The root of all disease, and why we should NOT cure others' illnesses

Living Food

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This post is likely to be highly controversial, but so be it. When I hear people talking about healing others' illnesses I cringe inside, so it's time to set the record straight. This post will look at disease from a very advanced spiritual perspective.

What is the cause of disease and sickness? We're all quite knowledgeable in that area, and we know it comes down to things such as nutritional deficiencies, toxins, stress, and similar harmful influences. This is true in a way, but it is only partial truth within this very limited physical dimension. What cannot be seen by the physical eyes is that the true reason for all illness, suffering, and adversity is a type of very fine extradimensional matter that is called karma. Lots of people talk about karma as a law of the universe etc, but what they don't realize is that it is a type of particle that has physical existence and is accumulated by doing "bad" things. We all have this matter in our energy field and the only way to get rid of it is through suffering, which under the right circumstances can transform it into a very precious form of matter.

Illnesses may be superficially caused by the physical factors we all know by heart, but those are merely circumstances attracted to the person by their karma. If a person gets cancer from living next to a cell phone tower, that is just the particular manifestation of their karma at work. If they didn't live next to the tower they would still attract ill health by different physical means, or maybe they'd be hit by a car or suffer bankruptcy. Karma must be payed back, there is no getting around it.

The issue is that when someone is sick, they are essentially paying off their karma through that hardship. If a doctor or natural health professional then heals their illness for them, how can that person pay off their karma? They have not eliminated this person's suffering, they have merely postponed it to sometime in the future. The physical illness may be completely eradicated and the body restored to health, but the karma remains because it was not payed off. This karma will manifest as sickness or some other type of hardship down the line, so in the end healing someone doesn't help them at all. Indeed, by preventing a person from paying off their karma, doctors or natural health professionals are incurring a significant karmic debt themselves because such actions are a huge transgression under cosmic law.

You can teach a person how to heal themselves and it is fine because they are shouldering that responsibility themselves, but heal a person of your own accord and you are going to be in big trouble.
 

jfh

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Astute.

But that's been the case for many millenia. Even stories of primitive tribal healers. No one knows how to diagnose. I think that's why I liked Edgar Cayce. I think he knew how.

Mainstream doctors want you to diagnose yourself and then give them trigger words to put it together by the book. Natural doctors want to change your diet and wait a few months to see if it works. At least that has been the case with me. First, go gluten free for a few months. That didn't work? Well second, go meat free for the rest of your life. That didn't work? Well....

I haven't had any experience with Chinese Traditional Medicine other than trying medications on my own, but I feel that it would be a better system.

We will just keep trying.
 

maitaman

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I remember, back forty years ago, when Wendell Somebody died. He was in the neighborhood since I moved in, and was solidly despised. He had never done anything positive for anyone, was charged several times with animal cruelty, was suspected in child molestation cases, and was a brawler who made it plain he didn't want anything to do with anyone. He was as much a bigot as I had ever had the displeasure of encountering. He was physically as healthy as anyone I ever knew, also. He died peacefully in his sleep at 92 years of age. No one attended his funeral.

About four years ago a dedicated Buddhist friend who was solidly liked and respected for his reaching out to help anyone he could without judging anyone. It is what he is. He developed cancer of the liver. He consulted a specialist, who told him it was too advanced for treatment and was already spreading. He talked with me and took advice, the first, about a natural cure I was studying on the net. I made up a batch and he tried it. He is now in full remission.

You can see where I might be coming from about the karma stuff and about helping a person. It will be helpful if strongly believed in many cases. It will fail in others.

You can also see where I'm coming from about medical practitioners. They're just sales demonstrators for the big p(harm)aceutical companies.

There is no cure that works for everyone. There is no amount of karma in far too many cases I've noted in my 77 years.

I promote Artemisia, but never state it is an absolute fact that it will cure any individual of anything. It is a possible useful treatment in a given case. It is an herb known for millennia and is safe. My mantra is, "What do you have to lose?" It is proven against parasites, including malaria and leishmaniasis and is effective, when properly used, against many forms of cancer. It cured a lymphoma on my forehead in two weeks. It can cleanse the bloodstream of leukemia in a few hours. All this taken from peer reviewed studies.

Extremism in any subject is a turn-off. There is nothing that cures everything in everyone. That's unreasonably far out.
 

Living Food

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I remember, back forty years ago, when Wendell Somebody died. He was in the neighborhood since I moved in, and was solidly despised. He had never done anything positive for anyone, was charged several times with animal cruelty, was suspected in child molestation cases, and was a brawler who made it plain he didn't want anything to do with anyone. He was as much a bigot as I had ever had the displeasure of encountering. He was physically as healthy as anyone I ever knew, also. He died peacefully in his sleep at 92 years of age. No one attended his funeral.

About four years ago a dedicated Buddhist friend who was solidly liked and respected for his reaching out to help anyone he could without judging anyone. It is what he is. He developed cancer of the liver. He consulted a specialist, who told him it was too advanced for treatment and was already spreading. He talked with me and took advice, the first, about a natural cure I was studying on the net. I made up a batch and he tried it. He is now in full remission.

You can see where I might be coming from about the karma stuff and about helping a person. It will be helpful if strongly believed in many cases. It will fail in others.
There is no amount of karma in far too many cases I've noted in my 77 years.
That is a very understandable perspective. What we should keep in mind is that karmic relationships are a very complicated and nuanced issue - what about past lives? Who are we to think we can understand what should or should not happen to people based on their actions we can perceive? Only very spiritually advanced beings can understand such things accurately.

I did misspeak earlier in regards to saying that treating others is bad under any circumstance. There are certainly circumstances where it is beneficial and necessary. The key seems to be that the person is willing to take responsibility for themselves after the cure.

There is nothing that cures everything in everyone. That's unreasonably far out.
I agree 100%.
 


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