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You always here people who use collodial silver products, that is, silver that has been fused with water, talk about people using it for thousands of years.

As of right now, I assumed its made with silver water and electricity.
How was it made before electricity?
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Colloids of silver were being made around 1940. Silver has been used since ancient times.

This history is taken from this book https://www.clspress.com/silver.html

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Silver has been used as a medicine and preservative by many cultures throughout history. The Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, and others used silver vessels for water and other liquids to keep them fresh. Pioneers trekking across the Wild West generations ago faced many hardships. Keeping safe drinking water was one of them. Bacteria, algae, etc. found a fertile breeding ground in the wooden water casks that were carried on the wagons. They placed silver and copper coins in the casks to retard the growth of these spoilage organisms. They also put silver dollars in their milk to keep it fresh. Silver water purification filters and tablets manufactured in Switzerland are used by many nations and international airlines. Silver is also used in the water purification systems of space craft. Preventing the growth of algae and bacteria in swimming pools is another problem that people face today. Electrical ionization units that impregnate the water with silver and copper ions are available today that sanitize the pool water without the harsh effects of chlorine.
Medical applications of silver were recognized by the ancient Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, and in the alchemical writings of Paracelsus. Following the discovery of bacteria as a cause of disease, several physicians discovered the antibacterial qualities of silver and applied them to their practice of medicine. They used silver nitrate successfully in the treatment of skin ulcers, compound fractures, and suppurating wounds.
In 1881, Carl Crede pioneered the installation of 2% silver nitrate in the eye of neonates to prevent gonorrheal ophthalmia, a technique which has been in widespread use ever since. Von Naegeli and others in 1893 realized that the antibacterial effects of silver were primarily due to the silver ion. He coined the term oligodynamic to mean that a small amount of silver is released from the metallic surface when placed in contact with liquids.
In the early 1900's silver foil dressings were used for wounds. These dressings were used extensively until just after World War II, and were listed in the Physician's Desk Reference until 1955.
In the early 1970's, Drs. Becker, Marino, and Spadaro, of the Veterans Administration Hospital in Syracuse, New York, pioneered the study of implanted silver wires and electrodes and silver-coated fabrics for the treatment of complex bone infections.
Dr. A. B. Flick developed broader clinical applications for silver nylon fabrics, first in partnership with Dr. Becker and later independently. Other university centered research teams also investigated the wound healing properties of silver plated fabrics applied with the application of an electrical potential. The result was the commercial introduction of silver dressings for wound healing and burns.
Silver sulfadiazine ointment is the number one treatment for burns in U.S. burn centers. Silver coated catheters and silver heart valves are used because they stop the bacterial growth that was commonplace with the old ones. To protect us from food poisoning, silver particles are now being put in cutting boards, table tops, surface disinfectants, washing machines, and refrigerators. Silver is now being used in clothing, for the military, sportsman and businessman. It is woven and impregnated into the fabric to kill bacteria that cause body odor and clothing odors.
In contemporary times, colloidal silver as a medicinal substance for internal use is something of an orphan. It is popular among alternative medicine enthusiasts but is not approved by the FDA.
Silver was used as a medicine in the late 1800's and early 1900's. While several metal salts and compounds demonstrated strong germicidal properties, silver alone showed both strong germicidal properties and low or no toxicity to humans. The colloidal state proved to be the most effective form because it lacked the caustic properties of salts (such as silver nitrate) and demonstrated a high level of activity with very low concentrations.
Medicinal silver compounds were in widespread use in the late 1800's and early 1900's. By 1940, there were approximately four dozen different silver compounds on the market being used to treat every known infectious disease.
These different silver preparations were drastically different from each other. Some were true colloids of silver, others were silver salts or other compounds of silver. Many were silver proteinates. The actual silver content also varied widely, with some products containing as much as 30% silver by weight.
With the discovery of antibiotics, interest in silver, as an anti-microbial medicine, declined. There were, at that time, no antibiotic resistant strains of disease organisms and there was a lot of excitement over the new wonder drugs.
In Ayurvedic medicine silver is used in small amounts as a tonic or elixir or rejuvenative agent for patients debilitated by age or disease. Silver was also used in homeopathic medicine. The dilute concentrations were in the same range as the modern low concentrations of colloidal silver.
Recently, with the development of antibiotic resistance in many diseases and the increase in new strains of bacteria and viruses worldwide, there is renewed interest in silver. Large companies are developing and introducing new silver compounds for a variety of anti-microbial applications, including protection against the spread of the AIDS virus. (2)
Today, colloidal silver is sold as a trace mineral supplement without medical claims or claims of specific benefits. Its need, or lack thereof, in human nutrition is not scientifically established. It remains popular as an "alternative" health care modality because of the large number of anecdotal reports of positive benefits.
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This website tells about the history of silver solutions. I am not familiar with the product advertised and do not recommend it's use...although it may be fine.

I had heard that years ago they used to drop silver coins into a glass or bucket of water. Canadian coins were best way back when this was done.

https://www.advancedsilversolution.co...er_Health.html
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First, colloidal silver is not made with silver water.. its made with ordinary distilled water. And yes, electricity is necessary in the form of direct current, although some silver generators use a battery pack rather than electricity.

There was a time, many years ago, when silver was ground up into small pieces. By todays standards these particles were huge. I can't even imagine how these large chunks of silver would help the immune system since they are much too large to get into the tissue or cells.

Then there was the problem with the silver itself, since it wasn't pure.

Dropping silver coins into milk cans to prevent the milk from spoiling seemed to work to some extent, however, this did not benefit the immune system in any way..

In order for the silver to help the immune system, it must be pure silver and the particles must be small... nanosized... the smaller the better.

When an electron is removed from the silver atom, such as in the process of making ionic colloidal silver, the remaining "ion" of silver becomes positively charged. It is this positive charge that allows these ions to "search out" viruses and harmful bacteria, or yeast.

The bottom line is that "grinding" up silver would not be very effective, unless using it topically, such as on an open wound.
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First, colloidal silver is not made with silver water.. its made with ordinary distilled water. And yes, electricity is necessary in the form of direct current, although some silver generators use a battery pack rather than electricity.

There was a time, many years ago, when silver was ground up into small pieces. By todays standards these particles were huge. I can't even imagine how these large chunks of silver would help the immune system since they are much too large to get into the tissue or cells.

Then there was the problem with the silver itself, since it wasn't pure.

Dropping silver coins into milk cans to prevent the milk from spoiling seemed to work to some extent, however, this did not benefit the immune system in any way..

In order for the silver to help the immune system, it must be pure silver and the particles must be small... nanosized... the smaller the better.

When an electron is removed from the silver atom, such as in the process of making ionic colloidal silver, the remaining "ion" of silver becomes positively charged. It is this positive charge that allows these ions to "search out" viruses and harmful bacteria, or yeast.

The bottom line is that "grinding" up silver would not be very effective, unless using it topically, such as on an open wound.
So, I guess the short answer is, they have NOT been using collodial silver for hundreds of years.

Better yet, they have only been using collodial silver since the invention of electricity?
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I am absolutely 100 percent against silver particles being put into fabrics, washing machines and other material items that are not directly related to healing.

This is a severe misapplication of silver and it will contribute to damaging the environment. Our fear of microbes is way way out of hand and to put metal out there that does not decompose into a material that contributes to compost is a mistake. It will go on to continue to kill microbes where ever it lands.
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The ancients 'absorbed' silver via using their silver platters, cutlery and drinking goblets.

In a similar vein: It has rather died out since glucosamine came along, but copper bracelets used to be very popular here in England as a natural treatment for arthritis. The copper was absorbed through the skin.
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In a similar vein: It has rather died out since glucosamine came along, but copper bracelets used to be very popular here in England as a natural treatment for arthritis. The copper was absorbed through the skin.
An "old wives tale" was to put a copper penny in your shoe next to your skin. Today, at least in the USA, copper is so expensive that pennies are not made completely of copper.
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"They have only been using collodial silver since the invention of electricity"?

True.

Before electricity, silver was absorbed mainly in the mouth through the use of silver spoons, etc..

Saliva reacts with silver in such a way as to release some atoms, which were then absorbed into the blood.
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It will go on to continue to kill microbes where ever it lands.
The biggest fear concerning silver, considering it is a heavy metal, is that it will end up in the ocean and will harm creatures that live there. But the truth is that the ocean already contains several million pounds of silver, yet these creatures continue to flourish. (I say ocean because there is really only one ocean).

I would be much more concerned with the more serious heavy metals, such as mercury, which has found its way into our light bulbs, that one day will end up in our landfills.

Most power plants, especially in China, are coal-fired plants. The problem is that the coal contains mercury, and when the coal is burned, mercury is the byproduct, and ends up going up through the stack and into the environment, most of it eventually settling in the ocean.

Then there is depleted Uranium, which is a whole other chapter.

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The ancients 'absorbed' silver via using their silver platters, cutlery and drinking goblets.
True, and this was somewhat effective in preventing sickness, possibly even plauges.
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FYI: i've been using colloidal silver made with four 9's silver and distilled water since 1996 since hearing Bob Beck. though early on we were using salt solution in the distilled which wasn't a sound method. CS is amazing. haven't had a cold or flu since. works great on food poisoning if you chug 16 oz of it as late as when the chills/aches hit you. gets rid of stubborn sinus infections in 2 applications if you fill up the sinus. gets rid of pink-eye in 24 hours. recently read about people with HIV and Hep C getting healthy (even testing negative) on 4 oz 2-3 times per day on an empty stomach. spread the word.
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Silver may be in our oceans some but not too much in our lakes and rivers... where a ton of water goes before it ever reaches the ocean and the silver would be most likely to stay in lakes and rivers and not travel much as plants, animals and microbes ingest it.

I say error on the side of safety until more is known.

A silver baby rattle was suppose to be protective to the childs health.

Oh and they use a silver wire or fabric to hold face lifts in positon these days.
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they use a silver wire or fabric to hold face lifts in positon
There are now bandaids that contain silver.

There are hospital gowns that contain silver. Also silver-lined socks, silver thread in shoe insoles, and as you mentioned, silver lined dryer drums.

The bottom line is that mainstream medicine is beginning to welcome silver, because the word is spreading that silver kills MRSA and serious STAPH infections, as well as TB and other life threatening infections that antibiotics will no longer work against.

Is silver safe for the environment? Nobody knows for sure, however, if its safe for humans, pets, plants, and oceans, it can't be any worse than most of the chemicals approved by the FDA.

There is no other mineral that I know of that will help to regenerate burnt skin, and heal it without scarring.

That is real medicine..
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[QUOTE=pinballdoctor;172257]"They have only been using collodial silver since the invention of electricity"?

True.

Before electricity, silver was absorbed mainly in the mouth through the use of silver spoons, etc..

Saliva reacts with silver in such a way as to release some atoms, which were then absorbed into the blood.
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The biggest fear concerning silver, considering it is a heavy metal, is that it will end up in the ocean and will harm creatures that live there. But the truth is that the ocean already contains several million pounds of silver, yet these creatures continue to flourish. (I say ocean because there is really only one ocean).

I would be much more concerned with the more serious heavy metals, such as mercury, which has found its way into our light bulbs, that one day will end up in our landfills.

Most power plants, especially in China, are coal-fired plants. The problem is that the coal contains mercury, and when the coal is burned, mercury is the byproduct, and ends up going up through the stack and into the environment, most of it eventually settling in the ocean.

Then there is depleted Uranium, which is a whole other chapter.


True, and this was somewhat effective in preventing sickness, possibly even plauges.
Indeed, the British aristocracy were largely unaffected by the Black Death, it is believed that their use of silver platters and cutlery was a major factor.
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