Hi Arrow, nice hearing from you again

I stopped taking the thyroid med for about 9 days because I forgot to re-order and had to wait for awhile to get it in the mail. I felt fine when I wasn't on it, on it or not on it, it didn't make much of a difference in those 9 days. I started to feel numbness in my right big toe again when I started taking the thyroid med again. Could this be related?

I'm in a process of doing phase 2 and 3 of the detox program. But before I start on phase 2, I have to do a 2-week heavy metal detox, again. I have to do a 2-week heavy metal every 2 months because of the toxic mercury fillings that they put in my mouth!

I stopped the thyroid med today even though she'd told me to just reduce the dosage. What do I do? I don't want to have iodism, or maybe I already have it? I won't see my doc until the 9th of next month. I'll ask her to prescribe a thyroid bloodwork again. I think I should just stop it altogether just to see what happens in the bloodwork. My fiance had been telling me to stop taking it months ago and I didn't listen to him. He thought I might get better without it, since it doesn't do anything for me really.

I can't believe those freakin' doctors, they even have a radio show in Houston, TX! What the heck do they preach when they can't do proper practice! And it's cash only! The darn "health and wellness" center is call Hotze Health and Wellness Center, so beware, or maybe I'm just the really unlucky one. Dr. Hotze(didn't "treat" me) even have a book call Hormones, Health, and Happiness...how ironic!

Generally if people are hypothyroid they feel pretty bad pretty quick, but it can take a couple of weeks for thyroid hormone to clear out.

One thought I had about your T4 being 0. Perhaps there is a pituitary malfunction. If you can stay clear of hormone therapy till you get retested I would try to do so.

I don't know much about Iodism, and I would suspect that it is fairly rare. It sounds to me that it would be the result of a metabolic malfunction of some sort, since the vast numbers of people are iodine deficient, and hypothyroidism is at at an epidemic level in this nation, I always wonder about those to claim not to be iodine deficient who do not eat an iodine rich diet. Smacks of metabolic malfunction to me. Things just don't add up. I hope your doctor can figure it out.

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While you are waiting Mia....

I could not post the entire contents of this important information; so here is the URL.

The Thyroid Gland

I was very interested in the role of mercury with the endocrine system. An evil role indeed. I have not read the entire article. Just too much. I will read a little at a time. I think it is beneficial to detox mercury constantly. The safe way is to do it slowly. The use of something like cilantro, which binds to mercury, is best.

I also don't think you have iodism. I feel that it would have shown up in some of those tests. Remember, the typical Japanese diet contains 12.5MG. The FDA recommendation is 150mcg. Quite a difference. Also, all this fluoride that we get in our water supply and the bromine that we get in our baked goods both displace iodine in our bodies. That is why Americans are so deficient. People in UK are probably deficient for the same reasons. Also, UK people drink a lot of tea (I think). The tea plant has fluoride too. If you are hyperthyroid, you would feel that you are allergic to iodine; because the thyroid does not seem to need it. Or bromide has replace iodine in the thyroid such that the thyroid won't know the difference. I use the Japanese as a model; because they are humans and consist of young, old, infirmed, pregnant, and nursing babies. 12.5MG is a lot more than you get in our diet. I believe that the thyroid medication, you take, may not even have that much if any.

You are a good person. Don't let the mainstream med pull things over on you. Do your own research. Ask them to point you in the direction required to research whatever they are throwing at you. You can do this without showing distrust; even though you may distrust. Just let them know that you are uncomfortable and worry too much about everything (like me).

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"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent." �Eleanor Roosevelt

My understanding is that cilantro will pull it out of tissues but you need to also take chlorella to pick it up in the gut so it won't be reabsorbed, one of the pitfalls of mercury detox.

Arrow, I thought that cilantro is able to cross the blood-brain barrier where even EDTA is not. I also thought that cilantro was able to bind with mercury all the way through the digestive system.

I would have said chlorella; but about 30% of people can't tolerate chlorella. This may be due to optimized function of the enzyme cellulase. If you are unable to tolerate this it would be wise to consider adding an enzyme with cellulase in it to help digest the chlorella.


If I am chelating mercury, I like to take an oxidant like MMS or iodine as well. They will oxidize mercury so that it is rendered harmless as it evacuates the body. That is my theory anyway.

Apparently garlic will oxidize mercury too. "Garlic has been shown to protect the white and red blood cells from oxidative damage caused by metals in the blood stream � on their way out � and also has its own valid detoxification functions. Garlic contains numerous sulphur components, including the most valuable sulph-hydryl groups, which oxidize mercury, cadmium and lead and make these metals water-soluble. This makes it easy for the organism to excrete these substances. " - Klinghardt Neurotoxin Elimination Protocol

Thats good to know about garlic. I've become a huge garlic fan last few years but didn't know that detail. I pickle it.

Thanks guys, nice hearing from you again Jim .

I'm so mentally exhausted trying to think and figure everything out, like Arrow said, it just doesn't seems to add up. Like, why is my TSH zero and T4 normal? If I have enough or alot of iodine and/or T4 then the TSH would not send messages for the thyroid gland to make more T4, that's why it's zero, which means I could be hyperthyroid instead of hypo like my new doc and Shapshftr said. I have been taking armour thyroid for almost 4 years and my symptoms aren't going away. I think it could be all about the hormones, and I was put on Armour thyroid for no reason and that is why my I have zero TSH and normal T4 because I never needed T4 in the first place and that's why the TSH doesn't have to send any messages to the thyroid to make more T4, don't you think? Yikes! I'm so confused, I confuse myself just saying it. I can't wait to get my old lab results from when I first started going to that doctor in Houston. I want to know what my thyroid hormones were. I can't believe STRESS had gotten me this way, that's the culprit!

By the way, my metal detox tinctures "Metal Magic" have both cilantro and chlorella in it. I believe those are the only two ingredients in them. I do two bottles every two months, or at least I try to. I'm so glad to know that garlic is doing more than what it does. I have been taking aged garlic tablets almost every day since Winter started to prevent infections from my colds. I'm still taking it while doing the metal detox, and glad that it's benefitting the process. I do believe that selenium also bind heavy metals and renders them useless. I love garlic, I use garlic pretty often in my cooking. I have been using garlic water for my congested sinus and also to prevent sinus infection. Garlic is also good for your heart, I have irregular heartbeat sometimes, I don't know if it helps in that department.

Hopefully after finishing the last two phases of the detox program most of my health concerns will be resolved, fingers crossed.

I will read "The Thyroid Gland" a little bit at a time too, there's too much I have to process in head, it's pathetic. I don't suppose to have to do this, the docs are paid to do this. Obviously I went to the wrong practice. I prayed so hard for the right help and thought my prayer was answered when I, or my fiance, found out about it--in a magazine, in an airplane. I tried to find help everywhere I went, even the third world country.

Meanwhile......

I use Swanson's "Metal Shield". All the right ingredients and inexpensive. I don't care for the taste of cilantro; so a capsule is good enough for me.

I like Arrow's idea of pickling garlic. My grandmother used to pickle and preserve nearly everything successfully. She would even dehydrate slices of fruit on sheets of aluminum in the sun with no problem. I've tried pickling and preserving; but I've poisoned myself too often. Once bitten, twice shy. So, I don't do it anymore. I always have activated charcoal in my medicine chest for such problems.

My grandmother was interesting with food. She was born in the late 1800s and lived for 93 years. She would eat every part of animals; tongue, brains, pig feet, etc. She would cook with lard (animal fat) and make gravies that were more like flavored grease. My favorite was "red eye" gravy that we would put on grits (ground up hominy corn). Red-eye is made with only 2 ingredients. Bacon drippings and day old coffee. Fond memories there. Those were the good old days; when we did not worry about cholesterol, obesity, etc.

Aww...Jim, I'm sorry you got poisoned so many times with those attempts. I'm sorry, I couldn't help but laugh out loud when I read that. I haven't laugh this loud for awhile, thanks for that, I just love how you said it. I guess that gene in the family didn't pass on to you right.

When and where did Arrow say she knows how to pickle garlic? I luv....pickled garlic! My mom tried it many times and failed. Some of her garlic always ended up greenish in color--I think it's mold or contaminated and not as crunchy. But she and my sister always finished the whole 2 quart jar without getting sick. I ate some too, but I picked out the ones that looked normal. Many times I crave for it with my meal. I could eat it everyday.

The first time I had pickled garlic and fell in love with it was when I was living in Toledo, Ohio. It was like 14 years ago, I met this lady at a friend's house and she'd brought over some pickled garlic that she made. One bite and I fell hard--not food poison, but in love with it. She made it just right, it was mildly sweet and tangy and crunchy, uh....I'm drooling just thinking about it. I tried to find her for the recipe and couldn't get in touch, so mad! I wanted my mom to have her recipe, because I always talked about her delicous pickled garlic every time my mom makes it--not that very often.

Arrow, does your pickled garlic turns out crunchy too? Don't mind showing me how? Pleeze.........

Okay, now you know I'm a pickled garlic fanatic

Mia, Arrow told about pickled garlic a few posts up from here. Maybe she will tell us how it is done. Right Arrow?

This is what she said: "Thats good to know about garlic. I've become a huge garlic fan last few years but didn't know that detail. I pickle it."

I guess I missed the last three words from Arrow's last post there Jim.

Okay, so here's my old lab test results from about three and half years ago when I to put on thyroid medication.

TSH----1.785 Range: 0.350-5.500 uIU/mL
Thyroxine (T4)----7.3 Range: 4.5-12.0 ug/dL
T3 Uptake----30 Range: 24-39%
T4, Free(Direct)----1.09 Range: 0.61-1.76 ng/dL

Everything looks within range at the time. I showed this result to my doctor on Monday and she said it looks normal. She thought maybe he's treating my symptoms. And she's right, except one thing, my main symtoms are not improving.

I know that many people have a thyroid condition and got tested and it came out negative. I also know that you can't rely on lab tests results 100% of the time. So, like I said, he is treating my symptoms and it's not helping. So what now?

I got another thyroid test done on Monday, after 11 days not on the med to see if my TSH is doing what it suppose to do, or should I say the pituitary gland.

By the way, the blood test for the antibodies came out negative. Doc said I don't have Grave's disease or something, something. That's all I wanted to hear "negative", and the rest....

Hey Mia, look what I found.

Kim Gunderson's (G&H Garlic Farm in Littleton, NH) Soy Refrigerator Pickled Garlic - Added October 14, 2005

Ingredients: Whole, peeled garlic cloves
5% Vinegar of your choice
Kikkoman's light soy sauce with reduced salt
Place the cloves of garlic in a jar with a lid and add enough vinegar to cover. Place lid on jar and store in the refrigerator for two weeks to "cure". Drain vinegar off and use seperately as garlic flavored vinegar. Place cloves into jar and add soy sauce to cover. Wait a week or more before eating. These should keep almost indefinitely, covered and refrigerated.

Here in Spain we have the most delicious pickled garlic cloves in small jars with herbs in the liquid they are in. I mix about 8 of them with about 6 tomatoes and liquidise them.....add some lemon juice and it is delicious on toast or toated baguette.

In Spain it is a breakfast dish called "Tostada con tomate"..... I am hooked on it and have it every day!! Good to know its all healthy too!!

You're fortunate Jualsy. I wish I could find some already made for sale. Maybe in larger cities. I remember them when young; and just like to eat the pickled ones whole. Just like a snack.

They are lovely....just looked at the ingredients and it says garlic, olive oil, wine vinegar water, salt and herbs. Sounds easy enough. I may try to make some myself next time round.

They only sell them in Mercadona....I guess its just a Spanish supermarket.