Blessings All,

My best friend, Pippa, almost 16 years young(or 112 in dog years), is on 4 drops of MMS 2 times daily; and is tolerating it without any problems. My question is while she is on the MMS can she also take bicarb of soda? I would really appreciate your advice.

Namaste,

rev

PS Pippa is a mongrel with 75% collie. She has never been ill until now, her lymphnodes are swollen. The ones near her throat concern me for obvious reasons. One of the lymphnodes has decreased in size, which is a relief, however your advice will be much appreciated.

Osho?

I have been receiving comments on healthsalon.org about using MMS and bicarb together. I do not have an opinion right now on this topic but I will come back in a while with the information that I do have. Apparently this person sending me info thinks its a good thing...

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Thanks for taking the time to respond, and I look forward to reading what your thoughts are on combining the two.

Namaste,

rev

You might want to keep them a couple hrs apart. The bicarb might prevent the MMS from forming the chlorine dioxide if taken together.

thanks for that! I was thinking along the same lines too!

Namaste,

rev

I still have not located the info on combining the two but according to their tests the bicarb did not affect the formation of chlorine dioxide... I'm still looking but haven't had much time as suddenly Im swamped with work

I appreciate your efforts Arrowwind09.

Namaste,

rev

Ok, I found the contact and asked them to resend the info to me.

Excellent! I look forward to reading the info.

Namaste,

Lenny

Hello Revzen, Good question about the bicarb's, and what concerns me is that your dog is experiencing some swelling in the neck area too.
Anyway, the chemistry of bicarbonates is negative charged ion's, [ HC03 ], which is a major buffer that helps to keep the pH [ acidity levels ], in balance with the equilibrium of dissolved Carbon Dioxide [ CO2 ]

When a healthy body becomes over-indulged with too high of levels of bicarbonate in the blood, the kidneys excrete it, and the lungs expells the CO2.

MMS helps to raise the pH levels of the body towards the [alkaline] side of the scales. Bicarbs deals with the opposite. [acidity]

Another point is there has been some medical associations with high levels of bicarbonate in patience with breathing problems..

Have you considered giving her digestive enzimes instead of bicarbs?

So the question comes... is giving your dog bicarbs good?

I can't honestly say for sure... as dog's are designed different than humans, they require more meat proteins, whereas humans functions better with veggies for good health. But both humans and animals respond to increased oxygen supply, such as exercise for good health. Oxygen counters illness within the body.

One thing that I think that I would do though, is avoid giving your dog MMS on a daily bases, because her body's needs are designed with different requirements, your dog needs to balance her natural system without having it pushed towards the oxidizing side too heavily.

Bicarbonate of soda is an alkali. The body adjusts a high pH by producing carbonic acid. Your hemoglobin and proteins form carbonic acid with the use of carbon dioxide.

The body has numerous redundant systems to keep your pH in check. You can overwhelm the process by supplying a lot of alkaline or acid agent. For example MMS and bicarbonate of soda together would tend to overwhelm the pH balance toward the high side. However the body will still be able to keep up with it - only slower than normal.

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Good that you caught this Jim, and you're right about the soda being alkali, thinking about the H2Co3 effect, typical of me to think about one thing and get it transposed. One thing that I was concerned about though, is the age and condition of the pet, the physical responsiveness of an aged dog verses how their antimony may respond, could very well be quiet different in responses than what a human's would be, so what might be thought of as tolerable, might become problematic with an animal.
Good point about the pH being pushed too far to one side, the alkalosis is something that I didn't think about, though I was considering the effect of the pH of the MMS alone, [that's why I suggested that it might be better to not give the pet MMS every day], or to consider the protocol being used of 4 drops, [which equals 100lb. of body weight protocol],
I could be wrong about this, but I would assume that a dog's nutritional system that is geared for meats etc.[high acid], might have a very low tolerance for continual functioning into the alkaline pH ? Whereas humans are basically designed to function more healthy on the alkaline's such as greens etc.
What's your take on this?

There is where we are very much alike.

Thanks for reminding me that the discussion is about a dog. You are right. The biology. Animals are able to create ascorbic acid (an acid). Human animals cannot. I wonder how any alkaline substance would be affected by the dog's immune system. I suspect MMS would have to work quickly before it is inhibited by the immune system.

Although alkalosis is very rare in a human, it does occur. That it is rare, says that the immune system, with its numerous mechanisms, can balance us very well. Is this true with a dog? Dogs have pretty incredible digestive systems. I once knew a dog that ate a sock. A few days later it passed completely through the digestive system and nearly intact. No kidding. I agree with you that the dosage should still be match to the weight.

It's true that I haven't seen much in the way of alkalinity in a dog's diet. In humans, the stomach acid is a protection against parasites in the food. At least as much as possible. It could be that the dog's acid diet is a protection as well. However, they do have a tendency to get the larger parasites, like worms. So maybe not. In humans, acid is so important for digestion and all throughout the digestion system. Without it, we would be overrun by bad bacteria. That's why we need friendly bacteria in our intestines. They produce lactic acid to dispel and kill the bad parasites. They do more, but that is very important. Acid kills parasites. That's why apple cider vinegar cures a boatload of problems, and coconut oil kills bad bacteria, and on and on. It is not good for humans to try to make their systems alkaline, except temporarily for some health protocols. Even then, it is important to keep those therapies away from our ingestion of food. Such as MMS. And the baking soda / molasses cancer cure. Time the therapy in such a way that food ingestion is separated. This should be the same with dogs. They have a certain pH to maintain as we do.

Dogs have a very strong stomach acid secretion. way stronger than humans..Thats why they can eat all the filth that they do and suffer no ill consequences generally. The poor diet that dogs eat with kibble will lend to more cases of worms. The first line of defense against parasites is HCL stomach secretions.

Most american dogs eat a diet high in carbohydrates.. with protien less that 17%. Which will make their body circulate more acidic toxins and is exemplified by the high rates of arthritis in middle aged and older dogs. Give them a higher protien diet and that can help decrease symtoms. They should in actuallity be eating almost 100 percent protien, and raw at that...

Also dogs generally manufacture up to 4gms of vitamin c a day so I wonder how that affects the use of mms?

There is a testimonial in the making at health salon right now about a woman who is using mms for her cat who has been quite ill. Seems she is making progress.. Sounds like the cat was about to die initially.