I got some pedimontise (I think it's called) frozen in vacuum packaging and was curious how long it will this remain good? I have called the supplier and they said it could go 2-3 years due to the beef being organic and having no ecoli or such bacteria and that they recommend their meats be cooked having a pink center because of how lean the meat is and having no bacteria and that if it has no smell it will be fine, but if I wanted to be sure, "cook it till done", they are about 2 years old, they still look good...if no bad odor are they ok? just looking for a second opinion.
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In saying the meat should be good, I am assuming that no ice crystals have formed inside of the vacuum sealed packaging. When ice crystals develop inside of packaging, the crystals cause freezer burn, which ruins the taste and texture of the affected frozen food.
Thanks, just looking for conformation.
I found a report on meats by our FDA that says basically meat can be stored frozen indefinitely and as long as cooked to a temp of over 160 will kill anything bad there, but just wanted a cooks knowledge, the ground beef had very little smell but smelled like raw beef, no slime and just a little crystallization in the package and I cooked it well done, just going to add it to some soup. Just wanted to check with people who cook...I can find the knobs on the stove, but beyond that all bets are off.
I don't trust that bringing meat to 160 degrees is an indicator of safety. I do trust boiling stew sizes pieces of meat or ground meat for fifteen minutes, however.
What about those banquets they had in the 1890s in Paris that served mammoth meat. the people said it tasted somewhat rotten, but after 50,000 yrs, I would assume it would be rotten. I pulled a package of lamb shoulder blades that were a yr old last week. They were fine.
Thanks, just looking for conformation. I found a report on meats by our FDA that says basically meat can be stored frozen indefinitely and as long as cooked to a temp of over 160 will kill anything bad there, but just wanted a cooks knowledge, the ground beef had very little smell but smelled like raw beef, no slime and just a little crystallization in the package and I cooked it well done, just going to add it to some soup. Just wanted to check with people who cook...I can find the knobs on the stove, but beyond that all bets are off.
Don't trust anything the FDA does or says.
There are some very nasty organisms that are not killed by heat or cold, no matter what temperature.
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There are some very nasty organisms that are not killed by heat or cold, no matter what temperature.
They have to be in the meat to begin with, correct? I assume when it was packaged? So is all meat just a guessing game and most peoples number just doesn't come up?
I got some pedimontise (I think it's called) frozen in vacuum packaging and was curious how long it will this remain good? I have called the supplier and they said it could go 2-3 years due to the beef being organic and having no ecoli or such bacteria and that they recommend their meats be cooked having a pink center because of how lean the meat is and having no bacteria and that if it has no smell it will be fine, but if I wanted to be sure, "cook it till done", they are about 2 years old, they still look good...if no bad odor are they ok? just looking for a second opinion.
Thanks
All the charts I have come across say to eat frozen beef within 8 months to a year.
However, on some cooking sites say (can't link to it because I can't remember where) if the frozen meat has been vacuum packed, it can have a longer freezer life. As long as meat stays frozen (no power outages, etc) it is technically safe to eat, but the quality of the meat goes down over time.
Guess you just need to use your own judgement on this one.
Personally, I wouldn't chance frozen meat over eight months, but I'm a chicken when it comes to the possibility of food messin' with my digestive track.
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Even freezer burn does not rule out being able to eat previously frozen meat although it may not taste as good and have good texture. Freezer burn is merely the dehydration of the meat.
Cooking to 160 will kill anything that could be dangerous but not likely to be there if properly frozen. People around here frequently put a side of beef in the freezer and keep it up to two years.. which is about how long it takes for a family of 4 to eat it.
Deep freezing is best for meat and having a freezer that does not defrost itself is preferable. It can keep for many many years and people in the old days ate meat that was freezer burnt by stewing it a long time.
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Next day...I am still here,...don't feel anything bad from eating it, I just never ate any that old but next time I won't even hesitate if it looks and smells ok!
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Next day...I am still here,...don't feel anything bad from eating it, I just never ate any that old but next time I won't even hesitate if it looks and smells ok!
Thanks
I was wondering about you today. Out of the blue, you popped into my head at work lol
Glad to know you're still kickin'
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�Look! Out the window! There is a flying cow!� St.Thomas Aquinas looked, and they all burst into laughter. He calmly replied, �I would rather believe that the cow is flying than that my friends would lie to me!�
To those foods (some of which I do not classify as food) I would add many types of dried beans.
In an archeological find by a university some white beans were found in an Anasazi cave. They were grown at the university and grew perfectly. I was given some second or third generation seed which grew perfectly also. How old were the found seed? Could be a couple of thousand years.