Detoxing can be done by chemical, physical or electrical means; chemical by stuff that we can put in our mouths or other places, physical by means of exercise or work that produces perspiration, or various forms of heat, which includes hot air sauna, or electromagnetic radiation in the far infrared region that also induce perspiration.
It seems clear to me that there is not a lot of comparison between these methods. A chemical liver detox and perspiration seem only remotely related--very remotly related. Yet, consider the exchange below.
Someone in WI is interviewing Dr Sinatra--
"Brookfield, WI: Can you share your thoughts on: seaweed/sea vegies, and negative ions and far-infrared therapies?"
Stephen Sinatra, MD: "I love seaweed and just wrote about it in the March issue of the newsletter. I only wish I could do a far-infrared sauna every day. It is one of the best ways I know to detox the body."
Having researched the subject for a number of hours now I have read copius quantities of 'purple prose' with only a little bit of hard evidence. Admittedly far-infrared could be a more efficient way to have comfort during cold weather in your home, but only if your abode was designed for it and if you prefer to walk around in the nude, or nearly so. For detox purposes you need to get pretty close to a good source (think of a sweat lodge used by our indian friends) Of course sauna baths would work pretty well, but I stay away from those because, invariably, some clown will usually show up with the hope of shaking a cold. I have built and tried the IR sauna described by Dr Mercola, but it doesn't make me sweat. And, from the claims, you must sweat to detox.
Maybe something that would help would be something that enhances perspiration. Any ideas?
And, please, not the obvious answer. Already know about that and it has too many limitations.
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I have built and tried the IR sauna described by Dr Mercola, but it doesn't make me sweat. And, from the claims, you must sweat to detox.
Maybe something that would help would be something that enhances perspiration. Any ideas?
My understanding of the dilemma of not sweating in a far-infrared or any other type sauna is that as your body becomes more toxic, it loses some of it's efficiency at expelling these toxins. The perspiration will come if used regularly. It may take a few months...
Actually, Serafili is pretty close to bein 100% correct. It may take awhile to get those pores opened...
They may just be clogged up with so much toxins in your body..
However. the toxins in your cells, may never come out if you are deficient in MSM. MSM will make your cell walls weapy... (porous.. don't count off for my spellin!)...
When you cell walls become weapy... the toxins will ooooze out of the cell and will allow room for the good stuff.. nutrients... to move in. In so doin.. the cell, when it dies and is full of good nutritional goodies instead of toxins, will come back as a good healthy cell. If this didn't happen.. the cell would die and come back as a very unhealthy bad cell. MSM is critical in cell replication, DNA, and well.. trust me.. it's good stuff..
So, I suggest you go and find a good, high quality MSM, capsule form, and start takin 4 capsules, twice a day. MSM will only last in your body for 12 hours so it is imperitive that you take every 12 hours.
IMPORTANT... you must take Vit C with the MSM. capsule form. same dosage as the MSM.. 4 capsules, twice a day. It is the Vit C that carries the MSM into the cell..
MSM does a lot more but.. I won't go there now.. believe me.. I could go on for pages.... on MSM alone.
Bill Rich Distribution has a very good MSM capsule. But remember.. you have to take Vit C with it.. GMC has some MSM. but don't get the one with ginko spinko or XYZ glycophico.. or what ever that other stuff is.. Just get Plain MSM and Plain Vit C.. capsules... This will open up your pores and cause you to detox.. In fact.. you may not even need that sauna.. Cause you will detox with the MSM and Vit C.
Side effects of MSM? you bet.. healthier hair, thicker finger nails.. more stamina, you will have some muscle aches cause of the detoxin.. but give it some time.. don't quit till you finished detoxin..
Remember this too.. detoxin.. occurs in about 3 main ways.. goin to the bathroom a lot, (the best way), detoxin thru the skin.. (not fun). and then there is always.. pukin your guts out..detoxin... (not fun either)..
Seems to me that the sauna will encourage the detoxin thru the skin.. I think that would not be the best way... diaheria seems easiest and fastes way to me?
Oh well.. hope this makes sense... MSM and Vit C.. Capsules only...
tabs don't desolve fast enough, make sure there are no fillers in the Vit C or the MSM.. cause you have to get rid of those fillers too...
If you have any questions about any product that I mention, please PM me. I'm not a doctor. Just someone who cares and that has seen some incrediable results. Now.. go take some MSM and Vit C.
Harry, I had never heard the word "sudorific," so I looked it up at PubMed and found this interesting article.
Presse Med. 2002 Sep 21;31(30):1416-22.
[Metabolic effects and drug interactions provoked by certain vegetables: grapefruit, St. John's wort and garlic]
GRAPEFRUIT: Essentially consumed in the form of juices with its bitterness helping to quench thirst, grapefruit contains not only vitamin C but also many complex antioxidizers, licopene, lemonoids and naringine. It also contains large quantities of pectin. Grapefruit juice is a metabolic inhibitor of medicinal substances that constitute an exclusive target for the CYP 3A4 isozyme and glycoprotein P in the enterocytes. Above all, it affects the drugs with strong intestinal metabolic first pass effect, phenomenon provoking the reduction of their oral bioavailability. This metabolic inhibition is manifested by an increase in the serum levels, oral bioavailability and therapeutic activity of drugs metabolized by CYP 3A4, a characteristic that may indeed be interesting for some of them, but which should be avoided for others.
ST. JOHN'S WORT: (Hypericum perforatum) Also known as "herbe a mille trous" or "herbe percee" or even "herbe de Saint-Jean" in France, St. John's wort is used in several therapeutic fields: neuropsychiatry, dermatology (oleate or lipid extract) and in rheumatology. In herbal remedies and homeopathy, the flower heads are often prescribed as antidepressor in the treatment of mild to moderate depression. It also contains photosensitizing substances, which, at high dose, or during chronic use, may provoke intense dermatitis or photosensitivity. The potential occurrence of side effects with its use has led the European Agency for drug assessment and the French Medicines Agency to decree that all magistral preparations containing St. John's wort must be labeled: "Warning, risk of drug interactions".
GARLIC: (Allium salivum) Originating from Asia, widespread and cultivated in Europe in kitchen gardens, garlic is used by herbalists for its diuretic, antiseptic, stimulating and sudorific properties.
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Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM, or dimethylsulfone) is an organic sulfur compound belonging to a class of chemicals known as sulfones. It occurs naturally in some primitive plants and is present in small amounts in many foods and beverages.
MSM is also known as dimethylsulfone, or DMSO2, a name that reflects its close chemical relationship to dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO), which differs only in the oxidation state of the sulfur atom. MSM is the primary metabolite of DMSO in humans, and it shares some of the properties of DMSO.
MSM is sold as a dietary supplement that is marketed with a variety of claims and is commonly used (often in combination with glucosamine and/or chondroitin) for helping to treat or prevent osteoarthritis. Retail sales of MSM as a single ingredient in dietary supplements amounted to $115 million in 2003. However, clinical research on the medical use of the chemical in people is limited to a few pilot studies that have suggested beneficial effects. [...]
The effects of supplemental methylsulfonylmethane in biology and medicine are poorly understood. Several researchers have suggested that MSM has anti-inflammatory effects (Morton et al. 1986; Childs, 1994; Murav'ev et al., 1991). Any health effects of dimethyl sulfoxide (DMSO) may be mediated, at least in part, by MSM (Williams et al, 1966; Kocsis et al, 1975). Stanley W. Jacob, M.D., of the Oregon Health & Science University claims to have used MSM to treat over 18,000 patients with a variety of ailments (Jacob & Appleton, 2003).
Clinical evidence for the usefulness of MSM is limited to animal studies and four published clinical studies in humans. These pilot studies of MSM have suggested some benefits, particularly for treatment of osteoarthritis. Further studies would be needed to test the usefulness of the chemical as a medical therapy.
Thanks for all the good info, Serafili, Larry & RT.
I have used MSM for many years, but only when I am about to be confronted with a hay fever situation. For me it does inhibit a reation to that problem . . . and it is due to start any day now in the California foot hills.
I had not heard about MSMs potential benefit in the area of detox, but I am going to try it out.
OK, to summarize: To get a mechanical detoxification you need to sweat a lot. (I am considering detoxing caused by something that goes in through the mouth to be a chemical detox) Using google I have found an enormous amount of info on 'Far Infrared' saunas, but almost all of the superlatives come from those who are selling the devices. From a cost point of view the far infrared sauna devices do seem to have an edge, but after spending a lot of time reading and a lot of time thinking about the situation I have come to one final conclusion:
You just want to sweat a lot. And the most cost effective way to do that would be to get a sauna suit.
And that is not all --
Consider the following detailed info on the character of perspiration:
sudoriferous gland - any of the glands in the skin that secrete perspiration.
apocrine sweat gland:
Any of numerous sweat glands found primarily in the skin of the armpit, pubic region, and areolae of the breasts that produce a secretion that is more viscous than that formed by the eccrine glands. Secretions from these glands occur most frequently during periods of emotional stress or sexual excitement.
Any of the numerous small sweat glands distributed over the body's surface that produce a clear aqueous secretion devoid of cytoplasmic
constituents and important in regulating body temperature.
Therefore what we want is apocrine sweat.
So, to be the most cost effective--even with the sauna suit idea--all one needs is plastic briefs that would cover the crotch area and a plastic T-shirt.
Now, where can I find those? Or will I have to make them?
Reese, a Kinesiology junior, was trying to shed 17 pounds to compete in the 150-pound weight class. At 6:30 p.m. on Dec. 9, Reese was still 1.7 pounds from his desired weight, the statement to police said. Reese then asked McFarland if he could delay the weigh-in until the next morning, but instead he continued to work out for about 90 minutes while the rest of his team left for dinner.
The statement to police indicates that Reese was wearing a "sauna suit," cotton sweat pants and a blue stocking cap while he rode a stationary bike in a 92-degree room. He also sat in a sauna twice for two-minute periods. At about 8 p.m., Reese collapsed while making his way toward a scale. He was pronounced dead less than an hour later.
I don't think there's an immediate danger in using sauna suits - provided that "common sense" be used as Ruby pointed out. After all, if that same person had dragged a stationary bike into a sauna ... he likely would have kicked the bucket even quicker.
If you use the suit in a similar way as most people use a conventional sauna ... I think you'll be fine. Still, it's not a bad idea to start slowly and maybe even have someone around in case you start feeling weak. Also, it should go without saying that you should make sure to stay well hydrated and properly nourished before embarking on a therapeutic detox program.
There is however one concern that I think may be present right at the get-go. These suits are typically made of plastic and nylon and goodness knows what else. I wonder if the toxic chemicals in these suit materials may leach into our bodies as we attempt to perspire our way to health?