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Default Maganese for Joints Cracking

Lately my joints have been cracking a lot. My ankles, I can voluntarily pop them 10 times a day.. my elbows pop too. This started about 3 months ago... and I had no clue why. No pain or anything....just crack crack crack all day long

I went to a new chiropractor and Naturopathic Medical Doctor yesterday for chiropractic service... I think I have finely found another master of chiropractic. He is also an expert at treating Lyme disease. He gives an ace adjustment.

When I told him about my joints he said it was likely a maganese deficiency. He says that a shortage can make the ligaments too stretchy and loose. He prescibed Standard Process Maganese, two tabs in am and pm with meals.

Will let you know how it goes, and I also now need to figure out why I have become deficient in this mineral
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A high intake of iron, magnesium, and/or calcium can cause manganese to be inhibited (unabsorbed, not bioavailable) by the body. Many metals work that way. It is sometimes difficult to keep the minerals in balance. Deficiency does cause weakness in ligaments and tendons, which is your case.

Most of the manganese is stored in the liver, kidneys, and bones. If you detox a lot, you could become deficient.

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Nutrient interactions
Iron
Although the specific mechanisms for manganese absorption and transport have not been determined, some evidence suggests that iron and manganese can share common absorption and transport pathways (10). Absorption of manganese from a meal decreases as the meal's iron content increases (7). Iron supplementation (60 mg/day for four months) was associated with decreased blood manganese levels and decreased MnSOD activity in white blood cells, indicating a reduction in manganese nutritional status (11). Additionally, an individual's iron status can affect manganese bioavailability. Intestinal absorption of manganese is increased during iron deficiency, and increased iron stores (ferritin levels) are associated with decreased manganese absorption (12). Men generally absorb less manganese than women; this may be related to the fact that men usually have higher iron stores than women (13). Further, iron deficiency has been shown to increase the risk of manganese accumulation in the brain (14).
Magnesium
Supplemental magnesium (200 mg/day) has been shown to slightly decrease manganese bioavailability in healthy adults, either by decreasing manganese absorption or by increasing its excretion (15).
Calcium
In one set of studies, supplemental calcium (500 mg/day) slightly decreased manganese bioavailability in healthy adults. As a source of calcium, milk had the least effect, while calcium carbonate and calcium phosphate had the greatest effect (15). Several other studies have found minimal effects of supplemental calcium on manganese metabolism (16).

https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocente...als/manganese/
Only a small amount of this trace mineral is required, so I suspect the malabsorption is caused by the interaction of those 3 elements.
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For manganese, eat chick peas (garbanzo beans). Hummus works nicely.
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