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Question Please Help; I'm too young for this!

I am in my mid 20's and for the last few months my teeth have been brittle, decaying, falling out, and I have had a surprisingly increased amount of cavities. I have no gum bleeding. But do have fine "cracks", as well as the breaking seems to begin around the gums.
There have been many hi-stress events in my life, but I had previous doubt they'd have this much of an effect on my teeth!
This is very painful. I loose on average two days per month, only to be bed ridden, and in tears. I live on soft foods so that I will not irritate my situation. I do not have a tase for sugars, and cola has been out of my diet since elementry school. I have caused an ulcer from taking too many aspirin. (Witch I rely on daily) I have a family history of "bad teeth" (both grandparents on one side lost all their teeth by 30)
I have smoked socially for years. I have always brushed and flossed daily to prevent this.

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Welcome to the forum, D.O.

I'm sorry to hear of your troubles.

What's your diet like? Do you use any nutritional supplements? What kind of toothpaste are you using? Apart from your dental issues, are you in pretty good health?
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Thank you Harry;
I have corrected my diet from college days. I do eat balanced. No I took iron about 5 years ago for a circulation problem. Toothpaste is whatever lands in my cart. Usually Crest or the like. Yes, I am in good health for my age.
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D.O.,

I have a few general ideas that may be worth considering. Maybe others can offer additional suggestions:

As a starting point, I would consider avoiding sugar, soda (even sugar-free varities) and processed foods in general. I would stick to whole, natural foods as a good basis for a healthier diet.

In addition to that, I would consider switching to a natural toothpaste and possibly starting on a bone-building supplement. Many of the nutrients found in such supplements can also support the health of our teeth. A multivitamin and extra vitamin D might also help.

Naturally the smoking isn't healthful either. If you could avoid that somehow, it could only help.

I wish you well. I hope you find a good solution to restore your oral health and overcome any genetic obstacles.
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Oh my Gosh, at your age having this problem.

I think you have several issues going on.
First is a microbe problem in your mouth,
Second is a nutritional problem.
Third may be a fluoride issue...And I do think you can overcome it!
But it will take some work on your part.
You must also start eating lots more fresh veggies, like every day, veggie salads!

You need to address all three.
This is what I would do.

1. Stop drinking anything with fluoride in it. Purchase bottled or purified water if you must. Too much fluoride makes your teeth weak, crumble and become susceptible to cavities.

2. Get Xylitolwhite or Spry tooth paste. Don't ever use the other stuff again. These toothpastes will help to eliminate bacteria.
iHerb.com - Product Details - Now Foods, XyliWhite Toothpaste Gel, Refreshmint, 6.4 oz (181 g)
I just happen to have a coupon code for Xyliwhite and you will get it free if you make a first order. Put BAR967 in the coupon code. Anyone reading this can use it but I don't know for how long it will be good for. If you don't like Xyliwhite then try Spry next time.

3. For a while you will have to be offensive, like you need to get offensive, attack mode. Get some Nutribiotic Grapefruit Seed Extract and put one drop on your toothpaste and brush. If you can tolerate increase to two drops when you can. If your gums can handle it rub it directly on the gums and put some on your dental floss. Now be careful because if your gums are really bad it will burn. you want to work up to it.
iHerb.com - Product Details - NutriBiotic, The Original GSE Liquid Concentrate, 4 fl oz (118 ml)

4. Get some CoQ10 100mg and take one two times a day. This is the type I recommend. This will nourish your gums from the inside out and you can also poke a hole in the cap and apply it directly to your gums.
iHerb.com - Product Details - Healthy Origins, CoQ10 Gels, 100 mg, 150 Softgel Capsules

5. Vegital Silica may be helpful to strenghten bones and teeth. I wonder how your bones are? Take 3 caps two times a day for about 3 months, then 2 caps as maintenance.
iHerb.com - Product Details - Flora, Vegetal Silica, 180 Capsules
Now, the Flora bone builder below also has silica but you need to take extra for a while.

6. Take trace minerals, liquid is good, from Utah mine or this, or any that has at least 72 trace minerals.
iHerb.com - Product Details - Source Naturals, Colloida Life Trace Minerals, 4 fl oz (118.28 ml)

7. Take a low dose calcium/magnesium supplement. about 300mg on the calcium. One tablet of these daily will be Ok.
iHerb.com - Product Details - Flora, Bone Basics, 160 Capsules

8. Vitamin D, Purchase 5,000 IU caps and take 10,000 IU daily for 2 weeks, then 5,000 IU daily. This is one of the best products here:
https://secure.bio-tech-pharm.com/catalog.aspx?cat_id=2

9. Eliminate all sugar from your diet, at least until you are healed up. Try Xylitol or stevia for your sweetening needs. iHerb.com - Product Details - Now Foods, Stevia Liquid Extract, 2 fl oz (60 ml)
iHerb.com - Product Details - Now Foods, Xylitol Plus, 75 Packets
If you look around you will find some cookbooks for this stuff, like on Amazon. I often use them together cause if you use tooo much stevia it has an aftertaste, but it is cheaper than xylitol, which tastes the best. Together I can get a nice compromise.

I hope you find this helpful. I have managed to eliminate all my gum issues and have helped quite a few others do the same and I haven't had a cavity in more years than I can remember!

If you do searches on these different things on this forum you will learn just what they do and why they will be really helpful to your healing.

And BTW, D.O. to the forum!
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What about the possibility of too much fluoride?


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Could be your body doesn't produce enough collagen. Is there anything in your family history concerning bone problems and/or ligaments - tendon problems?
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I recommend you also consider something called MMS for gum and tooth health. You can read all about it on another forum on this website. Many people have commented about it helping their teeth and gums. Check it out!

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I am in my mid 20's and for the last few months my teeth have been brittle, decaying, falling out, and I have had a surprisingly increased amount of cavities. I have no gum bleeding. But do have fine "cracks", as well as the breaking seems to begin around the gums.
There have been many hi-stress events in my life, but I had previous doubt they'd have this much of an effect on my teeth!
This is very painful. I loose on average two days per month, only to be bed ridden, and in tears. I live on soft foods so that I will not irritate my situation. I do not have a tase for sugars, and cola has been out of my diet since elementry school. I have caused an ulcer from taking too many aspirin. (Witch I rely on daily) I have a family history of "bad teeth" (both grandparents on one side lost all their teeth by 30)
I have smoked socially for years. I have always brushed and flossed daily to prevent this.

Thank you!
Hi D.O.!

I think a supplementation of vitamin k2 and biotin may help. Good luck, hope you can find something beneficial for your teeth. I have teeth and gum issues, and have tried things like "pulling" with coconut oil, and using Sangre de Drago (Grado), I'm always open to new things to try, glad you're here looking for answers
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I don't want to preach but you should seriously consider giving up smoking.

Smoking inhibits the absorption of vitamins so taking any vitamins is a bit like

putting the cart before the horse.

If you make stopping smoking a first step you will be able to make use of any

good advise that you receive especially regarding supplements.

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Do you drink a lot of tea? It is high in fluoride.

The best advice I think was the vit D. Be sure it is D3 at those levels. See donaldmiller.com for more info. on fluoride, iodine and selenium.
Also Iodine can displace fluoride and most are low in Iodine also. Iodorol is a good brand. The rda is way too low as with Vit D.
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I suggest you to stop smoking. The cause of having a tar is the nicotine content of cigarettes. You should also have an annual dental check up to your dentist since you have a family history of bad teeth.
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Silly question time but do you grind your teeth at all? If so Id suggest seeing a Cranial Osteopath. As to the rest of the suggestions I sincerely they have helped so far. Id certainly agree with bone building and quitting smoking. The latter though Im sure you hear all the time. But as has been pointed out its more than just a lung clogger.

Give MMS a whilr but if it hurts too much reduce or knock it off altogether. Heres hoping this comes to an end for you.
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Thank you all who suggest I quit smoking for my health. There is no tar build up on my teeth lol. Like I said I smoke socially. This means at a lounge with friends, after a few drinks. Either a cig/cigar/pipe tobacco. Only then. I used to be a heavy smoker. I quit because I watched a friend die of smoking. Again thank you for your concern.
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Thank you all for your advice!!! Some worked great. Here is an update:
I am no longer loosing them, there is little to no pain.

I changed my diet to eat less meats, and never anything "packaged" or "fast". I stopped using toothpaste and swiched to baking soda. My dentist was no help on advise, but did pull the bad ones out. I started drinking herbal tea, twice a week. (not from Publix, the real kind with roots, twigs, and all) with, osha to promote circulation, as well as a variety of other herbs to help natural self healing.

I really don't like sugar, I mean cakes, pudding, gum, it's all gross to me.

No, I never was a big tea drinker, yes, family history concerning bone problems, I think that I grind my teeth at night when stressed. I am not sure. I do want to get a mouth guard to sleep with. (I wake up feeling like I need one.)

Is there any way I can "rebuild" what's lost. Some of my teeth have holes, or "dead" areas. I know that rebuilding bone sounds silly. I really can't afford getting implants where I have lost . I work as a model and it has gotten in the way of some shoots.
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