At day 13 on MMS, I slowly worked myself up to 12 drops after having a setback [herx?] at day 8 and backed off to 8 drops and now back up to 12.
Yesterday i went into the hospital and got my 'mid term exam' [liver blood tests] and was disapointed to see an increase in my ALT/AST after 2 weeks. Where's my miracle??
before starting MMS 2 weeks ago, my AST was 63 and ALT 77 and ALK.PHOS.80....now ALT 69 and AST 99 and ALK.PHOS. 161. these increases are more than I have had over a several year period between testing in the past, and i have cut my alcohol down to one glass.day from 5.
I don't know exactly what this means and if these values vary day to day in normal humans, or affected by diet, sleep or maybe lab technicians or maybe detoxing??, but it does make me want to re-evaluate MMS as a 'miracle cure' for HEP-C.
Thanks Sheryl for suggesting that I get these tests. cost for the complete 'liver function' tests was around $30 and can be less if i specify only ALT/AST/ALK.PHOS.

Anyway, for me...it's time to back off from this MMS and hope that it didn't do me any permanent damage and will re-test in a month.

I strongly urge others to go to the effort to have baseline testing before starting this '[MAGIC] MIRACLE MINERAL SUPPLIMENT'. as well as during tx and especially after tx and share your experiences on this and other forums.

You owe it to yourselves and others that may follow you as well!! These undocumented testimonials of a cure for everything CAN DO HARM, IMHO. Again, I ask you all to DOCCUMENT your results for the benefit of all, especially before you post miracle recoveries!!

I think that I can honestly say that I was a good little gunea pig......
and I wish others the best of luck in their treatments, but beware of 'miracles', tooth ferry's and santa clause...they don't exist in the real adult world.

any educated or experienced comments, explinations or ideas why this happened would be appreciated.

ps,
I still have dandruff and a couple of sebacious cysts that haven't changed a bit.and my teeth are no different.

Just my experience.......

Thanks expat for sharing your experience.
I hope you will post your follow-up test results, post MMS, when you get them. It will be interesting to see if your ALT/AST go down.

Here is something I discovered yesterday, and I am wondering if you, or anyone here, has had any experience with this
https://www.hepatitis-central.com/mt/...ical_tria.html

Sho-saiko-to (SST), now in clinical trials.

I wish you all the best in your healing journey.

VFH

What would you expect in 13 days?

I can't believe that you'd make such a negative post like this about a product just because YOUR particular condition hasn't improved in a mere 13 days!

Your Liver tests are not terrific because you're a VERY SICK person and the MMS is busting all of the toxins and bad stuff loose which your LIVER must work hard to eliminate... (and you should cut your ALCOHOL consumption down to ZERO.. not I cup per day.. THAT is what's jacking up your LIVER!)

While there may not be any tooth fairies or Santa Clause in real life, for many of us (myself especially!) are alive and well today THANKS to the Miracle that is MMS!

Please don't ROB someone else of a possible healing because you're too IMPATIENT to properly test and evaluate a product before commenting on it!
Most Diseases take YEARS to make us sick.... and in some cases it may take months (or perhaps years) for the MMS to help us reclaim wellness.

By the way... it takes MONEY to post MEDICALLY documented treatment Protocols! Not all of us have money (like Big Pharm does). Just because I can't PROVE MMS cured my CANCER does not mean it didn't. And WHY would I post that MMS cured me of an advanced stage FOUR (terminal) CANCER when I benefit nothing from posting this fact? I own no stock or have any vested interests in MMS. I benefit nothing whether you take it or not or it cures you or not!

The reason I so strongly support MMS is because I know for a FACT it saved my Life, and I believe it will save the Lives of MILLIONS of others.. as long as the LIARS and naysayers stay out of the picture!

I know expat. He just freaked out. He later realized that he got his tests done at two different hospitals and they had different base number and the only his ALT Phos was a little higher. I sent him an email from another friend with hep C that reduced her viral load by 1/3 in just two months. Havn't heard back from expat yet. She took MMS for another 2 months and said

Here's what I found.

MMS kills. It doesn't heal.
I took it for 2 months.
It lowered my viral load by 1/3.
But 14-15 other results were out of whack.

I THEN took it and also made sure I took my supplements everyday.
It brought 6 tests back into normal range in a couple of months.
It also lowered my ALT and AST but both are still high.
My Alk Phos went down to 40, it was up to 48.
But my RBC was low for the first time.

My MPV went up to 13, and came down to 12.4, still high, but better. Down to 10.6 after 4 months off MMS.
MPV has to do with your platelets are all new. New ones are bigger.

Maybe someone else knows more about these numbers and what they mean. But she seems happy with the results.

Could not agree more Blonde. i emailed him and told him appoximately the samething that I thought it was unfair after using it for such a short time to write such a negative testimonial which could turn people off to something that might save there lives. There is a nurse on another forum that was really opposed to him taking mms and really got in his space. She is a mod and kick me off the forum for taking to people about MMS. Oh well its her Karma. Thanks for your post. what kind of cancer did you have and I'm happy to hear you beat it. Oh and also thanks for caring enought to post your reply.

She's right... MMS does 'not' heal... (only your own bodies' immune system is capable of healing) ... and it 'does' kill. It kills every pathogen known to Man.. be it viral, bacterial, and almost all fungal). Let me emphasize clearly however, that while MMS kills the 'bad' stuff and 'helps' your body heal itself by strengthening the immune system, "IF" your Liver is already shot... "IF" any other Organ has already been irreparably damaged, "IF" you're an ADVANCED terminal patient of 'any' diseases then it's possible you are 'too far gone' for even MMS to help. You can be 'damaged' by illness to the point of 'no return'... no Drug, nothing... (only God) can help you once you've arrived to that 'end-stage' of Disease. But! for the rest of us.... MMS is a Product to be considered... and respected... for it's tremendous ability to fight the 'nasties' that keep our immune systems tore down & weakened and open to the opportunistic diseases that eventually take us out!

Blonde I could not agree more. i cut and pasted you post in an email to expat this evening. I hope it has a positive effect with him.. as it reflects what I told him already. Keep up the good work. By the way expat and I live in thailand and I have access to sodium chlorite 80% technical grade for $45 dollars per 1/2lb. Should you or anyone else have need of it as I have noticed that Canada and Australia have just outlawed MMS. Take care and best wishes.

Thank you so much rken for making further contact with Him. I can certainly 'understand' why he would be lashing out... it's hard for 'healthy' people to understand the tremendous frustration & hopelessness that the seriously and/or terminally ill experience.
(It goes something like this ... )

As for the Nurse on the other Forum that you mentioned; I wish the traditional Medical establishment with their 'bias' would just restrain from commenting on a Product they know absolutely nothing about. You're right about her Karma.......
My Cancer started as a Squamous Cell Carcinoma of the Skin...but SCC is a "high fatality" Cancer that spreads like wildfire though the bloodstream (similar to Malignant Melanoma). MMS is great for combatting Cancers that travel through the Blood as it works in the bloodstream.

rken, I care very much about People kicking Diseases (especially Cancer) as I have a Mother who is a two-time Cancer Survivor and a little Sister who is an advanced (stage 3) Malignant Melanoma Cancer survivor. (She has been 'cancer free' for over thirty years now!)

What very few People realize rken is that you CAN live with Cancer (and other illnesses such as HIV and Hep C, Lupus and what have you .. you don't have to DIE from them! .... and while we may not be permitted to say this, there ARE Products you can take and even Foods you can eat that WILL allow your own Body to heal itself.

We need to move America out of the "Medical Trance" it's under and into true "Health & Wellness" through Education and 'boycott'. We need to educate People about the alternative Products that work and are available to them, and we need to 'boycott' the Medical Establishment that thinks the 'Sick Industry' is more profitable than the "Well" one.

I thank God for Forums & people like you who give me the 'ability' to share with others who (like me) who just want to get well & stay well.

Blonde

Not sure its possible to move america out of the medical trace. They are just to programed. I visited a HEP C medical forum site to ask a simple question about when using standard medical treatments for hep c what did the test numbers do. This was in an effort to figure out what was going on with expat. While at the site I made the mistake of doing a search for MMS and found one. It was a question from someone asking about MMS. I responded, first mistake, I was visciously attacked. I responded with links to all kinds of studies and facts that I have collected about sodium chlorite and tox studies, current medical uses, patents for medical products, second mistake, this was not from the mods but the forum users. Again I was visciously attacked. They did not read what i said or the links. They just went off on tangents that they pulled out of the air. It was the craziest thing I have ever experienced. I haven't been back which probably suits them fine. But as far as ever changing that mentallity I don't think so. So now I just try to share on sites that are a little more positive.

I live in Thailand and my goal is gather enough medical evidence of MMS effects to get it introduced into the prison system. I have given MMS to several Thai people with aids and were getting possitive results. so hopefuly with the next year I'll have enough medical evidance to give it a try. Its painfuly slow but worth the effort. In the meantime there are a few poor thai people that are getting well.

Im 57 this year and was beginning to feel every day of it, but with no major illnesses. I can't begin to tell people how much better I feel after using MMS it has been a blessing just to be rid of the small aches and pains, I can only imagine how you must feel. Well nice talking with you. take care of yourself. Im sure I'll run into you again.

I was very sick with swollen liver.
Took 1 drop a day for a week. Desperation, yes, and it was recommended by a friend.
Liver much reduced but big, sore pimple appeared in liver region of abdomen.
I'm backing off for a bit as my kidneys are very sore now as well as my galbladder (which was already sore). And I need to be sure it's not hurting any other parts of me.
I look forward to comparing some of my numbers.

mindme,

Liver is the major detoxifier of the body. When people use mms who have liver disease they are in for a particularly rough ride as MMS will start clearing toxins from all over the body and the liver has to deal with it.

That pimple is most likely a detox symtom due to liver overload.

You need detox that is for sure but I suggest that you find someone who understands detox and can help you through it.

One thing for sure, there are a lot of very strange liver diseases out there these days. Most are likely caused by chemical toxicity from exposures to products and sometimes the problems don't show up for quite a while. They (medical doctors) like to throw stuff into one bag called inflammatory response immune related. They like to tell folks that their body is turing on itself for unknown reasons, just like in arthirits and other immune diseases. Well, there are reasons for this, and they are known to the people who can think outside the box. Chemical exposure is the answer.

You may need to do a slower detox with herbs and radical diet purification for a time. Then try mms again. Look into castor oil packs over your liver.

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Just want everyone who has had negative experience with mms to know that it is possible for your body to experience what is called "healing crisis" during treatment. That is symptoms getting worse before it gets better. I had this experience but kept using mms until all symptoms of confirmed typhoid fever disappeared. Today I feel so much well and have continued with taking mms for maintenance reasons.

This is the Herxheimer Reaction.
Many people stop treatment when they experience this but it is important to continue through it.

I feel spectacular. Symptoms I've been living with for years and years are just dissappearing, 'poof!' - just like that.
This stuff is fricking amazing.

I got super tired - that was my 'herx' reaction. No nausea (I had that BEFORE I went on the ONE DROP of MMS a day), no diahrrea, just sleepiness.

I would be very surprised if the virus even exists in me anymore. I know the symptoms don't.

One more thing: if I'd have thought this stuff actually works (yes, I was dubious but desperate when I tried it) I'd have been drinking extra water at the same time to help flush out the crud it was killing, that's why my kidney was sore.

I solely signed up because of this guy. So here it goes:


YOU HAVE LIVER PROBLEMS AND YOU STILL DRINK!?!?! -_-

Look, nothing is healed in a short time. You need to do a few things.

1. Change your diet. Get rid of ; Gluten (breads & carbs in general) ; sugar (maybe fruit here and there) ; Bad oils and fats.

2. Eat raw veggies. TONS OF THEM ; of course everything in moderation.

3. Water water water. Get rid of your alcohol god damn it. No sodas or anything either.

4. Exercise. Yes, go for a walk.

These tips alone will help you a TON. MMS is only there for help. It is NOT a cure.