you may have come across these sites already. I think you will be an expert on this conditon before you are through
https://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...ai_2603000344/

https://epididymitiscure.com/what.html

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Had him to sick kids in Toronto for 4 days of testing. The result was a quack, sorry but he is, said it is all in his head and suggested pain management. He gave it a stupid name like 'unknown cause syndrome' or something like that.

I don't buy it. If he has pain there is something causing it. We may not know what but it's not just all in his head. It flared up at puberty at 13 years old so my guess is that it is related. The fact that it has moved from the epididymis to the scrotum and the abdomen should be a clue but I don't understand the anatomy well enough to figure it out. It may be nerve damage from the antibiotics for all I know. The second one he was on is black-boxed for causing tendon degeneration but that is supposed to be a future side effect not an immediate side effect.

The Epdiical is for epididymitis so I don't have any idea if it will work now that the pain locations have moved.

The epdiical site wanted a credit card for a PayPal transaction so I couldn't get it. It takes 5 to 8 days to approve a bank deposit in PayPal so we have to wait to make the order. I am shifting to plan 'g' as soon as I figure out what it is.

Interestingly I was out cutting firewood with a chainsaw a week ago and the chain caught a 2 inch round log and threw it at my calf muscle giving me a nasty bruise. Now I am up all night in pain, too. Fortunately I know what caused mine and it will go away in 3 or 4 weeks.

What do the lumps or nodules mean? I have had one on my right testicle since childhood as well as a lot of these symptoms. I was never able to get the bottom of it.

Update.
Nothing we have tried is working at all.
Today we are going to see a good chiropractor who has the latest equipment for measuring nerve damage. My other son has had a sore neck for over a year. We took him in yesterday and he woke up this morning free of pain. The Dr explained how the system works and said he would check Daniel out today. I will post any results.

So the herbal preparation didn't work?

I met a woman once who was incontinent of urine, in her early 40's. She wore a catheter everywhere. Nothing else was wrong. She went to a chiropractor and after a few treatments she was continent again.... so you never know. We are keeping our fingers crossed for your son.

I have it all and have been going to medical doctors for three years. Gave up on them when they said they have nothing for me and that it was all in my head. I really think that the antibiotics just made the condition worse then better. Started on MMS and could feel something happening with a healing crisis. The pain in legs started to get real sore. My head started to feel strange as if something was being stirred up in there. My first days dose I kept going to the bathroom. If none of this happened to you or your son I would say that your mms was bad and was not working as it should have been. I am still using the mms even though I really hate the taste I figure for two weeks what do I have to loose but this pain if it works. I will not stop taking the mms even after the two weeks because I know that these critters can sneak back in if given the chance. This is about the only thing that is out there right now that I have heard that stands a chance of really doing something and if it doesn't I will look for a way out of this pain. I will keep you posted or you can email me so I will not forget to come back and post.

Well I am back and the MMS did not work out as I was hoping it to. I am trying out cordyceps and rubbing the essential oil of geranium onto the scrotum. Seems as if I am getting some pain relief with this treatment. I have only been doing it for about a week. I will give it a month. I am taking six capsules of the cordyceps throughout the day. Also taking a tablespoon of spiralina alge in the morning. Don't know if I don't keep trying something. I was told that I have orchitis from suppressed gonorrhea. I know that your son doesn't have this but the pain is still pain and it is in the same general area. Will come back when I see some better results.

You might want to try to find a nautropath that does IV colloidal silver. What ever it may be you need some very expert help in the alternative realms may be called for.

https://natural-immunogenics.com/pdf/...3_brochure.pdf

https://www.holtorfmed.com/

Just to let you know that I did go to an alternative doctor in Ocala Florida and he told me to take a dose of MMS 8,10,12 drops for three days each week for three weeks. He said if that didn't work to come back to him and he will do a back adjustment to see if that will help. I have no health insurance either and have been out of work for three years. No one seems to have a following that have been helped with this condition. So I am no better off going to them then what I am doing right now by searching the net for someone that might have a cure. Point me to someone that has a following of being cured of this and I will jump at it. Thanks for your concern. It is "very much appreciated".

I wonder why that doctor told you that protocol. It is not the recommended protocol by Jim Humble and if you visit his website he explains exactly why he promotes the protocol that he does... www.jimhumble.biz

You do not take an antibioitic for 3 days on and 4 days off either. Nor should you with mms. You will likely cure nothing with this protocol as microbes have life cycles that need to be covered.

Yes and I understand also what you are saying about the doseage. He also has an MD's degree. Thier mentality is if one thing doesn't work try something else just to keep the income flowing. I think some of these alternative doctors are hurting also in the bad economy and they have built up a rich lifestyle in the past. One must be very careful out there today because there are those that will take advantage of those that are looking for help from pain.

any updates ecogenie or cwhjr?

Have also been trying cell salts and belladonna for inflammation and what could be an abscess in the scrotum somewhere from the long time it being there. Remember I am not a doctor but from going to many of them with no results that isn't saying much. I have found out that if I wait around and just listen to doctors that I will end up dying. When using essential oils you must use a carrier oil and never use the essential oil straight. Do a search on how to use these treatments. Key in the words essentail oil and orchitis and maybe suppressed gonorrhea and essential oil or cell salts. Not saying gonorrhea is the cause but from what I have read if a parent has had gonorrhea in the past that it could be passed onto thier children even though it was "cured". But, really just sent deeper into the body with the use of antibiotics. Hope this info is of some help.