Yes it can last over 2 years.. it's kind of like an old Ibuprofen, hard to test the potency but it just seems to fade. As far as we seem to know. If you mix it, and it's not as potent, it should not create as strong chlorine dioxide gas. The smell will be diminished, as well as the color. Hope that helps. I've never had some long enough to find out.

Well. I have this bottle from 2007, that first fall when I discovered mms. Its still bright yellow and smells. I use that bottle only for brushing teeth. I think its working. My gum status went through a decline after my trip to Mexico, guess I didnt care for things as well on that trip.. MMS fixed it right up in a couple of days.

But on my first use of mms my citric acid went bad pretty quickly with white stuff floating in it. It hasn't happened since but I check it all the time, and often keep it in the fridge

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I would laugh long and hard at Jim Humble and his deluded dribblings - if it wasn't for the fact that some people might be gullible enough to buy into his gibberish. But even I have a hard time supressing a snicker at this "the FBI is out to get me!" bit. He must be even more desperate for attention than usual.

Bill, it is unfortunate for you that you feel this way. We have a number of people cured of some pretty serious stuff by MMS on this forum.

Jim would not be the first one knocked off for promoting MMS. Others have already, and others their lives ruined in court battles etc.

Your beliefs may someday keep you from the cure you or a loved one may need.

You might consider this possibility as well.

If anyone has been cured by this, more power to them. But excuse me I remain more than a little skeptical.

1. Bill, don't be ashamed of what you said! You are merely stating your opinion of this guy and his product! What's wrong with that? You aren't insulting anybody on the forum. Jim doesn't post here. You have a right to say what you think and if arrowind wants to debate (which is widely what forums are about) she will actually debate with you instead of telling you that you basically aren't welcome posting here...especially if she wants to keep the new members coming in!

2. I wouldn't want to take that crap either! You are drinking city water without the water!! I won't deny that people have been "cured" by it. But my question is, what is it really doing to your body? Also, this guy is just one guy who sounds as if he is just out to make money. Now add in the placebo effect. No offense to all you mms supporters, but it sounds to me like a cult thing. Don't insult me for making this post because...REALITY CHECK...people have something called "difference in opinion" and that needs to be respected! I respect your opinion on loving this crazy stuff...I just disagree. I wouldn't tell you that you don't belong on this forum. So don't be telling people who simply disagree with you not to be posting here!

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Consider: Ametures built the ark, Professionals built the Titanic!

What happened to this thread? Have IQ's dropped even more in the last week?

Thanks to the posters that do their homework and spend hours reading, without you this place would be like other places - ordinary.

Thanks!

But remember, ol Jim couldn't be in it for the money; haven't your heard, the natural/alternative guys are all noble and holy and blah etc. It's just the EVIL PHARM cult you have to watch out for!

I suppose you will be the type of that person you are and we know what that is here.

Interesting how you seem to think you speak for everyone on this site or that you know me at all. Both are clearly incorrect, FYI.

I am the type of person who doesn't believe something just because I want it to be true or it sounds all warm and fuzzy. To each their own.

Actually I do know most of the people on this forum fairly well having been communicating with them for over 4 years.

The type of advice you promote is not valued here much... as we have all come out of the school of severe illness and have recovered ourselves with alternative therapies.

We do not honor the American Cancer Society and we view hospitals and most physicians and the drugs and therapies they prescribe as agents of death.

You are merely a distracter and an antagonizer and you bring nothing of credit to back up your opinions that we would consider of value. If people want your kind of opinion they can go to any lame ball physician on any corner in America

That's because you're a fool living in a pathetic fantasy world.

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You are merely a distracter and an antagonizer

I am someone seeking to discuss medical issues and treatments and unlike you do not have my head buried in the sand and do not throw little tantrums any time someone dares to disagree with me.

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If people want your kind of opinion they can go to any lame ball physician on any corner in America

"Lame ball" - more childish insults. Surprise.

So you think each and every physician in America is worthless? Brilliant.

There's a difference between being skeptical and making a comment that includes the term 'deluded dribblings'. That comment seems to indicate some kind of anger, arrogance, fear, parroting the 'scientific' viewpoint and wanting to be a part of the intelligent informed, or a vested interest in discrediting, and probably a closed mind, whether or not any of these are actually true in your case. But the attitude comes from somewhere. If it's from concern that this product is hurting someone and your compassion is kicking in causing anger and fear it's not apparent in any of your comments that compassion is the cause.

If you truly are just skeptical you might look into it more in order to make an informed decision or if you have, then making some observations based on your research that we can have an informed discussion about.

For me personally, it's helped me tremendously when other things only helped somewhat and I would be hurt by the banning of this product.

You're right. A few of my comments were over the top. I have apologized once and do so once more. But I stand by gist of what I'm saying.

Then the fault in that regard is mine. I am indeed angry and frustrated when I see people believing in something which has no proven benefit or falling for snake oil salesmen who are out there in droves. It could cost them far more than money.

I already have. I read up on each and every one of these things when they are presented and not just from the web sites promoting or selling them, which frankly I suspect is more than I can say for some here. If sound, VERIFIABLE evidence is presented, I consider it to have validity. If not - for example, as is the case with MMS doing anything other than purifying water with nothing but claims that cannot be verified to back it up - I don't. If you decide to use a different strategy, to each their own. Certainly if you have used something and it worked, I would expect you to put stock in that most of all. It is not a valid or logical reason for me or anyone else to do so, however. PS that is not a criticism of you. If I said such-and-such product did all kinds of wonderful things for me, I would not expect that in itself to convince you in the slightest. In fact I would very much hope it would not.

Good for you. I mean that.

PS and oh by the way: this is from Humble's web site - emphasis mine:

"You need to know that MMS is for water purification only. Any other use is on you. While it is true that when Miracle Mineral Solution is activated, the chemical compound chlorine dioxide is produced, Miracle Mineral Solution is NOT chlorine dioxide. If your privately intended use for Miracle Mineral Solution is to activate it (i.e. convert it to chlorine dioxide) it is advised you thoroughly read all related material, consult a healthcare professional..."

How can it be made any clearer? Humble himself admitting it is only for water purification, and suggesting to consult a healthcare professional no less? Whoa! According to some on this site, that is horrible advice, as healthcare professionals are horrible, evil, all in on some grand nationwide conspiracy, etc etc etc.

In any event, thank you for a courteous and rational reply.

I am happy to know that your motivation is care for people being fooled and getting hurt and not arrogance against the 'alt med fools' and that you take the time to post.

There's always some people anywhere who don't do research. Some do find it more of a challenge than others, maybe they don't have time, and hope to read the research and discussions of others, thus these sites.

This site, I think, is a refuge for those who don't want to get into heated discussions because they had enough of that elsewhere and have already decided on alternative medicine and just want to talk about it. I think it's good to argue things sometimes but many here came from a forum with no moderator and they felt burned by all the fighting so don't want to get into that again and maybe view you as just another spreader of negativity and a fighter.

No, I have researched it and had a strong discussion with someone on another forum which was good because it forced me to do even more research than I had done. Our discussion was more in the line of showing that MMS was not harmful but it still broadened my understanding and strengthened my understanding that it's a good product.

It's only $20 for a bottle of MMS and while that may be a lot for some, for most it is inexpensive. Traditional medicine has insurance which muffles the high cost of care.

Most of alt med proponents are not against doctors or traditional care, we need it, we're just keen to the abuses of the system. The key and the challenge is finding a good doctor, whether traditional, alternative, or both. It's just that traditional doctors' hands are tied by a system that tells them how to practice medicine and is backed strongly by pharmaceutical companies, who, let's be honest, has their primary concern in making money and lots of it, not in helping people.

Alternative doctors are trying to break new ground which also can pose problems and some are abusing the trust of those who are searching for answers, or who themselves as doctors don't have the proper education. Either way, you have to be cautious. Recently in alt med there was a company strongly pushing probiotics to cure Candidiasis and many bought into it--though probiotics alone cannot cure Candidiasis they were presenting it as though it can, and it was recently found out that they were taking advantage of all these sick people, just trying to sell their product.

Personal experiences may not be scientific and certainly some may be untruthful, exaggerated or based on perception and misunderstanding but they do have some value that can't be completely disregarded. Especially when there are so many or they have doctors verifying them.

Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm very happy about it.

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Well, it's a disclaimer. Not that it has protected him...Though anything that has the ability to purify water without chemicals is worth looking into. That in itself is no small claim and is extremely valuable.

You're welcome. I thank you for yours.