I have a 6 month old granddaughter that is having recurring pnuemonia (glad there isnt anyone here to complain about spelling..sorry my sp is bad) So daughter took her back to the ER because her pediatricians office told her to... the ER doctor complained that the daughter is bringing baby to the ER too much, and then complained because the pediatritian took her off the steroids that the ER doctor gave her...Told daughter it was viral pnuemonia, and that antibiotics wont work... Daughter asked then why has she been on these dern antibiotics for so long... and he said to keep her immune system up.... In the mean time... 6 month old granddaughter is sick as a dog, rattling, and just not thriving..... To top it off, mom has now found a lump on baby's chest/breast and also on her foot.... I am assuming that has something to do with formula...trying to convince her to go to goats milk... So the daughter lives up north, not close enough for me to help except by phone... They are on a tight budget, and she wont go out and buy alot of supplements, I have to mail them to her..... But, castor oil is close by...an easy get and cheap.... Will castor oil help viral pnumonia... Im assuming it will get rid of the lumps what ever they are.... but do we need to know what they are first... I hate to think that they get these checked out and the doctors jump the gun and force baby to do chemo and radiation... the doctors around her seem to have that "Im god and you better listen to me no matter what attitude"
Can she use castor oil packs on a 6 month old... laying it on the chest, and then also on the lumps????
Could the lumps be swollen lymph glands? Do you have lymph glands by the feet?
I'm very sorry about your grandbaby, just me. So very young to have pneumonia.
Has she tried Vicks Vapor Rub? I used to get pneumonia all the time and rubbing
Vicks on my chest and covering with a bath towel, then keeping warm in bed,
usually did the trick. Vicks Vapor Rub is sold in all drugstores I think, and is not
expensive. It's important tho for her to keep the baby warm - may have to put
her in bed to sleep w/Mom.
I don't know if castor oil packs would help w/pneumonia. The only time I ever
used those was to lay over my liver area - A Dr Schulz remedy I think.
Good luck to all; I'm sure it's a terrible worry for you.
In the mean time... 6 month old granddaughter is sick as a dog, rattling, and just not thriving..... To top it off, mom has now found a lump on baby's chest/breast and also on her foot.... I am assuming that has something to do with formula...trying to convince her to go to goats milk... Will castor oil help viral pnumonia... Im assuming it will get rid of the lumps what ever they are...
Can she use castor oil packs on a 6 month old... laying it on the chest, and then also on the lumps????
Could the lumps be swollen lymph glands? Do you have lymph glands by the feet?
Hi Justme, I'm sorry to hear about your granddaughter's viral pneumonia. I looked it up on the Edgar Cayce site, he was a big believer in castor oil packs, and couldn't find anything about using them for pneumonia.
It's hard to safely recommend any alternative treatments for such a young baby. If it were my child, I would probably try rubbing castor oil on the chest, and just covering it with a thick cotton shirt. I would do my best to keep the baby hydrated, and maybe use a humidifier in the room.
Not sure about the lumps either, don't sound like usual areas for swollen lymph glands. I wish the best for your granddaughter, if I come across anything of benefit, I'll post.
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I used Cumanda from Nutramedix for my sons Pneumonia. He wouldn't buy the antibiotics so I gave him Two doses and it was gone. He was not a baby though, and I am not sure if the Pneumonia was bacterial or viral.
Well, if it were bacterial pneumonia most likely she would be in the hospital.
If it were me I would do the castor oil packs with the vicks vapo rub alternating and also give her www.nutrasilver.com 1 drop 4x day in water, assuming she weighs about 18 to 20 pounds.
I don't mind the steroid for a week or so. Sometimes that can really help, seeing that she really has no professional alternative person to consult with.
No clue to the lumps. It could be just lymphatic congestion. Put the castor oil packs on them too and toss the antibiotics. Antibiotics do not keep your immune system "up" .... what a load of BS if I ever heard it.
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If it were my baby, I would try giving her a small dose of Sambucol elderberry extract in a little pure water. It is anti-viral and I use it myself if I feel a cold coming on, along with vitamin C and echinacea...It works for me...but I realize she is very young. There is a child's elderberry extract with echinacea, I believe, called Sambucas...or something like that. It's in most health food stores and should be in Wal-Mart...it's a Nature's Way brand.
A few years ago I read a tip on how you can rub the soles of a child's feet with a cut clove of garlic and in a minute or two they will taste it in their mouths...to be used if the child is too young to eat it. When cut, garlic changes chemically to a natural antibiotic. I'm not sure how old the child should be, but try it on a sensative, hairless area of your skin first to see if it burns or anything. I think it would be fine, but maybe rinse it off after 15 minutes or so to be more safe.
I think they used to use Mentholatum on babies instead of Vicks Vaporub because it was milder on the skin. Mostly we put it in the cup of a vaporizer in the baby's room, because the vapor is good to break up congestion.
I'm going to post a link to Mr. Mark Sircus' IMVA website for a most important article on how to use a nebulizer for getting different solutions into the lungs and the blood. Keep in mind that he has children that are young, and I believe one may be three or four years old. I will post it here too, but I want to be sure the adults see it too.
Thanks everyone for the information... I will pass it along, and let ya'll know what she finds out as soon as she tells me...
As for the garlic on the foot.... I have read that before, so being skeptical, we had to try it... we cut a clove of garlic in half, and my at the time teenage daughter stood on it...and boy did she taste the garlic fast!!!! She also felt extreme pain in her knee, so it was doing something...
I read about garlic on the feet years ago but it's good to hear someone confirm that it actually works!
I've been put to sleep with sodium penithal (spell?) twice for surgery and the instant they put it in the IV I tasted garlic as I also instantly went to sleep. I wonder where the garlic taste comes from...is there garlic in it?
sodium pentathal stinks. I did a rebirthing session with a friend and all that drug came out of her lungs that she had received in past surgeries. We had to open the windows during her session.
Wtih the garlic, many things in the garlic cause its odor. The antibacterial effects come from allicin. I'm sure it would not transfer into the body and be effective transderamally.
Last edited by Arrowwind09; 02-04-2010 at 06:06 PM.
Magnesium and iodine are absorbed transdermally. I'm curious why you think allicin wouldn't be. They say that our skin is one of our largest organs. It absorbs toxic chlorine from tap water too.
At the same time our body detoxes through the skin so it is hard to understand.
Wtih the garlic, many things in the garlic cause its odor. The antibacterial effects come from allicin. I'm sure it would not transfer into the body and be effective transderamally.
Hi Arrow,
Like Nightowl, I believe that there would be no reason that the Allicin in Raw Garlic couldn't be absorbed transdermally. I usually eat it raw if I need it to cure a cold, etc., but will definitely use it through the skin next time as a test. Here's a snippet from best-home-remedies.com
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According to Dr. M.W. McDuffie of the Metropolitan Hospital, New York, "Garlic contains a volatile oil, called allyl sulphade, and its medical properties depend on this oil, strongly antiseptic, it seems to have a remarkable power of inhibiting the growth of the Koch's bacillus, eliminated by the lungs, skin, kidneys and Liver, and oxidizes into sulphuric acid in the system. Applied locally, it is freely absorbed by the skin and penetrates the deeper tissues. Garlic gave us our best results, and would seem equally efficacious, no matter what part of the body affected, whether skin, bones, glands, lungs or special parts".
Rheumatic Affliction :- In Russia garlic is used extensively in the treatment of rheumatism and associated diseases. In Britain also garlic is recommended to rheumatic sufferers. Recent experiments in Japan tested a garlic extract on patients with lumbago and arthritis and a large number of them were benefited without any undesirable side-effects Garlic has been shown to exhibit an anti-inflammatory property which could account for its effectiveness in the treatment of arthritis and rheumatism.
The most popular method is to take the garlic cloves orally, although some reports indicate that pain can also be relieved by locally rubbing the affected parts with cloves of cut garlic. Garlic oil is rapidly absorbed through the skin and into the blood stream and quickly reaches the affected areas.
Skin Disorders :- Garlic has also been used successfully for a variety of skin disorders. Pimples disappear without scar when rubbed with raw garlic several times a day. Even very persistent form of acne, suffered by some adults, has also been healed with garlic. The external use of garlic helps to clear the skin of spots and pimple! and boils.
Wounds and Ulcers :- Garlic has been used as an antiseptic in wounds and ulcerations with beneficial results. Garlic juice with three parts of distilled water has been employed as a lotion for cleansing infected wounds. Definite improvement is noticed within 24 hours and substantial improvement within 48 hours.6 Application of dressing containing ]5 per cent garlic juice once a day over an ulcer removes pus in a few days. It also relieves pain within a short time. Russian physicians are making extensive use of garlic in the healing of wounds.
I doubt that sufficient allicin could be absorbed by the body to treat pneumona or some other illess as such. The garlic would have to be crushed and massively applied in poultice to obtain enough that even one clove taken orally would provide.
For a local topical infection it may work well applied topically.
I have no documentation for this. Just my opinion.
I doubt you will find a physician anywhere prescribling garlic poultice to treat a serious disease.... but you will find them prescribing specially prepared allicin products.
Last edited by Arrowwind09; 02-05-2010 at 08:08 AM.
I've been put to sleep with sodium penithal (spell?) twice for surgery and the instant they put it in the IV I tasted garlic as I also instantly went to sleep. I wonder where the garlic taste comes from...is there garlic in it?
They used Sodium Pentathol on me a couple of times when I was younger, I have no memory of the odor. There's no garlic in it, it just has its own garlic-like odor.
Here's a site of interest that says Allicin is not very bioavailable in the system/blood. They say that many products claiming to contain Allicin, are tested and show none. Also, that Allicin is not necessary for Garlic to possess its healing properties.
castor oil packs, pnuemonia, and a 6 month old
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