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While the United States has enjoyed a gradual decline in death from heart disease over the last 4 decades, eastern Europe and Russia have had an INCREASE in heart disease since the 1960\'s.
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The top two killers are cancer and heart disease. Heart disease kills less because cancer kills more.
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While the United States has enjoyed a gradual decline in death from heart disease over the last 4 decades, eastern Europe and Russia have had an INCREASE in heart disease since the 1960's.

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