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Old 08-30-2012, 08:22 PM
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I know people have surgeries to remove Cancer tumors, that is the medical solution for that...

If someone came to the forum with a tumor and asked if he/she should have a surgery to remove the tumor or strenghten the immune system and all that, what would you answer?

Of course strenghtening the immune system should be done i guess either way, but would you say remove the tumor and strenghten the immune system, or strenghten the immune system and it will eventually eat away/shrink the tumor, hypothetically speaking..?
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Old 08-30-2012, 08:30 PM
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If a tumor can be cut out, I'm all for it.

Its the radiation and chemo treatments I have a big problem with.
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Old 08-30-2012, 09:22 PM
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Great, from what i know about cancer i agree with you about the chemo and radiation completely, MAYBE use just a little chemo and/or radiation in combination with other things, but thats up for debate and something i couldnt possibly speak about...

Now as far as tumors go i always wondered if one can build up the immune system to actually make it go and Kill the tumor, you know shrinking it daily untill it clears it out, or if one has to have it surgically removed...

But to tell you the truth i asked this for personal reasons. I do not have cancer. But i have what i consider a ''baby cancer'' = HPV, and if not treated right it will grow to become a real cancer and then im F'D!

So my cancer is HPV, and my tumor is Genital warts, thats how i view it...

And so if a tumor can be cut out, you're all for it, and my tumor can be cut out, and ive already built up my immunity to see warts dissapear without treatment, so all thats left is my ''tumor'', and i think eventually after having all i had untill now, im just gonna go all out with ''cutting out the tumor'', untill its no more...

Thanks pinball, i agree with that too because creams and applying stuff is ok, but i just dont see that doing the trick, its been a year and a half ive had this, and the only thing that actually gave me a wart free foreskin was causterization, and there are excersises to do to after all is done to restore the foreskin as far as scars and phimosis go, but i cant do any restoring while the foreskin is sick and infected with HPV GENITAL WARTS...

Anyway, thanks
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:14 PM
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I would not rush to have a tumor cut out even thought it is the only form of conventional cancer treatment that has shown some success. The problem is that before you start cutting and chopping you need to be absolutely sure that the entire tumor can be cleanly and completely removed. If any bits and pieces are left behind that can be worse then doing nothing.

It is my understanding that if your immune system is not up the task of killing off a group of cancer cells it forms a tumor to temporarily capture them and hold them in one area. This limits the damage that they can do and meanwhile hopefully you will be eating the proper foods and supplements to re-strengthen your immune system so that it can once again go back on the attack and start killing off those cells.
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Old 08-30-2012, 10:48 PM
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Thats perfect mad scientist, you actually cleared up something for me right now...

Again talking about me and my HPV issue... The first part of what you said can be done, if i choose i can even have the warts burned with a leiser which means burned deeper, to really get rid of the wart...the only reason i havent done that is aesthetic and phimosis... Im waiting for an answer from another forum about foreskin restoration excercises etc, if i can fix scars and phimosis after the warts are all gone, i dont mind doing more damage to the area, as long as it can be fixed after, and time is no object.

The second part of your answer is exactly what i needed to hear, thats it i know my immune system dealt with many warts which went away on their own, but the area where i had ALOT of them connected and forming clusters and whatnot is big (for a penis) and simply speaking its the fortress, the last line of defence for the HPV, and also where the attacks start from, so assuming my body got the upper hand and showing it to me by making all the individual warts dissapear, now the cluster left is just basically there to keep ''re-infecting myself''... to keep releasing HPV infection inside of me, and waiting for my immune system to drop again so that it can multiply crazy and start re-growing with nothing in its way to stop it...

And if i could get my immune system to concentrate on this one particular area im sure it would be gone faster, but i cant...And even if i could do that i think burning them/removing them surgically would be even faster (some 60 minutes actually). My immune system can deal with HPV infected cells flowing inside of my body one by one or dozen by dozen, but even if it does, even if it did i dont think the immune system is going to gather the forces and march where the million hpv infected cells are gathered, it cant it has other bacteria and infections to deal with and its not designed to do that anyway, i mean aldara should kinda have that effect but the side effects clearly show the body dont like that, its not how it functions...

So anyway ive almost made my decision, thanks...
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:03 PM
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You know the reason i think of HPV as a mini cancer is because HPV is actually what causes Fistly Breast cancer, but also penile and anal and throat cancer and others, and that stuff is scientifically proven...

So whatever one would do to treat cancer, one would do to treat HPV, just that HPV is like a 100 times easier to deal with, unless you let it run rampart and decide to ''live your life'' and ''live every day as if its your last on earth'' thats exactly the kind mentality that makes your days on earth numbered...

And the example for that was a girl i know, met her roughly 3 months ago, she had breast cancer, and she got ''cured'', doctors... So her mentality since she found out to have cancer at 22 was to live life to the fullest and all that, you know drinking smoking not sleeping and everything that comes with it, the cancer is now coming back and she is going back to the doctors and everything, and its just hard for me to watch, on the one hand its sad on the other hand its extremely irritating, like she dont care for her life...

Me im the other extreme, i find out i have Herpes and HPV (NOT cancer) at 21 and i go all out to heal and cure it...I literally dont have a life now, its just a healing mode, one road with no distractions, no stress, nothing actually the less things around me the better for me.
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HPV generally does not cause cancer. there are many strains of HPV and only a couple of them cause cancer. If you can find out what strain you have that might be helpful information.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:43 AM
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If I had blisters or abnormalities ANYWHERE on my body, I'd be hitting them with Lugol's solution. Can't hurt. Hmmm, iodine, something my body needs anyway.


I routinely blast my moles and skin flaps with iodine.
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