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My friend is wasting away before my eyes. I've known him just over 3 years and I can see a marked difference in his body mass... he is aware of it too.

He asked me what he can do to gain again and I just don't have much experience in this area.

He is highly active on his farm. He eats well and hearty and generally good foods but in my estimation he does eat too much sugar. They rarely eat processed food. They do eat lots of rabbit, goat, and goats milk products, fresh garden foods in seson, homemade breads, but lots of desserts with sugar. Very few processed foods.

He has a history of chronic Lyme disease that appears to be cured. Recently they found candida in his blood and he is under treatment for that but he seems to have no overt symptoms of it. He had been on a statin drug for cholesterol for 230, and that drug did make him feel quite ill over the last two months he took it. But since stopping he feels well.

I advised him to add Jarrow whey to his diet to get his protien really up, hoping that this would help maintain muscle mass, which has been going down over the last 3 years. But he already eats a lot... so what to do?

I have also advised him to get his testosterone levels checked, thinking that if levels are going down that could contribute to loss of muscle mass.
He hasn't done that yet. He's 63. and I also think that a statin drug could have messed with his hormones...

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Old 12-27-2011, 07:57 AM
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Rabbit Starvation Humans need a certain amount of fat intake, certainly more than a wild (or domestic) rabbit provides. So I'd suggest LOTS more BUTTER and COCONUT OIL or lard/dripping if they've a good source.
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Well they are huge meat eaters already. Mostly grass fed. I will suggest more fats.
I think they probably only eat rabbit about once a week.
I think goat is fairly lean too and the they eat venison and elk which has next to none.
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Well they are huge meat eaters already. Mostly grass fed. I will suggest more fats.
I think they probably only eat rabbit about once a week.
I think goat is fairly lean too and the they eat venison and elk which has next to none.
I've just checked on the other meats and they are all low fat so I agree you have to stress the FAT content and make sure they add plenty. Not just with the meat but also on the veggies.
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If he eats well and isn't Malnutrition then I'm not sure if the issue is just looks and vanity as if he eats well and works on a farm all day it's probably healthy. They have weight gainer shakes, which most people who feel they are too thin take. Of course by no means do I think weight gainers are healthy, they are loaded in calories and fat content.
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Well as I said, he has lost muscle mass and does not look well. It is not a vainity issue. It is a deteroriation issue, likely age related.
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What about parasites? Maybe a cleanse would clear up something that is taking his nutrients and eating his muscle. If he lives on a farm then certainly parasites could be a big issue that he's unaware of.

Olive leaf extract or clove, wormwood and blackwalnut products are good.
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I would suspect parasites too. It would not harm and may very well help to try Humaworm (https://humaworm.com/) See the contents and dosing here https://humaworm.com/formula.html

Even a tapeworm is not unreasonable.

If he doesn't want to go that far, at least black walnut hulls should be considered. This is good for parasites and contains a nice bit of iodine.
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I disagree that animal fat is a healthy source of good fat.

Good fats don't come from contaminated animals. Tell your friend to add organic virgin coconut oil to his diet, as well as olive oil, borage oil, and raw seeds and nuts. Lots of sunshine, clean pure water, and a good quality daily greens concentrated powder that contains several high quality green foods, high in clorophyll and nutrients, and packed with vitamins, minerals, and antioxidants.

Most people are overfed but under nourished.

Dr. Atkins proved you could eat more meat (and animal fat) and lose weight, so eating more meat isn't the answer your friend is looking for. He would need more carbs in his diet as well as the oils mentioned above, but they should be complex carbs from veggies.

Just for the record, I respect Bob Atkins, not for his diet, but because he knew ozone therapy worked, and "took the arrows" so others could do ozone therapy work. His diet did work, but not without liver damage, and in some cases, heart disease.

And also just for the record, candida is a form of parasite, and I would suspect he has a fungal issue.
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Just for the record, I respect Bob Atkins, not for his diet, but because he knew ozone therapy worked, and "took the arrows" so others could do ozone therapy work. His diet did work, but not without liver damage, and in some cases, heart disease.
Dr. Atkins in his "Age-Defying Diet Revolution" which came out after his original diet program focused on sugar and transfats as the culprit of heart disease. I'm not sure how his program would have caused heart disease if his theory is correct.
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Well this is where pinballdoc and I disagree. I think the human form was designed to eat meat and he does not belive this. Its not an arugement I like to get into for there is no resolvement for convincing on either side... its just the opinions that we hold and thats that. I assume that we each have looked at the "facts" on each side of the issue and we make our own decisions.

First of all my neighbor raises his own meat so it is not contaminated as the supermarket meat is. No parasites are found in his animals when he slaughters either.

He has done mms and no parasites appeared. Generally segments of tapeworm will appear, or round worms or pin with MMS.. although in severe cases MMS has not proved to cure very severe cases at all times of tapeworm.

They really haven't had known parasite issues with their goats and rabbits either but I guess that a tapeworm could be present. I will mention that possibility to him.

Candida is not what is causing his weight loss symptoms.. although its in his blood the doc said it was a mild case.. he's under a natural treatment for that.. the verdict is not in yet. Most candida sufferers tend to be overweight by and large arn't they?
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Well this is where pinballdoc and I disagree. I think the human form was designed to eat meat and he does not belive this.
I have a big problem particularly with feedlot meat. Study after study shows this meat is contaminated with all kinds of pathogens, including antibiotic resistant bacteria.

"Natural" raised meat is obviously better, however, the animal could still be sick. It is also my opinion that most animals know they are about to be killed, and that causes an extreame increase in hormones that are released into the meat. This is a form of contamination as well.

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Candida is not what is causing his weight loss symptoms.. although its in his blood the doc said it was a mild case.. he's under a natural treatment for that.. the verdict is not in yet. Most candida sufferers tend to be overweight by and large arn't they?


There are thousands of different fungi, of which candida is one, and fungus can cause different symptoms.

Whatever the cause of your friend's weight loss, he needs to supercharge his immune system.
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"Natural" raised meat is obviously better, however, the animal could still be sick. It is also my opinion that most animals know they are about to be killed, and that causes an extreame increase in hormones that are released into the meat. This is a form of contamination as well.
I get my grass-fed beef from a ranch that takes care of their cows. No confinement, pastures are pesticide-free and cows are rotated, no antibiotics or growth hormone. Owner is a also a vet. They also have their own processing facility with humane treatment free of stress for each individual animal. Hopefully there's no fear in the air if the cows don't know what's happening.
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Seems very strange. And exposure to agrochemicals is not an issue you say?
There's no cancer?
Could it be a hernia or something along those lines I wonder?
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PS: Contrary to what the others say, I reckon he is getting more than enough calories from his diet as it is. Throwing more fat into the mix is only liable to make matters worse not better.
If there is no physical affliction, have you tried him on digestive enzymes? Bromelain or something like that.
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