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Is there a safe way to raise testosterone levels?
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Tribulus. Whole name, tribulus terrestris. Natural herb. Used for centuries. Find it at your local health food store. https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikiped...lus_terrestris

https://www.bodybuilding.com/store/trib.html

https://altmedicine.about.com/od/herb...a/tribulus.htm
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I'd look at Dr Schultze's "Male Shot" herbal formula.

Personally, if I were going to go about it I'd use Bio-identical Hormone Re[lacement
in an oral application. Its not very expensive especially in the situation where the testosterone is
going down due to age.
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Hmm I have tried many supplements but not had much luck. I used Trib years ago at a high dose pre bed and get a big libido boost but this doesn't always mean a raise in test levels.

A friend of mine over in Canada is a genius with remedies , in fact he has his own radio show called The Remedy.

He uses celery seed as an ingredient for test levels and is getting good feed back. there are some test boosting products about but you need to be careful. The best results i have had are with products that focus on blocking Estrogen rather than on raising Test directly. I want to mess about with this when I get time. I think using something to support the adrenals, stimulate or imitate LH and block a bit of E will work well and I have some ideas.
remember you will need to make sure you have your basics in place, good Zink levels, Vit D, Magnesium...in fact food vit & min levels all around as well as a decent amount of choleserol. and good SLEEP!
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Have you tried raising your vitamin d status to around 60ng/ml with effective amounts of vitamin D3?
Effect of vitamin D supplementation on testosterone levels in men.

Most people require at least 5000iu/daily some more a 25(OH)D test will show how your body responds.
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Why would one want to block estrogen? that seems counter productive. Men are suppose to have estrogen. If testosterone levels are low it is because the glands are not functioning up to par. Testosterone naturally blocks estrogen in the proper place at the proper time.

Most men should not boost testosterone I would think. Only if their levels are declining over time. If a man is in his prime I think he has no business messing with it, just as women should not be taking birth control pills. There will be a price to pay if you can see it right away or not, so I am very conservative on this topic.
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Most men should not boost testosterone I would think.
But raising vitamin d3 levels nearly equivalent to those humans would naturally attain/maintain living mostly outdoor near naked lives and allowing testosterone to adjust naturally to that level (which generally means higher 25(OH)D = Higher Testosterone is simply allowing nature to sort out the problem naturally.
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Have you tried raising your vitamin d status to around 60ng/ml with effective amounts of vitamin D3?
Effect of vitamin D supplementation on testosterone levels in men.

Most people require at least 5000iu/daily some more a 25(OH)D test will show how your body responds.
Yes, I take about 7-10K IU a day.
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You may want to look into Fenugreek or Ashwagandha, here a few pages to review if you haven't already read them.

/f33/5567-question-about-ashwagandha-testosterone.html

https://www.energytimes.com/pages/dep...savvy1107.html

/f33/21214-raising-testosterone-levels-naturally.html

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But raising vitamin d3 levels nearly equivalent to those humans would naturally attain/maintain living mostly outdoor near naked lives and allowing testosterone to adjust naturally to that level (which generally means higher 25(OH)D = Higher Testosterone is simply allowing nature to sort out the problem naturally.
Yes, but that is a natural response to raising D3 to normal or healthy levels. There are many benefits for having adequate D3.

Its all in how you frame your approach. Your goal should to be healthy and in balance, not to raise testosterone. If your healthy and in balance your testosterone will land right where it is suppose to be .... so I guess we agree.

Only after all is done to see too it that diet is right and vitamins and minerals are in a normal range should one consider trying to elevate abnormally low testosterone levels.. and I say that if you are needing to do this then you should take the real hormone rather than an herb to try to push you in a normal direction.. and then be checked periodically to make sure your levels are staying in a normal range.

I cannot rule out herbs totally, but it makes sense to me just to give the hormone.

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OSTEOPOROSIS PART ONE
You may find what Jack Kruze has to say on testosterone secretion interesting.
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Yes, but that is a natural response to raising D3 to normal or healthy levels. There are many benefits for having adequate D3.

Its all in how you frame your approach. Your goal should to be healthy and in balance, not to raise testosterone. If your healthy and in balance your testosterone will land right where it is suppose to be .... so I guess we agree.

Only after all is done to see too it that diet is right and vitamins and minerals are in a normal range should one consider trying to elevate abnormally low testosterone levels.. and I say that if you are needing to do this then you should take the real hormone rather than an herb to try to push you in a normal direction.. and then be checked periodically to make sure your levels are staying in a normal range.

I cannot rule out herbs totally, but it makes sense to me just to give the hormone.

I would agree with this, except that "just to give the hormone" reportedly has the disadvantage that the body usually reacts by reducing its own testosterone production - while the herbs should cause an increase in the body's own production.
A supplement worth to be considered might be "Testofen" ("... is also a welcome alternative to many "pro-steroids" on the market that can be highly suppressive to the body's natural testosterone production, as well as potentially being highly liver toxic...")

Adequate exercise is reportedly contributing a lot to prevent and increase low testosterone production.
"... An increasing amount of research studies in men indicate endurance exercise training has significant effects upon the major male reproductive hormone, testosterone, and the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis that regulates reproductive hormones...
... Heavy workouts or physical exhaustion could potentially lower testosterone levels temporarily. Eating healthy, moderate exercise, deep sleep, low stress, can help maintain healthy hormone levels..." (https://www.raysahelian.com/testosterone.html)

Thus the (unnatural) causes of low testosterone shouldn't be ignored either.
E.g. adrenal weakness (as the adrenal glands also produce aldosterone, estrogens, testosterone, etc.), as well as abnormally high estrogen levels, caused by the pollution of our environment with "Estrogens and others" (hormones) "found in dairy products and meats. Some of these occur naturally, and many are chemicals fed to the livestock to increase their weight or for other reasons. Dairy products containing these hormone residues generally make the product far less healthful.
- Soy and a few other foods contain genistin and other compounds that bind to estrogen binding sites in the body. Once again, many scientists believe this is not a good thing, except perhaps for some menopausal women, a rather small subgroup of the population. I don’t think it is healthful for anyone, and is the main reason that traditional people have fermented their soy products to remove these chemicals.
- Contaminated tap water. Most American and Western European municipal water supplies contain residues of medical drugs, including hormones. Once again, this is not considered a healthful situation.
- Some pesticides and plastic materials contain hormone-like toxic chemicals that can mimic estrogens. These are very common today, unfortunately, and also quite harmful." (https://drlwilson.com/articles/hormone%20therapy.htm)

The administration of testosterone itself should probably be restricted as a last resort, if the other options are unsuccessful.
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Nettle root (not nettle leaf) is very good for maintaining testosterone levels. LEF has a great article that would be worth your study.

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Logically, one way of increasing libido in older men would be to block the testosterone-binding effects of SHBG. This would leave more testosterone in its free, sexually activating form.

A highly concentrated extract from the nettle root provides a unique mechanism for increasing levels of free testosterone. Recent European research has identified constituents of nettle root that bind to SHBG in place of testosterone, thus reducing SHBG's binding of free testosterone. As the authors of one study state, these constituents of nettle root "may influence the blood level of free, i.e. active, steroid hormones by displacing them from the SHBG bindings site."

The prostate gland also benefits from nettle root. In Germany, nettle root has been used as a treatment for benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlargement of the prostate gland) for decades. A metabolite of testosterone called dihydrotestosterone (DHT) stimulates prostate growth, leading to enlargement. Nettle root inhibits the binding of DHT to attachment sites on the prostate membrane.

Nettle extracts also inhibit enzymes such as 5 alpha reductase that cause testosterone to convert to DHT. It is the DHT metabolite of testosterone that is known to cause benign prostate enlargement, excess facial hair and hair loss at the top of the head.

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Have you tried DHEA? (It comes all sorts of strengths, but I would try 5 mg (the lowest) for a couple months.
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