My 4 year old has 3 swollen toes. They've been that way since she was 1 years\ old. A chiropractor said she has an autoimmune disease. An acupuncturist said she was malnourished. A hemotologist said she has low ATP, low B12, candida and leaky gut. A kinesiologist said she had food allergies. A naturopath said she had leaky gut and wanted to test for heavy metals.
The current protocol she is on consists of:
1 oz. aloe vera 2x a day first and last thing each day
grapefruit seed extract 10 drops 1x a day
PB8 probiotics 1x a day
papaya digestive enzyme with each meal
2 drops hydrochloric acid with each meal
colloidal minerals in her drinking water
B12 liposomal supplement
She eats nothing processed.
Her swelling is not going away. It clearly is arthritis.
I don't know what else to do. The hematologist who we are working with says it could take a year but what if his protocol isn't right? A year wasted and more time for her growing body to multiply dysfunctional cells.
Does his protocol cover everything you can think of? THANKS SO MUCH FOR ANY THOUGHTS, IDEAS, OR INSPIRATIONS!!!!
A chiropractor said she has an autoimmune disease.
If this is true, and that is a big if, it is most likely related to vaccines. You vaccinate your kids to protect them, but they end up doing more harm than good, and I have seen absolutely no evidence that they are either safe or effective.
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An acupuncturist said she was malnourished.
Most people are over fed and under nourished, however, if your daughter eats nothing processed, gets colloidal minerals, and lots of veggies and fruit, she should be getting enough nutrients.
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A hemotologist said she has low ATP, low B12, candida and leaky gut.
This I would believe. She should be on a phase one diet for a month or two. That means no grains, no simple sugars, no dairy, and no fruit juices.
Candida and leaky gut are one and the same, caused by fungus. The above restrictions should starve the fungi.
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A kinesiologist said she had food allergies.
All the more reason for the phase one diet, especially eliminating grains and dairy.
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A naturopath said she had leaky gut and wanted to test for heavy metals.
She is too young to have heavy metal overload.
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I don't know what else to do.
You stated drinking water but did not specify what the source is, and certainly hope its not tap water. (must be filtered water) R.O. or equivilant.
Also, I would get her to drink a "greens" product once per day. This is a concentrated powder containing several extracts of dark green veggies. This is important because it is high in chlorophyll as well as natural iodine, antioxidants, and phytonutrients.
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Children are more susceptible to the effects of heavy metals. Check her toys. Some metals can cause an imbalance such that fungi can proliferate. Especially mercury.
Ok, here is her history. She was taken to the NICU unit 15 hours after being born for monitoring because the pediatrition thought she might have turned a little gray for a minute. The pediatrition wasn't sure but she wanted to be safe rather than sorry. Well I was sorry that it went that way because they ended up taking numerous x-rays of her chest and poked probes all over her little body. After the first x-ray they said there was a hole the lung. They didn't feed her for 24 hours because of some hospital mix up and needing a doctors ok. She became dehydrated then they fed her sugar water. Her oxygen levels and all vital signs were nomal the entire time she was there which ended up being over 48 hours. They did more x-rays and discovered there was no hole after all. The doctor who dismissed her said it was an interpretation error from the beginning. Welcome to the world Little Hannah.
She had torticollis for several months. We went to physical therapy for that.
I was an unsuspecting American citizen following standard protocols and she was vaccinated at 2 and 4 months. At 4 months I noticed she didn't babble as much. Fortunately, I received two vaccines at the same time my daughter had her 4 month vaccines and I got sooooo sick. I say I was fortunate to have been vaccinated because that was the beginning of the END of my trust in the American Medical System. My daughter, Hannah has not receieved anymore vaccines since her 4 month appt. BUT the total at that point was 16 vaccines.
A month later she developed patchy, red, round, irritated markings along her arms and legs. I think back now and see that it was the at the areas she was vaccinated at. These lasted for about 6 months. I gave her more water and miraculously it cleared up.
She also began to develop hives after eating or several hours afterwards. On her first birthday I made her homemade organic whipped cream and placed it on top of organic sliced bananas. She had never eaten either of these foods before. Not 5 minutes later her entire belly and back were covered in hives. I would say around 100. She's never had such a severe reaction since. Many foods would cause hives when she ate them though. I learned quickly to identify them and adjust her diet. Veggies were fine and so was meat. She has been dairy and wheat free nearly her whole life. I introduced homemade yogurt to her 6 months ago and she seemed fine but did develop pimples on her rear so she is still reacting to dairy.
She was a very chubby baby. I was in the hallway of the pediatritions office and someone commented, "Oh,what an adorable baby, she looks like the Michelan Man." And she did. Her weight put her in the obese category.
She has a bloated tummy. When it was palpitated it sounded hollow. The acupuncturist said air is trapped in there.
Her toes have been swollen since she was a little over one years old. She dropped a toy on her foot and the swollen toes never went down. Interestingly, her other foot has a swollen toe too and that never had any injury to it. They don't hurt her though.
One last thing, she has severe fluorosis. Her top 4 teeth never developed strong enamel on them as they came in. Over the next 8 months they decayed to near the gumline where they are now. They do not hurt her. After much research and questioning it can be traced back to a pharmaceutical medicine I took for 14 years that had fluoride at the base of it. It was newly on the market and had a little known side effect of causing birth defects. I've been looking for a lawyer to take legal actions but haven't looked hard enough because no one online seems to take this type of case.
Thanks for listening and using your critical thinking, wisdom and experience to help me help my daughter as much as can be helped.
If she has not been vaccinated and has not taken any significant drugs (antibiotics or steroids) its hard to believe that she has leaky gut or any of the stuff that they say she has.
Please list what she has taken that may be of concern.
I suggest that you give us a complete history of her condition and make this the one thread that we discuss her condition.
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I had a lot of the same symptoms you describe for your daughter and this is what has been wrong with me and I'm sure not the same reason but I was poisoned by Splenda and these symptoms are basically the same:
First, the doctors cannot test for toxic liver....they can test for 'functioning liver" but that doesn't mean her liver hasn't got toxins. What kind of food have YOU ate during your life/pregnancy? It could be the toxins were transferred. Anyway, I've been diagnosed by naturalist/doctors with leaky gut, ulcers, constricted gall bladder duct and constricted hipatic (liver) ducts which caused the toxins to stay in my liver. They performed a Hida scan 5 times (which they have to inject you with radio-active material to test the gall-bladder) to see if it is 'functioning' but even if it isn't according to their machine doesn't mean the machine is right. If she has constricted ducts, (which can be tested by ultra-sound) then all the poisons are backing up into her liver...leaky gut means the toxins are getting through the wall and being re-absorbed in the body. She is very sick. She definitely needs to get a food allergy test. You will need to do some investigation but there are food allergy tests companies that will test 100 foods. I was allergic to grapefruit and was told by a nutritionalist to take it....he had no idea I was very allergic to it. I will get the name of a proper food-test company if you need...$50.00. Have her drink plenty of GOOD quality water. Test her pH level. Investigate: Super Food by Dr. Schultz, Intestinew to repair leaky gut, weak colon walls. Aloe might give her too much diahhrea. STOP all processed food NOW! Milk Thistle NOW for her liver but get a natural doctor to approve anything you pursue. You have to fight for your daughter's life and I will pray for you.
First of all birth trauma... being separated from you and then the 48 hours of probing and lack of food in the ICU. Did you breast feed?
Possible birth defect from a drug that you took.
Heavy metal poisoning from the vaccinations she had. Although most do not have mercury anymore some do have aluminum, as well as a boat load of foreign protiens that the body can react to, generally with inflamation of various sorts... it causes behavior changes in some children, and of course ADD or Autism in the worst casese.
Immune system assault from the 16 different disease pathogens she received and that likely caused gut disorder which leads to allergy.
The combination of these assults certainly leads to leaky gut for some people. Remember, the trivalent measles vaccine itself causes damage to the gut, irregardless of what conventional medicine says.
Certainly she has some form of arthritis. Remember arthritis simply means inflammation.. and in her case of the toes. I suspect that the lining of her gut is highly inflammed also.
There are some brands of aloe vera that do not cause diarrhea and you could look for those.
I know that you have been working hard trying to figure the puzzle out and I commend you for your determination.
If you have not done it already I would have her tested for heavy metals. Generally a hair analysis test is what gives the best picture. Other chemicals can cause similar symptoms.
Of course, you already know to keep her off of all foods she is allergic to.
I think we have discussed this before about going to a classical homeopath. Sometimes they can reverse the neg. effects of vaccination. Short of jumping though a million and a half nutritonal alterations to try to make the change you seek, the right remedy might do it easily. At her young age homeoapthy is most effective and it works better on children than older people in general.
I dont know that there is anyting that may be done regarding any effect that the drug caused that you took so long ago. It may have made a genetic alteration of some sort. This I will say, homeoapths sometimes do correct genetic errors. They have been doing this for over 100 years, eliminating predipositon to disease and manefestation of genetically acquired changes from STD in parents. This is common homeoapthic knowledge of possibiities. It is not always possible but sometimes corrections can be made. Its like the disease moves through the family from parent to child... and although the germ of syphilus or Gonorrhea is no longer there the damge that germ can cause that is inhereted is there, the imprint of the disease, so to speak, . ... Well the same thing occurs with drugs. All I can say is that it is a possibilty that might be able to be corrected. One will never know unless one tries. I had a friend who's mom took a very dangerous drug in her younger days and it damaged her daughter in utero... even though she did not take it during pregnancy. It was called DES https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diethylstilbestrol the daughter received significant help from homeopathy, although not a total resolvement she was better. It was long ago now and I don't remember all the details.
The hope would be that homeoapthy can correct some of the imbalances to eliminate allergy, ease her gut, and reduce inflammation. Homeopathy is also good at detoxing metals and other chemicals in some cases. If you went the homeopathic route you would have another hair analysis, say 6 months after homoepathic treatment, if your homoepath thinks treatment has been successful. Then you go after what metals may remain if any.
I certainly would avoid any invasive tests other than common blood work. If they want to look inside tell them they have to have some very huge justifications. If she has no abdominal pain I would think that her gall bladder and liver are functioning well enough, and especially so if her stools look fairly normal and she has a pretty good apetitie without stomach ache afterward, considering she is eating foods she is not allergic to. Sonograms will be OK.
In the homeopathic perspective allergies are a symptom of disease. If you eliminate the food that causes the allergy and you do alright after that, then you are just kidding yourself. You are still ill, just avoiding controntation with your illness.
This is why I have always said that milk allergy needs to be treated. People should not be allergic to milk. Correct the terrain with homoepathy and milk can be taken freely again. This is a concept that conventional medicine has a very hard time with. A hard time because it directly confronts their inadequacy for curing anything. Homeopathy is known to cure allergies, and more so in children than adults.... wouldn't that be great for her!
Regarding birth trauma, homeoapthy can help with that also. If there is anger, fear, resentment, shock, remedies can take care of that.
I have been able to help several people and animals as well with issues around trauma though homeopathy.
Most people are over fed and under nourished, however, if your daughter eats nothing processed, gets colloidal minerals, and lots of veggies and fruit, she should be getting enough nutrients.
Exactly. That's why I scratch my head and wonder what in her body is not allowing the nutrients to be absorbed. Dr. Mercola has an article today that said, "It's not what you eat but what you absorb. Something is either eating her nutrients or she can't get them metabolized for some reason. As much as I love the idea of raw food she can not digest it at all. She'll poop out whole chunks of apple or blueberries.
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This I would believe. She should be on a phase one diet for a month or two. That means no grains, no simple sugars, no dairy, and no fruit juices.
Would that exclude quinoa, brown rice and amaranth? She eats a lot of sprouted mung beans, lentils, adzuki beans amongst others. Her veggies are typically onions, garlic, green beans, squash, pumpkin, dandelion greens, and zucchini. For fats she eats cod liver oil, coconut oil, olive oil and butter. She eats all meat except for pork. She also eats an apple a day (to keep the doctor away), and sometimes blueberry, acai or wheatgrass. She LOVES wheatgrass juice. lol
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You stated drinking water but did not specify what the source is, and certainly hope its not tap water. (must be filtered water) R.O. or equivilant.
We use RO with colloidal minerals or celtic sea salt added.
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Also, I would get her to drink a "greens" product once per day. This is a concentrated powder containing several extracts of dark green veggies. This is important because it is high in chlorophyll as well as natural iodine, antioxidants, and phytonutrients.
Is there a powder that you use and trust? I have spirulina and chlorella that she'll drink if I put 2 T. of apple juice in 8 oz. but I hesitate to do that because of the sugar. Do you think the benefit would outweigh the hazard of the fructose? honey? I don't use honey but if I did she would drink anything.
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Children are more susceptible to the effects of heavy metals. Check her toys. Some metals can cause an imbalance such that fungi can proliferate. Especially mercury.
The very first visit to the hematologist FOUND mercury in her blood. I put apple pectin in her morning food for 30 days and on the follow up visit there was no mercury found in the blood.
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Super Food by Dr. Schultz. Aloe might give her too much diahhrea.
Thanks 4Peanuts. We are using Georges Aloe Vera and it is very gentle. I'll look into the Super Food by Dr. Schulz.
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Well I see a couple of issues here. First of all birth trauma... being separated from you and then the 48 hours of probing and lack of food in the ICU. Did you breast feed?
I breast-fed till she was 2.5 yrs. old. I brought drops of colostrum and any milk I could get out while she was in the NICU. In hindsight, perhaps my milk had many unknown toxins in it. I cringe at the thought. What a catch 22 that was.
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If you have not done it already I would have her tested for heavy metals. Generally a hair analysis test is what gives the best picture.
The hematologist did find mercury in her blood and didn't note any other toxins. Have you known anyone to use Herbal Healers hair analysis lab? I've heard you mention Herbal Healer for various supplements.
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I think we have discussed this before about going to a classical homeopath.
I know I'm hesitating. I've never used a homeopath before and don't know anyone personally who has. It's such a foreign concept "like heals like." But I have to come to terms that what I've been trying isn't making the shift for her. And if the Royal family of England can use homeopathy exclusively and be in their 90's then that says a lot about homeopathy doesn't it? You've had amazing success with it as well.
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In the homeopathic perspective allergies are a symptom of disease. If you eliminate the food that causes the allergy and you do alright after that, then you are just kidding yourself. You are still ill, just avoiding controntation with your illness. This is why I have always said that milk allergy needs to be treated. People should not be allergic to milk. Correct the terrain with homoepathy and milk can be taken freely again.
"Just avoiding confrontation with your illness" YES! Get at the ROOT issue is what you're talking about. It makes sense.
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f there is anger, fear, resentment, shock, remedies can take care of that. I have been able to help several people and animals as well with issues around trauma though homeopathy.
Because she drank my milk would homeopathy recognize that my emotions could have been transfered to her? As much as I don't understand homeopathy and how it does it's magic I can't help but to be drawn to its possilbe reversal of Hannah's malfunctioning cellular chemistry. It's a classical homeopath that you recommend, right? What is it that makes them better than others who aren't?
THANKS EVERYONE FOR BEING A PART OF THIS BRAINSTORMING SESSION OF HEALTH AND HEALING IDEAS FOR MY DAUGHTER AND HER FUTURE. I BELIEVE ONE DAY SHE'LL HAVE WONDERFUL HEALTH!!!!!
As much as I don't understand homeopathy and how it does it's magic I can't help but to be drawn to its possilbe reversal of Hannah's malfunctioning cellular chemistry. It's a classical homeopath that you recommend, right? What is it that makes them better than others who aren't?
There are several philosophies on how to prescribe homeoapthic remedies and the homeopaths often are in conflict over it. All the systems can work and obviously do because homeopaths, if they are good, can be quite busy.
Classical homoepathy is a perspective on how to select and administer a remedy, and it is closest in approach to the system developed by the founder of Homeoapthy, several hundred years ago.
Because your daughter is so young I think it is the best method to go with. Sometimes a classical homoepath will go outside of even his/her own bounds and select on other philosophies, escpecailly if the constitutional remedy seems not to be working.. For instance, say your daughter is a Calcium Carbonate constitution (Im just making an example here, I have no idea what her contitution is) and the homoepath is convinced of it, yet the remedy does not work, he may choose to try a different approach and say. work at removing a birth trauma with say a remedy like Opium or Aconite to deal with significant fear, especially if she is still fearful in some way.. Once that birth fear is dealt with the calcium carb remedy works like a charm. ... Each case is terribly individual. For me once we were convinced that I needed Causticum, but causticum failed to work, so we changed potency and that worked only for a few days, so we changed potency again and finally the cure and the problem has never returned.
There is another system of applying remedies called Sequential Therapy, where they treat a time line of events in your life starting with the present and working backwards, encompassing emotional, spiritual, or physical disease or traumas... some people have found this very effective... often they are people who found classical homoepathy not to work well for them.
then there is the Reckwig approach... I hope I spelled that right. This approach uses generally more low potency remedies with many different remedies on one bottle.... the shot gun method. It is applied more in an allopathic mind set. Here, you have this disease, take these remedies. I use this approach when I have no other clue or cant get to the bottom of it in any other way. They say it can be curative and I did cure a case of severe migrane with these remedies... for a woman who spoke only Spanish, and since we had a language barrior I could not apply the classical method... but it worked. These are the Heel remedies from Germany that I sometimes mention here on the forum. Mostly I consider them palliative but I have heard of other cured cases, and they can be very effective for restoration of the gut. I have a protocol on healthsalon. ... but the best choice I think for her is Classical.
There are several other approaches and applications and I think a really good homeoapth will do what needs to be done regarless of philosophy. And actually most will, but the classical sticks more to the rules than others do and the rules are there for a reason. It takes patience and lots of training on the part of the homeopath as well as a good understanding on the part of the client.
She'll poop out whole chunks of apple or blueberries.
If this is the case, your daughter lacks enzymes necessary to break down food. There are different enzymes to break down protein, carbs, and fat.
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Would that exclude quinoa, brown rice and amaranth?
Any sprouted grain would probably be ok because it won't contain gluten. However, they may still contain fungi, and the brown rice, although better than white rice, is still a grain.
The beans, veggies and fruit that your daughter eats should make her healthy as a horse.
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Is there a powder that you use and trust?
I use a product called greens plus, and can be seen here:
The product that I use is sweetened with stevia, which is fine, and no other sweeteners are necessary.
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Do you think the benefit would outweigh the hazard of the fructose?
Fructose is poison. When God made fruit he packaged the antidote with the poison... a small amount of fructose with a large amount of fibre and vitamin C.
Honey, in small amounts, is fine.
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The very first visit to the hematologist FOUND mercury in her blood.
This must be from the vaccines, however, can be chelated out of the body using the greens product I described earlier along with vitamin c in divided doses throughout the day.
If a doctor injected a patient with lead, he would go to prison, and yet they are allowed to inject people with mercury, which is over 100 times more toxic than lead. In fact, only plutonium / depleted uranium is more toxic than mercury.
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In homeopathy they believe that rashes and pimples are healing reactions, right? I'm just afraid my daughter is going to be covered with skin issues. My daughter gets pimples very easily. She use to get hives and rashes but not anymore.
I called a very good classical homeopath (Arrow gave me a recommendation). It took three days to finally get connected and I spoke to her assistant for 40 minutes. I worry that the homeopath may be too busy for us. Are the good ones worth it even if they aren't easily accessable?
Well, if the homoepathic treatment brings out rashes and pimples in a healing crisis it will be a blessing and likely short lived and it should under all circumstances, not be repressed with medications.
One healing crisis I had with homeopathy brought out poison oak on both of my forearms that had been repressed with steroids many years before. This brought so much healing to me, on several levels, I just can tell you.
Unlike the initial poison oak it did not itch and burn and resolved in one week. It changed my life. All I did was bandage it with a ligh gauze.
another healing crisis was more intense, my feet burned like they were in a vat of chili peppers for several days. After that my insomnia went.
I will say that with good homoepathic treatment she may loose many food allergies.
Homeoapaths generally believe that a healthy body can eat any food generally considered safe when taken in moderation. I have seen long lived milk allergies disappear, gluten allergies, you name it. This means that the enzyme systems and other digestive processes have healed.
Do not be afraid of the healing crisis. It is a blessing and to be longed for as it is a sign that the right remedy has been selected. ... but in many cases the healing crisis hardly is detected. The cure just seeps in with little or no issue and the disease falls away. No one can say which way it will go. Sometimes only one remedy is required, other times a series of remedies.
The good one's are worth it. I would try to understand why they were not accessible. Sometimes doctors have different lines for current patients as opposed to new patients. Discuss with the doctor her accessibility at your appointment if it is a concern. Don't let concerns just wallow. Address them.
Any sprouted grain would probably be ok because it won't contain gluten. However, they may still contain fungi, and the brown rice, although better than white rice, is still a grain.
The beans, veggies and fruit that your daughter eats should make her healthy as a horse.
I learned recently from the Paloe diet group that lectins are damaging to the gut. She eats mostly vegetable protein but I'm now wondering if she wouldn't be better off with more meat.
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One healing crisis I had with homeopathy brought out poison oak on both of my forearms that had been repressed with steroids many years before. This brought so much healing to me, on several levels, I just can tell you.
Unlike the initial poison oak it did not itch and burn and resolved in one week. It changed my life. All I did was bandage it with a ligh gauze.
another healing crisis was more intense, my feet burned like they were in a vat of chili peppers for several days. After that my insomnia went.
Thanks Arrowwind09 for your examples and inspiration. Have you heard of ABCHomeopathy? They have classical homeopaths online that take a detailed history of the issue. Would it be ok if I ran it by you what they suggest as her constitutional remedy?