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He knows what he is doing. He employed a founder of facebook.com and marketed his primary on facebook, his strategy focusing on small donations from young people proved to be very successful.

How many US members on this board? Who will you vote? Maybe it's fun to create a mini poll.
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I would like to see one other candidates name at the bottom of all ballots. That candidates name would be “none of the above”.

Obama is from my state and I haven’t seen anything that he has done that would make him worthy of being president.
McCain’s claim to fame seems to be that he was a prisoner of war.

One would like to think that we could do better then these two clowns. But putting on my aluminum cover conspiracy hat I feel that these two were carefully chosen for us by those individuals who are actually running the country from behind their wall of secrecy.

As a result I will do a write-in for Ron Paul.
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Im having alot of trouble believing that folks are falling for this man..... he is a muslim.... He wrote in his book, "the audacity of hope" that he would stand with the muslims. He isnt for the good of America, he is for the fall of America... Its the muslim's duty to bring us infidels down.... Nothing but alot of lies from him and fancy speeches.
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I will stand with the (Muslims) should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.’
https://obamawho.wordpress.com/2008/0...uote-by-obama/

I have never figured out how to shorten weblinks... xania or kevin, can you fix this for me?
I think if we are gonna have to deal with all these threads about how great obama supposedly is, can we get a political forum, so those of us that are disgusted by this man wont have this crap rubbed in our faces
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...I feel that these two were carefully chosen for us by those individuals who are actually running the country from behind their wall of secrecy.
In some countries, yes; In U.S., you never know.
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I have never figured out how to shorten weblinks
Type any text you want to link, select it, then click the button and paste the URL.
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I would like to see one other candidates name at the bottom of all ballots. That candidates name would be “none of the above”.

Obama is from my state and I haven’t seen anything that he has done that would make him worthy of being president.
McCain’s claim to fame seems to be that he was a prisoner of war.

One would like to think that we could do better then these two clowns. But putting on my aluminum cover conspiracy hat I feel that these two were carefully chosen for us by those individuals who are actually running the country from behind their wall of secrecy.

As a result I will do a write-in for Ron Paul.
Mad, please humour those of us who are not in your country - what is a "write-in"
Is this another form of vote?

I am not keen on the idea of having a muslim in the White House.
Does USA really want sharia law instead of US law?
Be careful -
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Thanks Kevin, somehow it shortened when it posted... is that an automatic thing?

Xania, I have heard alot of good about him from the media.... apparently the media wants him in.. but when you start listening to what he is really saying, he is just a muslim looking to give muslim a way in to destroy the world (IMO) The fact that he is lying and keeping it a secret about his muslim upbringing says alot.... and lets get real, the prejudice against the poor, the religious, and the whites seems to be very substantial... the comment about the grandmother being the typical whitey, the comment about the philly people turning to god becus they are angry.... the fact that his wife has never been proud of the US...so much more!!!!
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Thanks Kevin, somehow it shortened when it posted... is that an automatic thing?
Yes, if it's a long URL. I suggest you to type some meaningful text first and link them with the long URL, thus the URL is completely invisible. When you read an article or news report, you can see that they usually don't use the URL as link text. e.g. The same article can be linked in the following two ways, the latter is better.

https://www.cnn.com/2008/US/weather/0....ap/index.html

CNN:Flooded cities battle to contain Mississippi River


It seems that Obama isn't favored on this board.
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Xania, Im not sure if I know how to explain it right, but we are given the opportunity to write in a canidate of our choice to be president....Unfortunatly everyone knows that a write in will never win... except for maybe this year.... alot of folks are talking about doing a write in vote for ron paul.... Its a consideration for me, I would really like to see ron paul in, but the idea that obama would win because we voted for ron paul scares the daylights out of me.
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Xania, are you thinking that Obama is a Muslim? If so think again. He is not, and no where near. Hussien is not a Muslim name it is an Arabic name. That would be like saying Mathew or Paul is a Christian name, when in fact it is a name that comes out a linguistic evolution that is much broader than a religious lineage.

I do have a lot of concern for the direction our country is going..

I am convinced that Obama is a good person who is not controlled. As far as financing the campaign goes, if Obama decided that he would only work with public funds I would have thought him a fool. The republican force has a lot of outside the party organizations that fund election babble and media presentations. He would not have stood a chance against this onslaught that IS on its way. www.Moveon.org is the only outside of party organization that has any significant monetary power on the democratic side. The republican side has much much more and they use it to do the dirty work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuVNZPoVPYg&feature=user

It is going to be a bloody battle.

I don't know if Obama has the power to get done what he sees as his vision for the country. He is not as liberal as some would think. He is pragmatic and will shift positions to get the work done. I do think that his intention is to get rid of crap like the goings on of Haliburton, lying to the public, Katrina neglect, and soo much of the BS that has happened with our current administration. And especially our public relations with the rest of the world that is now in a miserable shambles. I think his vision is for a cleaner more straight forward and transparent process in world and national affairs.

I think McCain is border line early dementia and if you have worked in the medical profession as long as I have you will recognize the signs. He just isn't sharp anymore. The lucidity and fluidity that is required of an agile mind is not present. At times I get the idea that he is almost fumbling. I think he is very subject to being controlled by others. He barely won the republican platform, more or less won it by default, as he was seen to be the best of the worst.

He will do nothing to stop pac and other financially backed organizations that are known to slander other opposing candidates. He needs them for any kind of edge they might develop for him.

The people running his campaign are lobbiest and some of them have represented FOREIGN INTERESTS above our own. This is dispicable, Un-American, and traitorist in ideology. He says he hates lobbyists yet he camps out with them on a regular basis.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101131_pf.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjCYmjjxp8I
This is the worst and he has him for a politcal advisor? I have looked into this the best I can and I think it is true. This man is a traitor to American Ideology and has done much to damage many many lives.

https://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2...lobbying-work/

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_104696.html

Obama is really a grass roots candidate. He gets his power from the small donations of the people., me being one of them. I worry that he will not have strong enough political ties and support in Washington when he gets there. But if the party really gets behind him and people work to support him the ties will be made. This I think is where the Clintons come in. They can do much to fortify him. I trust Hilliary more than Bill. (although I don't trust her 100 percent. She can be slippery and deceptive) I have great distain for Bill for pushing through NAFTA and buying into the WTO. Hillary was always opposed to NAFTA but she got the clamp put on her in regards to this issue when Bill was president. But she has political clout and people behind her that will listen to her. Of course this will not be her last run for the white house, she will bide her time and do what is politically expedient, Right now it is in pushing for Obama and seeing to it that he is a success. After that is done Obama better get a food taster if he keeps her too close.

I love Ron Paul and I think his view points are great but I must vote for someone who can win. If I wrote in his name on the ballot it would be a statement of discontent with the current candidates but it would be also an ignored statement and a wasted vote.

I would like to see Ron Paul appointed as Advisor of Constitutional Law. Someone who would be present at congress and senate meetings to remind them of what the constitution is and how it should work, writing critiques on legistation. Who would write reports on how any particular legislation up for vote either supports the constitution or degrades it. In this large world we currently live in I think that Paul is a bit too much of a regressionist. We cannot go back to 1776 but we should not be bordering on the totalitarian state that we are toying with now.


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also, Obama doesn't have to declare to FECA individual contributions under $200.

https://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/f...tml#Disclosure

but, here are the contributions to Obama so far. This is a "noble" (and great PR) gesture, but he couldn't have gotten as far as he has without the previous contributions by the "political machine".

Banking on Becoming President

Donations from Pharmaceuticals/Health sector (Obama is at the top)

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In my vieew, Obama is 100% puppet. We just are not completely
sure about who is pulling the strings. Unfortunately the democrats
efforts to dumb-down the public has been quite effective, so we may
indeed have an Osama in our future.
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A big part of Obama's appeal is in the younger segment of the voting population - and those of a similar mindset. It's helpful to better understand what that means ...

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We regularly hear about Barack Obama's appeal to youth, about how he has been able to excite and mobilize a generation of young people to become politically involved, his rare ability to excite young people, and about how many new voters will register (and vote Democrat) as a result.

All this seems to be true. The question, however, is whether it is a good thing for the country and not just for Barack Obama and the Democratic Party.

The answer is that it probably is not. With a few exceptions -- and those exceptions are usually those rare cases when young people confront dictatorships -- when youth get involved in politics in large numbers, it is not a good thing.

Of course, there are those who believe that the mass movement of America's young people in the late 1960s and early 1970s was a great thing for America -- a bright shining example of young people mobilized against an unjust war and on behalf of a world filled with love.

If that is how one views the legacy of the baby boomer generation, the mobilization of youth for Obama is probably a great -- not to mention nostalgia-inducing and personally validating -- development.

For those of us who view the late '60s and '70s as the beginning of a downward spiral for American society, however, the mobilization of many young people on behalf of Barack Obama is not encouraging. It is only the latest example of young people getting excited as a result of their unique combination of naivete, lack of wisdom, romantic idealism and narcissism.

Most adults throughout history have recognized that young people are likely to be unwise given their minuscule amount of life experience. After all, most adults, even among baby boomers, believe that they themselves are wiser today than 10 years ago, let alone than when they were 20 years old. It is remarkable, then, how often adults romanticize youth involvement in politics -- "Isn't it heartwarming to see young people getting involved?"

Actually, for a wise adult, it is not heartwarming.
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The downward spiral in our society did not come from the youth becoming politically active, it came from corporate interests and mass marketing strategies stealing from our nation, polluting the minds of EVERYONE and the rampant increase of the use of drugs by middle class america, and I am talking about legal drugs not only found in our medicine cabinets but in our water and our food. The pharmaceutical machine, the chemical industry, the cancer industry, the war industry, and the shipment of work overseas is doing us in. It is not the youth that is responsible for this, it is the actions of the type of money grubbing capitalists who do not recognize national boundaries, nor have national pride and allegiance, who have sold their soul and would sell yours and your child's for a buck.

We have the war on drugs, the war on cancer and the war. These are decimating our society and our economy. Want to understand it? Follow the money. Its the conservatives in this nation that have failed us in these "wars" through their fear mongering and through a lack of willingness to do what has to be done and should be done.

Seal the borders. Fire Hailiburton. Make insurance companies cover alternative health choices. Divorce our politicians from pharmaceutical interests, (like Rumsford) and so many others who have personal vested interests. Get rid of NAFTA and the WTO. Tell our government to stop supplying weapons to enemies both through the front door and the back door. Tell monsanto no more! to genetic crop alterations!

The economy has forced women to work and leave their children improperly supervised by others. Women, who by and large, would not have worked if given the choice. We have an economy that requires two incomes, and that and all the energy and time it sucks, is what is destroying our civilization. Not young people being politicialy active.

Young people are the only ones with enough time and energy to commit to political action, for the most part. Everyone else is too busy working hard. Lining the pockets with silver and gold of someone else or being immobilized by chronic disease like depression, cancer, adrenal burnout, diabetes, autistic kids, aging debilitated parents, foreclosure caused by unregulated industry,

Those who view the 60's and 70's as the cause of the spiraling down of American society as caused by the youth movement really need an education.

Don't you think the world war II generation brought up some issues? The decline of the extended family into the fragile nuclear family? The blind following into the use of drugs and processed foods? Oh No! Don't blame the 60's and 70's. Any failings of this generation is the result of the one before it.

Really, that above article is a crock designed to keep one off the track of the truth.

I am willing to look at who you think is pulling Obama's strings. Show me.

We know Big Oil is behind Bush, Haliburton behind Cheney, Searle (manufacturer of aspertame and Tamaflu) behind Rumsfeld, so who is controlling Obama? I want to know and I want evidence. These are the idiots and puppets the right elected into office.

Hey, Monsanto owns Searle. wouldn't you know it.

lots of Vets for Obama. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87LhqeQmnHw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdN8X...eature=related
Why Generals and Admirals support Obama

millitary commanders support Obama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dijgO...eature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLRPC...eature=related
How about General Powell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K4vj...eature=related
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