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We had a very similar incident in Dunblane, Scotland a few years back. (It led to tighter gun controls - not that ours were anyway as liberal as yours are.)
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\nThese power-that-be are afraid of us because there is way more of us then there is of them, thus they need to reduce our numbers. But we are armed and that poses a bit of a problem hence the push for anti-gun laws.
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\nThe average person then rightly reacts to this with horror and disgust. But then accepts the �lone gunman� theory because it is too scary to believe that any group could be this evil.
\nThey then present the solution they�re looking for, the disarming of the people, and to many that sounds like a good idea. However once they get all of us disarmed then the extermination of us �useless eaters� can began in earnest.
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\nEarly December 14, 20-year-old Adam Lanza killed his mother who he believed loved the school “more than she loved him”, and then headed for Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown where he killed 20 children and 6 adults. As he heard the police approaching, he committed suicide.
\n“From what I\'ve been told, Adam was aware of her petitioning the court for conservatorship and (her) plans to have him committed,” Joshua Flashman, who knew Adam well, told. “Adam was apparently very upset about this.”
\nAdam Lanza attended the Sandy Hook School as a boy, according to Flashman. Nancy Lanza, Adam’s mother, had volunteered there for several years. Most of Lanza\'s victims were children Nancy Lanza may have worked with.
\nMultiple sources told Adam Lanza suffered from Asperger’s syndrome, a form of autism, and unspecified mental and emotional problems.
\nThose who knew him described him as “highly intelligent”, at the same time “ill-at-ease socially”, “but not a monster.”
\nThe police are questioning witnesses of the tragedy and examining the evidence. The investigation is expected to last for months.
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\n Inside the piece though they report Adam Lanza\'s uncle said the boy was prescribed Fanapt, a controversial anti-psychotic medicine.
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\n1) I\'m very mixed about that Knight. It is written into our Constitution that we have the "right" to bear arms. Airline pilots are now armed. That should dissuade hijacking by violence. There is one school in Texas that is being looked at as a model, where the teachers are armed. Not all of them, but enough to let people know not to mess with that school.
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1) I\'m English, my knowledge of the American Constitution is limited but wasn\'t this \'right to bear arms\' decreed when hostile Indians were at large, the country was still being opened up and most people shot wild animals for food. Plus the weaponery of the day were pistols and one-shot rifles. Times and societies change.
\nAs for arming teachers. What does that say about a society? In the recent case, it wouldn\'t have stopped him. He had a death wish. And what weapon would the teacher have? Up against a high-velocity rifle or sub-machine gun?
\nThrowing petrol on a fire! America needs less guns washing about, not more.
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\nAs jfh mentioned not everyone in a school needs to be armed and the �aunt Bea types� probably fit that description. But surely there are some able bodied individual who could take on that responsibly. Or what about our returning veterans who can�t find work I suspect that they would be up to the task.
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\nOther say the word �militia� in it refers to the military or police thus giving them the right to be armed. This to is false. Actually if one thinks about it it�s absurd to say that we would need a special amendment saying it is OK for our military or police to be armed!
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\nWhat the 2nd Amendment does is to guarantee a means of last resort to do just that. The founders also realized that over time governments and politicians can become corrupt, just look at Washington, and only a well armed populous can rain them in. Thus it was their intent that the people should be armed and armed with the latest military weapons! To put this into totally non-politically correct terms, when all other avenues fail it give us the means to shoot our politicians. For those that what to have dictatorial control over us this scares them, but then that is exactly what it is meant to do. So it is only natural that we see these anti-gun laws trying to be pasted, oh but they are only doing it for our safety of course.
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\nNewtown Massacre...the MAJOR DISCREPANCIES LIST
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\n 1) As yet, we have not seen any concrete evidence that any child died.
\n 2) As yet, parents have not been allowed to see their children. (Photoshopped pictures do not count.)
\n 3) As of now, I have seen only one unambiguous statement from a grieving parent (Robbie Parker).
\n 4) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother\'s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan - who officials say is very cooperative - claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?
\n 5) According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest, if he planned to kill himself?
\n 6) The medical examiner asserts that all wounds were caused by a rifle or other long weapon, and police/FBI say that the school was littered with .223 (rifle) casings. But Adam Lanza was found dead in the school with only handguns - a rifle was found in the trunk of his car. But then he could not possibly have been firing the rifle, and could not have committed the murders. Who did?
\n 7) According to the official story, the killing was tightly confined to two classrooms. But then why were so many children told to close their eyes while leaving the building?
\n 8 ) Joanne Didonato, the principal\'s secretary, called in sick on Friday - something she rarely does. So presumably, she must have been awfully ill. Yet she then felt well enough to give an interview. "Of all days," she said, emphasizing the strange coincidence.
\n 9) The hospital went into lockdown and cleared four trauma rooms, but received only three patients, two of them dead children (according to the official story) and one mildly wounded adult.
\n 10) Why were there such persistent reports that Mrs. Lanza was a kindergarten teacher, and that she died at the school, when the new official story is that she was not connected to the school and was killed at home?
\n 11) What happened to the report that Adam Lanza\'s girlfriend and another friend were missing in New Jersey?
\n 12) What happened to the woodsman in a black jacket and camo pants who was arrested and handcuffed outside the school? He actually shouted to parents, "It wasn\'t me." Who was he and what was he doing there?
\n 13) What happened to the dark van or SUV that the police surrounded in the parking lot, or the maroon sedan with a blown-out back window they were on the lookout for?
\n 14) The official story is that Nancy Lanza was a gun collector who obeyed the law. But since 20-year-olds are not permitted to buy guns or ammo or carry guns in Connecticut, why would she give her "autistic" son access to both guns and ammo?
\n 15) Why were parents told on Friday that "if you haven\'t been reunited with your child by now it\'s already over"? Does anyone imagine that real parents of real children would simply say, "Okay, the show\'s over, let\'s go home now"?
\n 16) Would real parents of real children really be satisfied with (possibly photoshopped) pictures of their children? Wouldn\'t they demand to see their children one last time firsthand?
\n 17) According to the official story, 28 people died but only 1 was wounded. The dead included 20 small, squirmy children - difficult targets even for professionals. How could Adam Lanza achieve such amazingly deadly accuracy, in such a short length of time?
\n 18 ) A child asserts that he/she heard someone say, "Put your hands up," followed by the reply, "Don\'t shoot." This indicates that the police took a suspect into custody inside the school. But if that was Adam Lanza, how did he kill himself after that point?
\n 19) Another child asserts that he/she saw a man pinned down to the ground with handcuffs on. Again, this indicates that the police took a suspect into custody. If that was Adam Lanza, how did he then kill himself?
\n 20) When Ryan Lanza was falsely identified as the shooter, who deleted his Facebook profile and created many others in his name?
\n 21) Is it reasonable for a geeky 20-year-old to carry two pistols and hundreds of rounds of ammunition while wearing a bulletproof vest and a mask?
\n 22) Why did the police say on Friday that they were going to leave the bodies rotting in the school until Sunday, then Saturday morning announce that they had spirited the bodies away in the middle of the night? Perhaps to ensure that the transport, if any, would go unrecorded on photos or video?
\n 23) Why won\'t police tell us where they found the Henry repeating rifle, the Enfield rifle, and the shotgun?
\n 24) Did the school have one or more security cameras? What do they show?
\n 25) Why did a police officer specifically mention, on radio, that "they\'re coming at me through this wood," followed by a fellow officer saying, "This is it"?
\n 26) One officer in the school said, "We\'ve got one suspect down." Who was that? Down in this situation generally means in custody(on the ground and cuffed), not dead.
\n 27) Why didn\'t Adam\'s uncle see anything out of the ordinary in Adam when the two saw each other in June?
\n 28 ) Why is Adam Lanza reported to be a loner when a teenager said (oxymoronically), "[Lanza and his friends] always gathered alone in a corner in school"?
\n 29) Why did police assign an individual state trooper to every grieving family, whether the family wants such "protection" or not?
\n 30) Why are Ryan Lanza and his roommates still in custody, and why are the police pretending that it\'s for their own benefit?
\n 31) Is it a coincidence that Nancy Lanza\'s brother is Kingston Police Officer James Champion, who lives next door to the former Lanza home?
\n 32) Since the alleged shooter\'s father is VP of GE Capital, and (like "Batman shooter" James Holmes\'s father) was scheduled to testify at the Senate Hearings on the LIBOR scandal, is there a LIBOR connection to this event?
\n This is a disturbing list, even if each point raised has a reasonable rebuttal. The authorities, after so many shootings with so many unanswered questions, are simply not doing an adequate job, in our view, to reassure citizens of their safety and law enforcement\'s general competence.
\n Over time, questions from multiple events become corrosive and tend to undermine civil trust. This would seem to be happening. Those in charge ought to be concerned.
\n Conclusion: A new methodology of public communication would seem to be called for.
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Another mass shooting. It getting to be almost like clock work, whenever we start hearing stories of large groups of people buying guns or a major set back in anti-gun laws (as just happened here in Illinois) it seems magically some brain dead drugged zombie pops up and goes out on a shooting spree. Then all of the usual suspects crawl out from under their rocks and wail about the senseless loss of live saying this proves we need stronger gun laws.

But why is it that in shootings like this the shooter is typically described as being in a daze? This to me is nothing more then a blatant in-your-face false flag attack. Some unlucky mope is picked up drugged out of his mind, brain washed, and given a gun pointed at a target and told to start shooting.

For the powers-that-be this is simply a problem, reaction, solution scenario and if some people die in the process �so what�.
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