07-08-2010, 06:57 AM
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Colon Cancer
Hello all, first time poster here. Yesterday I underwent a colonoscopy. This was advised because of age (57) and that I had been having blood in my bowel movements, although it was very sporadic over about the last three months. The colonoscopy showed no polyps but there was a small tumor that the doctor said created a lot of bleeding when they got to it. He biopsied it and I am awaiting results. Of course, he went right to the bowel resection talk.
My questions are; is there a natural way to get rid of this tumor? Have any of you had a bowel/colon resection? What if I do nothing at all about it?
I am very healthy! I have been following the Fit for Life diet for quite some time. I exercise regularly, etc. My biggest liability is that I'm adopted so I am making my family history as I go.
Thank you for your time!
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07-08-2010, 07:38 AM
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My best advice to you is to have the resection if it is cancer. Success rates are pretty high these days if the cancer is localized. An early diagnosis is the key.
Even before the surgery I would start right away doing MMS enemas and orally.
see our MMS subforum under Alterntive therapies and visit www.jimhumble.biz
I would also ask for some blood work to see if they can get for you a base line of cancer antigen before the surgery. That may be helpful on tracking progress as time goes by.
Eat lots fo broccoli and cauliflower and get these in powdered supplement form too. A predominately raw food diet with lots of fresh made juices is called for.
Ask for your vitamen D3 levels to be checked then supplement to bring them up to 70 to 100. Do this as soon as you can. If you search this forum you will find many articles and studies to support this. Naturopaths are recommending very high levels for people with cancer. You can purchase Biotec Brand Vit D3 at www.iherb.com I have verified that this is a potent product. Get a bottle of 50,000 IU and a bottle of 5,000. take the 50 3xd for 3 days then once a day for a week. then 10,000 for 2 weeks then get down to 5,000 for a week and get your level rechecked. continue at 5,000 for 4 or 5 weeks then get rechecked. Some people need to take 50,000 pill once or twice a month. Dont get checked just after taking one of them. Always after beeing on the 5,000 for at least two weeks. Some people need to take 10,000 daily to keep a high level. So you will have to experiment with it.
Also do a search her on ioidne therapy. You will need this also as long as you are not allergice to iodine. A very few people are.
Im sure more good ideas will pop up here
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07-08-2010, 11:15 AM
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You need to go here https://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...d-obesity.aspx and read Dr. Mercola's comments and also watch the video from Dr. William Li. You will learn all about anti-angiogenesis which means cutting off the blood supply to cancers. Nature provides the answer. Fresh vegetables are great. Dr. Mercola has a list of antiogenetic foods in the above link.
I do not recommend surgery it's just a way for doctors to pay for their yachts. Starving the cancer is the answer. Another thing to keep in mind is that cancer is a systemic disease not a local one. Cutting out one does not stop the others from growing.
Also go on Doug Kaufmann's phase one diet. https://www.knowthecause.com/Home/tabid/36/Default.aspx . Look for the phase one diet banner. Essentially it is a zero carb diet which will starve the cancer as cancer depends on sugar to survive and grow. Carbs provide that sugar.
Also in his book Rich man's poor man's cancer cure Dr. Mark Sircus recommends an eighth of a tsp of baking soda in half a glass of water and drink it. Do this several times a day.
This time of year vitamin D can be got from the sun for free. Just expose some skin to the sun between 10 and 2 each day and you will make 20,000 iu in that time. Also you cannot overdose as you will not make more than the body can handle. 20 minutes a day should do it.
One last thing - did you ever have root canals work done on your teeth?
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07-08-2010, 11:49 PM
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Vitamin D and the ColonPlease read and try to understand this blog post.
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All modern disease is based on one simple issue - inflammation. One of the main proteins of inflammation is NF-kB - which I have written about many times. The level of activity of NF-kB is decreased with green tea, anthocyanins (like blueberries), resveratrol, omega 3 fatty acid, curcumin (curry), cacao, coffee......and yes.....Vitamin D.
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curcumin, gamma-tocotrienol, and omega 3 all may be working by activating the Vitamin D Receptor so are actively assisting vitamin D.
If you find it interesting you may also want to go back to the an earlier lecture about theory Loren Cordain discussing Tight Junctions and autoimmunity in MS this is quite a long detailed presentation so allow over half an hour.
And here is Cedric Garland explaining how tight junctions may prevent the opportunity for cancer to develop.
How Vitamin D Reduces Incidence of Cancer: DINOMIT Model this lasts about 15mins.
If you want to understand the science behind athletic dept recommendation to starve the cancer by reducing cancer's main food supply this paper sets it out in detail.
Cancer as a metabolic disease
Mark Sircus and more on the magnesium and bicarbonate link
Recipe for Magnesium/Bicarbonate Water
I like this way of making magnesium bicarbonate water. It's changed my urine acidity from being too acidic 5 or below to now being 6.5,
If you want to do it Mark Sircus's way then
Magnesium chloride sources Sodium bicarbonate is cheap from the supermarket. ARM & HAMMER� Baking Soda
these are the Vit d 5000iu I use Code WAB666 saves $5 at iherb.
I can't find Biotech 50,000iu at IHERB but you can find them online if you search.
While I agree that you should also try to get as much sun (without burning) as possible to raise vitamin D status, if you live in a town or city with a polluted atmosphere you may not be getting sufficient UVB at ground level and if you've been taking statins or eating a cholesterol lowering diet you may not have sufficient cholesterol in your skin. Vitamin D is made through the action of UVB on cholesterol in the skin, Low UVB (atmospheric ozone blocks it) and low cholestrol levels may make total reliance on sun unreliable as a sole source of vitamin D. Cover your options and use BOTH sun and supplements.
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07-09-2010, 08:58 AM
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You already have some excellent advice here - maybe I might just add a little:
If you get a positive diagnosis, it is critical you don't transition your identity to "I am a cancer patient" - maintain the "I am healthy" position - it's just that you have been diagnosed - ask what percentage cells were actually malignant. You may well be put under pressure to have surgery - get a 2nd opinion first - play for a bit of time while the recommended measures "kick in".
If these do not help, I would consider Low Dose Naltrexone - I won't put a link in here - easy to find lots of information. Cancer is classified as an autoimmune disorder, and there are some interesting cases of cures with LDN.
Although this isn't in the spirit of natural medicine, it's maybe the next best thing - think of it as first aid. Vitamin D3 and its synergists are the maintenance programme - and supplementing may seem unnatural too - but we migrated away from the equator!!
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07-09-2010, 11:04 AM
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I would also add that you check out this site and use their oral products that seem applicable. I would look at their liver product and their bowel product. It is also a source for Lugols iodine. Purchase the 15% bottle and dilute it 50/50 for a 7% solution, and also and probably most important, their Amazon Tonic, formerly Cansema tonic
www.altcancer.com
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07-09-2010, 01:17 PM
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Oasis of Hope, the famous cancer hospital in Mexico, now has a hospital in California
https://www.oasisofhope.com/oasis_california.php
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07-09-2010, 02:06 PM
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Vern, the now famous guy who cured his stage IV prostate cancer with sodium bicarb stopped by HealthSalon today and left this message. This is a treatment you could do tommy before surgery. Hold the surgery for 1 month and do this treatment. Then get another colonscopy to see how you did. If it has gotten smaller, if it has stopped bleeding you may not want the surgery at all but to continue with the bicarb. Verns site noted below tells you exactly how to do it. He did it orally and cured his severe prostate cancer that had moved into the bone
Some asked if their was anyone adminstering the bicarbonate injections in the US. I have tried to verify that this Naturopath in Eugene, Oregon https://clinicofnaturalmedicine.com/About_Us.html took in a patient with lung cancer.
The patient, from what I understand, was down to 87 pounds. From what someone told me was that she was stimulted to seek a baking soda solution after reading www.phkillscancer.com, or at the very least someone told her about bicarbonate who was familiar with the site.
Long story short, she recovered. And one of the Cancer Research Centers in Texas flew her to their facility to verify, check out, or whatever a research center does when something 'unusual' happens. I also understand that the patient was doing self injections after it was apparent that recovery was on its way. Bare in mind, that I have tried to verify this, but so far with no success. . . Vito Vernon at www.phkillscancer.com
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07-11-2010, 02:27 PM
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WOW!
I am a bit overwhelmed by all the good ideas that I have received through this forum and also humbled and grateful for the response. I know that each of you are sharing on your valuable time and experience. Thank you.
There are questions that I have concerning some of the ideas. I have been taking Vit D for a long time as I am a big fan of Joseph Mercola. My maintenance was about 2k a day. I have since upped this because of the recommedations to 6k a day. I tried to go higher, but felt a bit weird. It seems that 4k at a time is a bit too much to absorb. This week I will ask my GP to test my Vit D levels.
The recommedation to get blood work and I also added a PET scan was excellent. I am having those tomorrow; although they are going through the original surgeon so I hope in a quantum way that the results won't prove to him what he is already looking for-if you know what I mean.
I have been a moderate MMS user for about a year now. I did up the amount of times that I am taking it though since the diagnosis to 2 drops three times a day. I have also upped/added turmeric and neem into my daily regimen. Can someone explain the reasoning and protocol behind a MMS enema though?
The baking soda idea is unique but logical. For the longest time (when I would actually test) I was always more alkaline than acidic. I notice now that I have been shifting back and forth during the day. I tried a teaspoon of baking soda and I thought I would blow up! Also, molasses is very acidic inside the body (it is a sugar).
Thanks to mindmt for this "If you get a positive diagnosis, it is critical you don't transition your identity to "I am a cancer patient" - maintain the "I am healthy" position - it's just that you have been diagnosed - ask what percentage cells were actually malignant. You may well be put under pressure to have surgery - get a 2nd opinion first - play for a bit of time while the recommended measures "kick in"." I did feel a bit of pressure and I have found another surgeon to get a second opinion from. I have also called my chiropractor (who is a very strange and smart dr), and my GP who is holistic; to have them request all the tests so far to review. I wish that the second opinion could be based on a fresh slate though rather than one surgeon confirming the analysis of another.
Forgive such a long post as I'm sure you all have better things to do. However, I am deeply appreciative of your time and suggestions.
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07-11-2010, 07:09 PM
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Tommyh, I don't have any suggestions from experience. I have a relative that was diagnosed with colon cancer, and had a section of his colon removed. After that he needed an operation for prostate cancer, and then he had a cancerous tumor on his liver. They successfully treated that tumor with Cyber Knife treatments, now he's going to need hernia surgeries created by the build-up of fluids in his stomach (Ascites).
I'm happy that you're seeking alternative treatments for your possible cancer. Hopefully, with being pro-active and keeping a positive attitude you'll have good success in keeping your health. The folks here are very helpful and knowledgeable, you're in good company.
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07-14-2010, 08:30 AM
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Colon "cancer" update
Today I met with the surgeon that performed my colonoscopy and found something about the size of a half dollar in my colon that was sent to the pathologist; and determined to have cancerous cells in it.
At the suggestions of forum members, I requested a blood test (which was perfect and showed nothing); and a PET scan; which showed that the problem area was "localized," meaning that the rest of me appeared clear. While this is good news; it is all the more confusing since the surgeon still wants to remove the "something" and about 12 inches of my colon and lymph nodes. He could not answer the question of what percentage of the cells were malignant. He warns of it spreading to my lymphatic system and then going to my liver although he could not provide me with any information concering monitoring or testing to see if that has or could happen. I was suprised that he did not have grill marks on him after all the questions that I asked. I could tell though that questions about nutrition and alternative therapies were not part of his study as he is a board certified surgeon. When the subject of sugar feeding cancer was brought up; he had no opinion. That is interesting to me since a PET scan involves fasting then being injected with glucose and that makes the cancer cells light up.
I'm probably more confused now than ever before. The doctor is being honest with me based on his own experience; therefore he is giving me the information that the mainstream medical community dispenses.
Do these things actually go away at some point with proper diet and alternative therapies; or am I just slowing the progression and will still have to undergo the surgery?
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07-14-2010, 11:41 AM
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There are some pictures here that may help you visualize what the surgeon was talking about
Bear in mind what The Vitamin d Council have to say about colon cancer
If you have colon cancer, please remember that vitamin D is not a cure-all and should never be used as a main treatment for cancer. Your oncologist will prescribe treatment that has proven efficacy and you should carefully follow their advice as the mainstay of treatment. At the same time, you should know that evidence suggests that the proper amount of vitamin D will help you in your fight against colon cancer.
I don't regard using Vitamin D, omega 3, magnesium as ALTERNATIVE medical treatments but SUPPLEMENTARY additions to conventional treatment to help what the doctors are doing work better.
If I were in your position I would go ahead with the surgery but IMMEDIATELY I would be raising my 25(OH)D, status to 80~100ng/ml with 50,000iu/daily D3 for the next 8 weeks then drop down to average 10,000iu/daily.
I'd also take plenty of omega 3 and reduce omega 6 intake. I'd be trying to eat a ketogenic diet (no sugar or refined carbohydrates) and be getting as much exercise as possible while restricting calorie intake.
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07-30-2010, 01:44 AM
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Remember Ted's link to WebMD is only for info - NOT advice! IMHO the advice to follow a low-fat diet is laughable.
I hate to step into this and add confusion, but now the diagnosis is done - in your shoes, I would be getting myself on Low Dose Naltrexone pronto. The surgery question is really tough, but I wouldn't be inclined to go for it on impulse - tell your surgeon what you intend to do, and ask if the the progress can be monitored before you opt for surgery. There is a lot of info on LDN, and he may have heard of it - there are accounts of cures from "terminal" metastatic cancers with LDN. Of particular note, Dr Burton M. Berkson, using LDN in combination with alpha lipoic acid. (I certainly would never entertain chemo - other than LDN - but this isn't chemo - it works by boosting endorphin levels more than X3)
Other than that, Ted's advice is spot on.
I'm not playing with your life, make your choices and remember you are not fighting a disease, but restoring balance. Best wishes...
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07-30-2010, 02:31 AM
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I agree with that.
The link was really to the photo's so people could have a visual idea of what doctors were talking about when describing what was going on.
Certainly I agree a "low fat" diet will only make matters worse. I think intermittent fasting and the use of coconut oil or Medium Chain Triglyeride oil to encourage ketone production will almost certainly assist recovery and/or slow cancer progression. The problem with a low fat diet is it almost inevitably leads to higher carbohydrate consumption (low fat foods increase sugar/hfcs levels to make tasteless food palatable) so by increasing fat content (butter, lard, coconut oil, olive oil) the food satiates so you don't eat so much.
Cancer as a metabolic disease should be required reading for all those treating cancer.
If you find the early sections hard going then skip to the end section from Implications of the hypothesis to cancer management
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07-30-2010, 03:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ted_Hutchinson
I agree with that.
The link was really to the photo's so people could have a visual idea of what doctors were talking about when describing what was going on.
Certainly I agree a "low fat" diet will only make matters worse. I think intermittent fasting and the use of coconut oil or Medium Chain Triglyeride oil to encourage ketone production will almost certainly assist recovery and/or slow cancer progression. The problem with a low fat diet is it almost inevitably leads to higher carbohydrate consumption (low fat foods increase sugar/hfcs levels to make tasteless food palatable) so by increasing fat content (butter, lard, coconut oil, olive oil) the food satiates so you don't eat so much.
Cancer as a metabolic disease should be required reading for all those treating cancer.
If you find the early sections hard going then skip to the end section from Implications of the hypothesis to cancer management
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Ted - no criticism intended - just a caution on not absorbing all of WebMD's advice. You DID say it was for the pictures..
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