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Old 08-15-2008, 08:18 AM
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My friends has Hep C He has been on MMS for about 10 days up to 12 drop 2x a day. He went to the doctors and his numbers were up. Has anyone else had this experience and if so do you know why this would happen. Secondly if you did have this happen, did they go back down latter on. Thanks

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rken,

Yes, my numbers went up

also read expat's thread... https://www.natmedtalk.com/alternative-therapies/3298-negative-experience-mms-hep-c.html

negative experience with MMS/Hep C

if you haven't already.
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He is the friend i was talking about. He is very discouraged. i thought the number being up was due to the detox. Can you tell me about your experience. It might help him.
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:42 AM
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hi rken. I believe expat has read my other post... on page 40 of this thread, post #599.
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Hi view from here. This is usually the case when detoxing that the liver numbers go up.

What occurs, in part, in Hepatitis C is an over-responsive immune system directed against tissues normally seen as self. The presence of the HCV virus provokes humoral and cell-mediated immunity resulting in an autoimmune reaction directed against the liver and other glands, tissues and organs. The HCV infection literally becomes a part of the infected person's RNA (genetics). Once the HCV has become incorporated into the cells, the immune system does not distinguish it from our normal tissues. The detrimental effects begin when an invader such as the Hepatitis C virus enters normal tissues. These tissues now contain the proteins of the HCV virus. The body's immunoglobins direct themselves against the viral proteins. By this time the virus has incorporated itself into normal tissues such as the liver and lymphocytes or white blood cells. The infected tissue and its constituent proteins are now viewed by the body's immune system as foreign. The immune system believes that it is doing its job by destroying the viral proteins even at the expense of attacking the liver cells. MMS supercharges the immune system and as a result some infected kidney cell die raising the test levels. This is what i understand that happens.
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:52 PM
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Thanks rken. It seems likely that there would be a "detox" resulting in an increase in AST and ALT numbers. Will Expat continue with MMS?
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Hi Viewfromhear.

I'm not sure. He is pretty freaked out by the rise in number. He is pretty skeptical and there is a nurse that keeps giving him information. Some of which is not true. Such as NO human testing has been done. It has and in larger doses than we are taking and they showed no killing of liver cells in healthy people. So anyway. Its almost like he wants it to be a scam. Not sure. Alos found some where studies were done with cows and pigs which showed it did not harm good bacteria in the digestive track. I personaly feel much better.
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Here is a link to expat forem in thailand. MMS thread
https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Miracl...t-t200464.html
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Old 08-16-2008, 09:29 AM
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rken and expat,

I happened upon this documentary the other day, The Rick Simpson Story, and thought it might be of interest to you. Very interesting story and may be worth investigating as an alternative treatment for Hep C. The thing about Rick is that he wasn't selling his cure, he was giving it away.
here's the link... https://phoenixtears.ca/
The Documentary doesn't speak directly to help Hep C but I emailed him and asked if he knew of any success with Hep C... the reply was yes. I can send you that email if you like.

Please let me know if you find that this or any other treatment helps with the Hep C.

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Very interesting. I will pass it along to Expat. Thanks
I have heard that it has over fifty beneficial uses when taken internaly.
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Hi vfh

I was wondering if you could pass along his email address as I couln't find it. I was going to ask if he though bubble hash would have the same effect. Thanks rken
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rken, will do. check for PM.

let me know what you find out.

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Hi all, I'm thinking about taking MMS for my Rheumatoid ARthritis i've had for 10 years. I avoid drugs in favour of natural, but now my joints are very damaged and i'm getting sicker. I have an ulcer too from NSAIDs damage. Would MMS be ok to take with the ulcer, and would it upset my stomach further ? I'm hoping MMS will work for me otherwise i may have to resort to the drugs. Thanks...
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I have read that of the 3 types of arthritis 2 respond to MMS. The one that doesn't relates to tendons and muscle pulling that causes the joints to rub together. The other two seem to have something to do with our inmune system attacking our own tissue. I don't know itf I have arthritis but I have noticed i was increasingly getting pain in my hands like when opening a jar or using a wrench and the pains have cleared up. i also notice that my back pain seems to come and go depending on whether I'm taking mms. I'm am currently taking 10drops every other day. I would take small dosages more often until you see how your stomach reacts. I hope this helps
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Maybe this is not the correct section to post this too, but it does seem to be the most active. I originally posted on Health Salon, under Cardiovascular, but that area is very quiet. Below is what I posted.

"I am into week 3 of using MMS and although I said I wouldn’t go beyond 10 drops, I did. I felt as though nothing was happening. I still get angina. I went to 15 drops 3 times a day, no nausea and still nothing happened. I took a chance and went to 20 drops and felt nausea. I backed off to 18 drops 3 times a day, no nausea. Today 19 drops 3 times today, no nausea. I am about to go to bed. Tomorrow back to 20 drops and see what happens.
I am raising the drop count because I weigh in at 108 kilograms. If I get to 27 drops 3 times a day, I will know, as I have read somewhere else, that I have reached the amount required for a larger person."

I have been on 20 drops 3 times per day for4 days, no nausea, but loose stools. I shall keep this regime going for another 2 weeks and then go onto a maintenance dose. I also take 30 grams of ascorbic acid over a day. This is just below bowel tolerance for me. I include with this 2 grams of Lysine, a small amount of Taurine and Proline. This is my use of the Linus Pauling regime, which I have been on for at least 5 months. It's frustrating, but I still have angina. I can say more, but that will do for now.
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