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This post is about my precious dog, who is fed on a totally organic raw food diet. Routine bloodwork revealed a very high lipase (pancreas specific) 8 months ago - I managed to bring the level down by giving her huge doses of Wobenzym, as my Vet offered no satisfactory treatment and said that it could well be early stage cancer. Anyway, Wobenzym steadily brought the lipase level down to within normal range, but the last blood test showed it had shot back up to 14000, which was 3 times higher than what it was 8 months ago - she was still on the Wobenzym.

I did a live blood analysis course in San Diego a few years ago, just for personal interest, and I took a look at my dogs' blood a few days before starting her on MMS. I was horrified to see that covering her red blood cells, were mycoplasmas - I didn't see a single one that wasn't affected. I knew from blood work that her immune system wasn't functioning as it should either, and the white blood cells on the screen were inactive and few in number.
We began using the MMS starting slowly and building up over the past week. I rechecked her blood myself after 5 days on the stuff, and was gobsmacked to see that nearly all her red blood cells were now CLEAR of the mycoplasmas - there were just a few that were still affected. Also, her white blood cells were active (they are amazing to watch!!) and they had increased in numbers. I didn't have to look for these changes, they were right there in my face!
This is good news, as I am thinking maybe the elevated lipase is being caused by a bacteria laiden pancreas - who knows, but I have read a study where mycoplasmas have been found as the cause of pancreatitis in people.
My dog is asymptomatic for pancreatitis, but the lipase is definitely coming form her pancreas.
This is good news about the mycoplasmas. The other problem she has is that she is lame on her hind leg after getting up from resting. She was lame 8 months ago on the other hind leg which is what prompted me to ask for blood work as the lameness just didn't get better - this was when I found the lipase level to be too high. Anyway, on 27/7/09, she was very lame after resting on her right hind leg - at the same time as the lipase went up to 14, 000. Vet can't make sense of it, and no amount of acupuncture or chiropratic work has helped in the slightest. It has been suggested that she has arthritis or spondylitis/spodylosis, but for some reason, it doesn't add up to me. I Googled furiously yesterday and found that both spondylosis and arthritis can be caused by bacteria/viruses/ mycoplasmas, so in desperation to help her, we upped the dose of MMS yesterday and all last night I was giving it to her every 2 hours (and taking it myself - can't let her suffer alone)hoping that the limp might be caused by opportunistic bacteria/whatever that has taken hold near her spine. Even increasing the MMS to 10 doses in a 24 hour period and giving her more than the recommended amount for animals, she has not been sick (not that I want her too, I'm just so surprised that with all the mycoplasmas inside her, she hasn't felt ill - no diarrhea either). She is up to 7 activated drops every hour/two hours, with no ill effects - she only weighs 45 pounds. I'm sad to say that the limp is no better this morning - I read the info about viruses being harder to eradicate, so I thought I would give it a go last night and try and get the MMS to be inside her all the time. Should I keep going?

Six drops should be her top dose, but am I understanding the new protocol correctly , that if you dose every hour or two, then you will exceed the top dose in the previous protocol. Something is telling me to keep increasing until she feels sick then back off, but I don't know whether it's just desperation telling me to do that. Any help. advice, support would be much appreciated, this is a lonely job, and I love her to distraction - she is my soul mate.

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Have just found that my dog does indeed fell sick - but got her to eat some pureed apple. I shall back off on the dosing for now - maybe just do 3 doses today and see how she feels.
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Lyme disease is very common in my area, especially in Dogs. I would suspect Lyme could be involved with your Dogs symptoms, but that is easily diagnosed by most vets.

Interesting results.

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Hi Dan,

Thank you for taking the time to reply. I don't think it is Lyme disease - she doesn't have a fever or enlarged lymph nodes, and she's only lame after resting - it wears off quite soon. Her chiropractor made her scream in pain yesterday when she adjusted one particular area in her spine - and then she tried it again and my poor, poor dog screamed again. There's something wrong with her spine, and I was probably just clutching at straws thinking that since she definitely has/had a mycoplasma infection that they have set up camp in a weak point in her spine. I will know for sure whether the mycoplasmas were causing the elevated lipase when I take her back to the Vet for repeat bloodwork, which won't be for a while, as I really feel we have more work to do with the MMS.

I just got her out of her bed to have some lunch (no MMS since 9am) and I did think that she was much less lame than usual, but I guess it's me just wanting a miracle. Maybe since the problem has been there for a few months, even if the MMS did knock any infection on the head, it would perhaps take a bit of time to for her spine to recover? What do you think? I just keep thinking about the stories in the Ebook of people that were able to walk after using Clara's protocol - thinking logically, I doubt they were instantly dancing around like nymphs! I guess time will tell. I'd like to keep you posted if that's OK.
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What ever might be wrong with her to make her lame I would not expect to have results so quickly. If there is damage to the joint it will take some time to heal even if the microbes are gone.

I would also look at giving her fish oil, raw bones to chew and raw meat if you can for a while, and maybe glucosamine.

You are having remarkable results and the live blood analysis is most interesting. Thanks for posting your observations.
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Hi Arrowwind,
Thank you for replying.
My dog has always been fed a totally organic, bones and raw food diet, with top quality supplements, which include 2g fish oil each day, Immunopro RX (to help with heavy metal detox and to increase glutathione production), liver specific supplements, and multi min/vit, along with powdered barley grass (which she absolutely adores), fresh ground flax seed, MSM ... I have researched the 'best' immune supplements and she was taking Transfer Point Beta Glucan, but despite all the good things I read about it, it just didn't do anything for her immune system - maybe you have to clear all the bacteria etc form your system before these things will really work, I don't know. I only give her mineral water from glass bottles to drink, although at the moment, we are drinking distilled water. Maybe with everything I've tried to do for her nutrionally over the years has had some impact - maybe she'd have been really poorly a lot sooner than this if she'd have been fed commercial dog 'food'.

Thanks for your comments about her spine having to heal even if microbes are dead - I guess that they would cause damage... you see I just don't know, and I have no-one to ask, I suppose it's just trial and error. One thing I do know is that when my other dog, who sadly died two yeas ago was diagnosed with splenic hemangiosaroma, when I examined her blood using Darkfield microscopy (live blood analysis) she had the same mycoplamsas covering all of her red blood cells as well, but I didn't know what to do - sadly I got sucked into the Zeolite 'protocol' with a lot of hard sell and guilt from the person selling it to me, and with absolutely zero results.

I will keep the faith and keep shoving MMS down her - I'm thinking that the through the night idea is a good one again for tonight. If there is any chance that the MMS will stop this, whatever it is, then I'd like it stopped as soon as possible. At least at night it's totally away from food - although I do give her 6 wafer thin slices of banana to help push the capsules down her throat - I hope that doesn't interfere with the MMS.

Thanks again.
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Many years ago in another life, I used to sell a product called Bioflow Magnetic Collars for dogs who had mainly spine and hip problems. They came with a 90 day money back guarantee, but during the whole time I was selling them nobody ever claimed their money back because they were so successful.

The Bioflow was not the common or garden static magnetic field type of magnet, but had a patented method of producing a pulsed magnetic field.
Pulsed magnetic field equipment is used regulary used in hospitals for human patients with spine problems.

There was also models for cats and horses who had gone lame which were equally successful. I even remember one man who bought one for his pet duck who had gone lame, which appeared to work and it was soon running around quacking its head off after a few days.

Might be worth a shot as you can get your money back if your not happy.

https://www.magnetsforall.com/site/1346576/page/832262

BTW I no longer have any financial interest in Bioflow or this company.
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Hi Liverock,

Thank you for your suggestion. I did use a Bioflow collar on my other dog a few years ago, but the casing holding the magnet just fell apart! I also used to wear one of the wrist magnets and never noticed any benefit. It is something that I briefly considered a few weeks ago, but you have brought it to the fore front of my mind, so I shall give it some more thought. At the moment though I think I want to really find the cause of the problem and treat that, hence the diligence with the absolutely foul and revolting MMS - the mere smell of it now makes me shudder! If it does the job though - who cares?!

Thanks again for your suggestion.
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I can also suggest that you look at this site including their testimonials.
this following product is a weaker solution of sodium chlorite and they have pretty good results even without activation. Remember, Jim Humble cured malaria with a product just like this, unactivated, but I think he gave the whole bottle. Thats what started it all.

https://www.nzymes.com/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=17

So I give my dog unactivated mms frequently 6 drops in his water bowl. He never gets sick from it. He just plain never gets sick.. and you don't have to deal with the activation process and the smell. It might be a good maintenance program for him

I think it is interesting that both dogs had the same problem in the blood. So could it be contageous, or a result of a similar diet? Did you see the same thing in your blood? Some alternative docs swear we carry the same parasites that our pets do...like Hulda Clark.
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Knowing what I do now, I would absolutely say that the mycoplasma is contagious, but on the other hand, it did concern me that as every species of living creature can have mycoplasmas, and my dogs eat raw chicken, beef, mutton and offal, did it come from meat? I did stop giving her raw meat when we started the MMS last Tuesday, in an attempt to try and get the existing problem under control without adding (potentially) extra mycoplasma. I started her back on it today, as she just couldn't manage without her correct nutrition any longer, so we are taking our chances.
Thanks for the other info about the weaker type of MMS - it's good to know, but for now, I think we will just continue using the activated. She still hasn't been sick or had the trots, so this is good. We're in for another long night. Wish us luck!
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bluecroft,

I don't know much about treating animals but for humans many hard-to-get-at illnesses hide at the base and top of the spine. Funneling ozone in that area is very effective for many things that are otherwise hard to treat for humans, or so I am told. It needs to be from a medicinal ozone generator that uses oxygen, not room air. They are expensive to buy but there are doctors that use ozone therapy too. Arrow knows a good source for generators. You can do a Google search on it. I looked some but ran out of time.

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