm sure you will appreciate Sherman College. I knew many students in the early 1970s. Most went on to set up practices throughout the world. Literally. Some very close friends, husband and wife graduates, went to Papaua New Guinea. The met and married while at Sherman. A few others went to Ecuador, where hospitals had entire wings for chiropractic care. One of my best friends went to Fiji. Chiropractors were just then being accepted in the USA.

In modern times, chiropractors get involved with other natural healing methods as well as adjustments. My recent naturopathic doctor is also a chiropractor among his other degrees.
 

JanH

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I have had my health improved enormously by two upper cervical specific chiropractors for three years. The first helped, then I seemed to hit a plateau. The second found two problems the first didn't so am now moving forward again in my healing. I have fibromyalgia, had dreadful headaches for decades, vertigo, balance problems; I was nearly bedridden for years, in constant agony, sick, exhausted. All have been helped a great deal and I continue to improve. My doctors at Kaiser insisted my problems were psychosomatic and tried to drug the symptoms. Fortunately, I didn't believe them nor take their drugs. If you're in the Sacramento, CA area, I highly recommend Dr. Matthew Hassey at Nucali Spinal Care in El Dorado Hills.
 

jesichashope

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This is most interesting and I am going to look into this. I was hit six years ago in an auto accident that changed my life. Suffering from TBI as well as cervical damage; it is number 2 that is damaged and hitting the spinal cord; I can empathize with what you went through. This will indeed give me hope.
If you have any further information please email me, I want to see if I can find someone in my area. Thank you so much for sharing.
 

TrojansOwl1

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I'm glad you stuck with it Jan! And thanks for sharing that experience. Before he passed away I had a chance to meet Dr. Daniel Clark, who is the doctor behind all the UC posters and diagrams, at a UC conference last year. I sat down with him for a few minutes at the back of the room and told him I wanted to be a UC doc. As I walked away he called my name and gave me some parting words of advise. He said, "Young man, just remember if the patient is not getting well, it's not the patient, it's YOU."

At the time I had also somewhat plateaud in my recovery and after my own doctor moved I ended up going to someone else who was much more experienced. I had seen him before when my regular doc was on vacation and he always told me I had a C2 issue apart from the C1 that was already being addressed. Well, he adjusted my C2 and my corrections began to hold much longer and my remaining symptoms disappeared!

But it sounds like you're well on your way. I'm so happy your'e feeling better!

I have had my health improved enormously by two upper cervical specific chiropractors for three years. The first helped, then I seemed to hit a plateau. The second found two problems the first didn't so am now moving forward again in my healing.
 

TrojansOwl1

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I'm glad it's encouraged you to look into it. I'm sorry to hear you've been going through such a difficult injury.

Check your Inbox, I've sent you some info.

This is most interesting and I am going to look into this. I was hit six years ago in an auto accident that changed my life. Suffering from TBI as well as cervical damage; it is number 2 that is damaged and hitting the spinal cord; I can empathize with what you went through. This will indeed give me hope.
If you have any further information please email me, I want to see if I can find someone in my area. Thank you so much for sharing.
 

happy2bhere

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Hello Trojansowl1 and :welcome: to the forum :)


I wonder if this could help those suffering from Chiari Malformations? I understand it is the brain stem that is too large - downward displacement of the cerebellar tonsils - and in many cases surgery is performed. But conditions/symptoms continue.

Interesting information.
 

TrojansOwl1

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Hello happy, thank you for the nice welcome :)

I'm confident it can help. In the office, they see people with that condition all the time. I spoke with a UC doctor about it today and he told me that when the atlas gets jammed at the skull, it straightens the cervical spine causing tethering on the spinal chord. Tensile stress on the chord pulls on the cerebellar tonsils below the foramen magnum which is what Chiari is he said. He told me Chiari is caused by a an upper cervical subluxation that has gone unaddressed in a specific manner.

Medicine always likes to say that things are genetic or congenital, and I'm no expert on Chiari malformations but like with many other symptoms or conditions if you think about it, if they are genetic or congenital, why do we only get them when we're 20 or 30 or older? From a UC perspective, the body is very resilient and it takes time for these things to develop and for symptoms to finally appear after an upper cervical injury. A person could have an upper cervical injury at age 5 and only feel the effects a decade later. Having said that, I know that some people do have Chiari and other conditions from birth, but the important thing to remember is still to get that pressure off the brainstem and chord in a specific manner.

I think there's a reason symptoms continue after surgeries, they are not getting to a cause or a source. And I think that's the beauty of Upper Cervical -- symptoms and conditions do not matter. They only care about their principle. But I think Chiari is actually a good example of a very localized and very direct consequence of an atlas or axis subluxation. By the way, I'm not anti-medicine, but I think medicine has it's place and that's emergency care.

Anyway, the patients that come in do get better so Im sure they can help with it. Let me know if you have any questions!

Hello Trojansowl1 and :welcome: to the forum :)


I wonder if this could help those suffering from Chiari Malformations? I understand it is the brain stem that is too large - downward displacement of the cerebellar tonsils - and in many cases surgery is performed. But conditions/symptoms continue.

Interesting information.
 


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