I already have a Silver Puppy which makes 12 to 15 ppm.

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Arrow, I admire you for growing your own and participating in the farmer's market, that's a lot of work! I also envy your green thumb, mine is black.

I wondered about growing clover in your area. Even I succeeded in growing some in the yard to fill in some bald spots. Indians ate clovers both raw and cooked. The blossoms have been used for flavoring cheeses and tobaccos, also frequently eaten raw or can be made into bread. Tea is made by drying mature blossoms. I have an old edible plant field guide that we bought in the 70's and use for reference.

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"We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanual Kant~

We do have some clover in the lawn and pasture. I use to eat clover flowers when I was a kid. It certainly could be survival food.

You know, this is only my second year with a vegetable garden. Lost of mistakes made and learned from. I think a green thumb is something that you grow too!

Yesterday I lucked into some great fresh veggies at a small single farmer's stand about a mile away.
Bought 5 beautiful tomatoes, 1 small eggplant, 2 red peppers & green beans. It won't be long until
this season's home grown stuff is finished.
BTW, Aldi went up from $1.99 to $2.19 on their cottage cheese.
The same w/a jar of peanuts - 1.99 to 2.19. Their prices have been rising on almost everything!

So thats a 5% inflation of prices there. 5% here and 5% there... pretty soon your talking big money.

We started going to a local town to pick up meat, eggs and what ever else was available and they let us know by email when & where they would be to pickup and what was available that week. Since then we drive now to pick up from his building in Kansas.

If you could team with others, they could buy not only food but organic items, which I wish our supplier had as well.

Many people place their orders and prepay with the person who then goes to pick up everything - then pickup on certain days. The raw milk is so wonderful.

Your customers would know what was ready and plan their meals accordingly.

I also wish they had baked goods with non-GMO wheat. I bought quite a bit from an amish family but then wondered if they even knew about GMO.

If you had left over produce, you could then Farmer's market. I bet a group could become big enough to make a good income.

Our bank also has credit card machines which they charge .30 a transaction and 3.25% of each sell. It also costs $7.00 a month to have the machine in months not in use but could make it easier to not have to handle checks.

One more thing I really wish. I am the worst cook in the world. 40 years my husband has done the cooking but we both would love to find someone who cooked healthy foods for us to pick up. Might be something to add to your email one day and just see if other busy people would like to order say chicken/noodles or veg(your garden) salad.

Just thought of something else. Has anyone ever thought to hydrate their left over vegs because most would make great soups especially if a simple add water, soy sauce or whatever would make it taste good for people to easily make soups or add to their beef.

The machines I saw have many shelves - not sure time would make easy to make enough money but just a thought.

Thats a good idea and it had occured to me to make soup mixes to sell and adding my own home grown veggies would be great, that is if I can make it taste worthwhile. I don't have a dehydrator, its on my list... that unending list.

One woman sells fruit that she dehyrates.

grandmaflorist these are great ideas but we are so far away form producing large quantities of home grown food. Maybe some day. My husband and I keep chewin on ideas of what product to focus on... but we have to finish building this house first.

We sell salad mix at the market and it is a favorite. Next year I will plant greater quanties as I often did not have enough to pick to get me through the 3 hour farmers market. .. and when the green house gets done then I can offer salad stuff much earlier.

When the house is done and I have a decent oven I plan on baking bread. Non gmo wheat is great but my access to it is difficult. I don't think the wheat is gmo anyway according to some recent posts here by Ted. But it is so terribly hybridized that it a whole new creature and the article says that that is why so many people gain weight on wheat these days,, and perhaps why more and more have allergies to gluten.

Sure looks easy but so time consuming to build your own. What phase are your into? Is the sheet rock up? I have wired more houses than I care to admit and I refuse to help sheet rock.

Not sure what to suggest as I love most all veg especially canned okra. Hope it is healthy.

I know about the wheat too. 90% of our local farmers are all GMO yet they won't admit it. Even the large mills are owned by Monsanto. I sure hope they kept some of their seed because we have heard that these will fail and even though the US doesn't post much, we hear about it in places like Africa.

Have also been trying to set back food and water, due to the fact a shaking is coming for a season according to our prayer friends. We will need to be ready to help others. I like how you put it to people the six reasons to store food as they may set back for those reasons and not any other.

One more thing about wheat. Did you see Dr. Tuber's finding on the GMO crops and cattle. In fact he recently retired but wonder if he was ran out.
Here is the article. https://www.non-gmoreport.com/article...hosate_use.php

Arrow, I�ve been following this thread for awhile and have a few thoughts.

The sandwich bag idea sounds like an easy one to do. Sewing the plastic shouldn�t be any more difficult then sewing heavy denim. For the plastic material perhaps check out some plastic shower curtains.

You mentioned baking cookies. OK but rather then making a bunch of small cookies how about few really large cookies? As that would make them somewhat unusual and I suspect maybe less time consuming to make.

Also what about selling information? You could print a small pamphlet where you would compile a bunch of home remedies? Of course for legal reasons you probably would not want to call them home remedies but maybe rather a �history� of folk medicine like, �learn what your grandmother, and great grandmother and great great grandmother used to do to keep their families healthy�.

Thus strictly for �historical accuracy� you would then spell out what was required for each of these remedies, precisely how it was prepared and how it was administered, etc, etc. I�m sure you of all people would not have too much of a problem compiling such a list.

Naturally this could turn in to a long list, but it does not have to be done all at once, it could be done in sections. Matter of fact as each new section is finished this would give you a new volume to sell.

It seems to me that more and more people are becoming interested in this type of historical information.

Good ideas MS. The large cookie I will look at. I have room for one large 8 inch cookie in my oven

The shower curtain idea may be good. They finally make shower curtains that dont stink.. dont emmit chemicals... but still I wonder if they are food grade?

Acutally I have been working on a book for a while now. Don't really know if it will be suitable for a farmers market but I guess if im going to be standing there selling stuff I will put it on the table. So far I have 17 chapters... and heading to the city next week to interview a doctor for one of the Chapters. After that interview is put into a chapter it will be almost done. Will market on line as an ebook mostly. It will have lots of live links so print form will be more difficult for the reader cause if they want to see all that stuff they will have to type it in... but I'll offer both formats.

I like your idea of historical remedies... really I don't know that many except for a few herbs and a few antibiotic things. That would take more research, but might be geared to a farmers market better. I myself love to read historical books on medicine and I have about 5 on my shelf but its all allopathic for the most part. I dont have any books that offer real old time health advice except for a few herbals. Once I read a book on old time remedies for women's health complaints.. written at about the turn of the 19th century, an original copy. It cracked me up, and at the same time saddened me too, how women suffered and were so ill advised out of ignorance. It had treatment protocols that were really shocking.

How about a historical book on modern home remedies?

The issue comes up about writting advice on use of products.. then acutally selling the products.

You know, so much is in how you word things. Iggy took my attention to a web page on Dr Donsbachs site the other day. Now Donsbach has been though the legal mill all his life regarding natural medicine, He truely is an alternative medicine folk hero and has fought the good fight to bring truth and real products to people. Take a look at what he writes in his product information regarding lipsomal vitamin c complex that he sells. He is a rebel to his core.

It should be noted that Symplex C is not being sold as a cure for cancer. That is illegal, among other things. It is being sold with full knowledge of the vast amount of research which has been accomplished on enhancing the bodies ability to fight cancer through the use of these substances.

https://www.letstalkhealth.com/Symplex-C-32oz-p/601.htm

We have all read about the hell some alternative doctors have been put through for just suggesting that some one might want to consider an alternative treatment.

Thus a book like this could attract unwanted attention. But by carefully choosing the name and calling it a �history� and describing how this or that procedure was done rather then how to do it that way if someone questions about it being unapproved medical information you can simple say �Oh no this is just a history book�.

Sometime the best way to avoid a fight is to avoid getting into it in the first place.

Anyway when you get you book together let me know and I will be happy to be one of your first customers.