Candida Cure - is it possible?

raja

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Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n Those dosages use to be available though owndoc.com website but the feds came down on her and she can no longer sell it... so doing it through the program method is pretty expensive. I have found only one other source from china. I contacted Sara Voughtner about it and she thinks those products are contamininated, used for agricultural pesicide administration as opposed to the quality used in vet. practice for animals, so don\'t go that route. It really needs to be certified for medical use for animals.
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\r\n \r\n There is no cure for systemic candida as long as infected people continue to consume 157 pounds of sugar each year. The same goes for high fructose corn syrup, brown sugar, icing sugar, and all the rest of the "hidden" sugars, and that includes orange juice, apple juice, and grape juice.
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\nLong term megadosing with a good quality probiotic is crutial, as is avoiding antibiotics, fluoride, bromine, prescription drugs, and anything that will further increase the imbalance of good to bad bacteria. That includes showering with chlorinated water, puting chemicals such as bug spray, sunscreen, makeup, etc. on the skin.
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\nAlcohol is nothing more than fermented sugar, so all alcohol must be avoided. Also all grains have to be avoided because most are GMO, and most are contaminated with at least two types of fungus.
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\nFungi organisms communicate with each other, thus are hard to kill, unlike most bacteria, which are dumb by comparison.\r\n

raja

\r\n \r\n been there done that..no change..stayed on the "William G Crook M.D. diet" for a year, took 500 billion CP-1 probiotics/day,phytobioforte plant enzyme formula,chelated molybdenum,oil of oregano,wormwood oil,and everything else reccomended including using only stevia, no alcohol, no fruit, no carbohydrates, no dairy,..still fighting and losing with systemic candidasis!i\'ve spent,over the past 4 years, in excess of $6000 trying every "candida fix" out there and none of it works[for me] even MMS.just looking for some scientific evidence that just might work!\r\n

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been there done that..no change..stayed on the "William G Crook M.D. diet" for a year, took 500 billion CP-1 probiotics/day,phytobioforte plant enzyme formula,chelated molybdenum,oil of oregano,wormwood oil,and everything else reccomended including using only stevia, no alcohol, no fruit, no carbohydrates, no dairy,..still fighting and losing with systemic candidasis!i\'ve spent,over the past 4 years, in excess of $6000 trying every "candida fix" out there and none of it works[for me] even MMS.just looking for some scientific evidence that just might work!

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Don\'t know if you have looked into this but I did and it got me on the road to recovery.
\nYour Stomach Acid. Make sure its strong enough. Get some Betaine HCL from your fav health store and take one pill per protein meal. If you feel nothing go to 2 pills next meal..and so on. My acid was so low I had to take 5 pills per meal!!!
\nAfter 2 months, I\'m at 1 pill per meal. The stomach can be retrained to produce normally again.
\nThe stomach is the first line of defence, if its too weak, you will get less bile secretion, undigested proteins, decreased pancreatic enzymes, disturbance in the ph of the mouth, stomach, small intestine and finally the colon. A breading ground for yeasts , bacteria..etc
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been there done that..no change..stayed on the "William G Crook M.D. diet" for a year, took 500 billion CP-1 probiotics/day,phytobioforte plant enzyme formula,chelated molybdenum,oil of oregano,wormwood oil,and everything else reccomended including using only stevia, no alcohol, no fruit, no carbohydrates, no dairy,..still fighting and losing with systemic candidasis!i\'ve spent,over the past 4 years, in excess of $6000 trying every "candida fix" out there and none of it works[for me] even MMS.just looking for some scientific evidence that just might work!

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Call Dr. Biamonte, C.C.N., N.D. He\'s a Candida expert. Few health professionals really understand how to get rid of Candida but he does. www.health-truthcom He\'s in NY, NY but you can consult by phone. That\'s what I did and was cured of systemic candida in a few months. I had a hard to get rid of strain. I messed around with trying to cure myself for a couple years until I found him. The key is following a specific protocol that he developed that\'s tweaked for you personally and having him monitor your progress with tests until the tests show it\'s gone.
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\nYou call the New Patient Specialist, a woman who had Candida and was cured-' + '-Karin Witt, at 323-307-1162 or [email protected] to find out more or to schedule an appt.\r\n

gr0m1t

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been there done that..no change..stayed on the "William G Crook M.D. diet" for a year, took 500 billion CP-1 probiotics/day,phytobioforte plant enzyme formula,chelated molybdenum,oil of oregano,wormwood oil,and everything else reccomended including using only stevia, no alcohol, no fruit, no carbohydrates, no dairy,..still fighting and losing with systemic candidasis!i\'ve spent,over the past 4 years, in excess of $6000 trying every "candida fix" out there and none of it works[for me] even MMS.just looking for some scientific evidence that just might work!

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jfh

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Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n Apparrently Sara Vaughtner is selling it again through her website. www.owndoc.com
\nShe got slapped by the FDA and had to stop for a while. Dont know what changes she has made. Im so pissed with her for her scathing lies about Jim Humble I hate to send her any business. The article she wrote about Jim really reflects a very low level of consciousness and it makes me question her intelligence and ability for objectivity.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I see what you mean about her critique on MMS. I agree that MMS is not for everything, but she went a bit far.
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Apparrently Sara Vaughtner is selling it again through her website. www.owndoc.com
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\nAny ideas or answers would be greatly appreciated as this seems to be the one ticket we are all looking for. I will be starting shortly so Ilook forward to any input.\r\n

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\nyour bloodstream. If the Lufenuron is taken without food that contains some oils or fats, the patient will not absorb enough of it. A single spoon of oil is not enough! We unfortunately can\'t answer questions about
\nwhether a certain quantity of a certain food contains sufficient fat. A healthy diet has a lot of fat and it is up to you to select just three meals that contains more than a tiny bit of it. People on long-term fat-restricted diets develop impaired immune systems due to severe deficiencies of all the fat-soluble vitamins.
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\nDo not administer the Lufenuron with just oil, such as coconut oil. Coconut oil is a powerful laxative.
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\nPatients who took Lufenuron with coconut oil ended up with diarrhea and the Lufenuron won’t be absorbed like that. The Lufenuron should be thoroughly stirred into for example porridge, thick pea soup, dahl,
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I\'m not sure how it is really used. It says 1 X 9 grams. She says that 9 grams will be enough for one 330lb gorilla. Does that mean there is only one serving? I hope it comes with directions.
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\nthose days, the Lufenuron is absorbed into the fat tissues. Then the Lufenuron is slowly released again into
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Yes. Thanks Miss Arrow. I found it and edited my post. It must be powerful to be able to use once (3 days), then the fat releases it over the 2 weeks. I don\'t have very much fat, but I\'m going to try this anyway. I tried Diflucan twice in my life, but it was very short lived. I just wonder if this will kill other fungi as well as numerous varieties of Candida. I hate that I keep getting excited over these things, and then...\r\n

helpmyprostate

\r\n \r\n I bought 3 packs of 27g. She did tell me via email that taking more for severe cases is a good idea. There is talk of stacking it with other antifungals. I think that is real key. If I could go back in time i would take it with a pharma antifungal. I know this is taboo on natmedtalk but we are not talking natural obviously anymore. I believe what she meant is that I could take diflucan again with lufeneron because of the synergetic effect. She in email is not as complete about the mutated fungus being easier to clear with immune or antifungals. She does slam herbals on her email to me. She did say that this condition is "incurable" I am not sure if she is protecting herself but that is her opinion. I was lead to believe by her site that the infection is weakend to the point that it is easier to be cleared after lufeneron.
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\nI never got the answer from her about taking coconut and castro oil after the loading period from her. She just kind of slammed all natural antifungals as saying we would need enough cinnamon to kill us to be effective. I think serious sufferers would have to agree after enough have been taken.
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I bought 3 packs of 27g. She did tell me via email that taking more for severe cases is a good idea. There is talk of stacking it with other antifungals. I think that is real key. If I could go back in time i would take it with a pharma antifungal. I know this is taboo on natmedtalk but we are not talking natural obviously anymore.

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I\'m going to hope for one pack doing the trick. I don\'t count out pharmaceutical usage when I\'m desperate and have tried all the alternative meds. I recently tried Diflucan for the second time, because nothing else has worked. I am careful to replenish my flora, even with an antiFungal. I don\'t trust any pharm. I also don\'t trust a pharm damaging my liver. So I only took the Diflucan for 10 days each of those 2 times. Maybe that was not enough, so that\'s why it failed. But that is all I\'m willing to do. The thing about Difulcan (fluconozole) is that it is broad spectrum. I\'m not convinced that I have the common Candida Albicans, but I do know that I have various yeasts and fungi.
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\r\n \r\n Looking for help, suggestions and maybe personal experiences with lufeneron... Anybody try it yet or started?
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\r\n \r\n Medicinally, chaparral is hard to beat. The plant has strong antiviral, antibacterial, antifungal, and anti-tumor properties. Chaparral is also a great anti-inflammatory, and raises vitamin C levels in the adrenal glands. By strengthening the adrenals, inflammatory conditions are reduced in the body, stress responses are improved, immune function is strengthened, depression can be alleviated, blood sugar can be stabilized, allergies/asthma reduced, etc. Chaparral is an extremely strong blood purifier, which is probably in part due to its high sulfur content. Its sulfur content could also help explain its historical use as a hair growth agent.
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\nBy combining the powder with other powdered herbs, the other powdered herbs will help prevent the resins in the chaparral from clumping the powder in to a big �gumball� when it comes in to contact with water. This helps maintain a larger surface area, thereby increasing the absorption and effectiveness of the herb. In addition, the addition of other herbs can increase the effectiveness of each herb. For instance, chaparral combined with red clover blossom increases the antitumor activity of both herbs. Combining chaparral with pau d� arco (lapacho, taheebo, ipe roxo) increases the antiviral, antibacterial, and antifungal activities of both herbs.
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helpmyprostate

\r\n \r\n I remember when bowel movements were as problem.. Now finding one is a problem.. I was on diflucan (fluconazole) made by a local lab for 6.5 weeks. I am going to do that now again but this time I have a supply from colombia. I will mix it with lufeneron and then after with another pharma anti fungal (i hope with a doctors blessing) I think the third will also be taken with lufeneron as a clean up. I also am thinking lugol\'s as an added touch.
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\nCoconut oil is to be avoided on lufeneron loading days... I think I have used up all natural aids. I remember having the same bad gas and smell on gse as I did on diflucan but it only lasted a few days then I think the effect wore off.
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Arrowwind09

\r\n \r\n I have never used lufeneron and I don\'t really know anyone who has. All my understanding of it comes from Vaughtners site but I read some pretty good testimonials on Curezone regarding its use.
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helpmyprostate

\r\n \r\n jfh, Sarah states that one should be ok with lufeneron but she says for severe cases to take more than what is on her plan. She herself told me to take more and it is better as you want as much concentration on the candida as possible. She also says that one should take diflucan at the same time as lufeneron. Sounds fishy as you wont gage the attack properly but she has data on the synergetic effect of antifungals. Like a General we need to attack on all fronts. I would do it all at once and I am.
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\r\n \r\n Yes I have my lufeneron. I have three packages. Yes it doesnt take long for candida to become resistant to lufeneron. I does mutate to a chitin less form from what Sarah\'s site says. Then easier for our bodies to destroy the candida. I believe you want to fire this shot with all the cavalry you can get. So that is why I am waiting on a third if I can get one.
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Colloidal silver is one agent that has a tremendous
\nantimicrobial effect and has been used successfully in the
\ntreatment of many infectious diseases without visible side
\neffect (Wickless and Schwader, 2004). Our study has
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P. aeruginosa. This
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\ncolloidal silver in the treatment of some post operative
\nwound infections caused by this organism. Presently, the
\nuse of colloidal silver in the treatment of various infectious
\ndiseases is growing exponentially. It has been
\nshown that its presence near a virus, fungi, bacteria or
\nany other single cell pathogen disables its oxygen metabolizing
\nenzymes, and within a few minutes the pathogen
\nsuffocates, dies and is cleared out of the body by the
\nimmune lymphatic and elimination system (Hall et al.,
\n1999). Unlike pharmaceutical antibiotics, which destroy
\nbeneficial enzymes, colloidal silver leaves these beneficial
\nenzymes intact (Hall et al., 1999). An added advantage
\nto the use of silver is that it has variously been
\nshown to have high safety profile in vivo and cannot
\ninteract or interfere with other medicines being taken
\n(Iroha et al., 2007). Furthermore, it is known not to
\ndestroy the normal microbial flora of the gut thereby
\navoiding the negative effects of traditional antibiotics that
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\nSpadaro, 1981).
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\r\n \r\n I just got my lufenuron. Just finished the 3rd day of the loading phase. Nothing to report yet, but some die-off has occurred.
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\n Ellagic acid inhibits the fungal and yeast enzyme chitin Synthase II. All fungi and yeast need this enzyme to manufacture Chitin, a key structural polysaccharide used in their cell walls. By suppressing this key fungal and yeast enzyme, the fungi and yeast are unable to grow. When they die at the natural end of their life cycle, they cannot be replaced as long as the Chitin Synthase II Enzyme is inhibited. Since Chitin Synthase II is not a human enzyme, its inhibition does us no harm.
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\n Ellagic acid inhibits the viral enzyme gyrase. All bacteria need this enzyme to maintain the integrity of their DNA. By suppression this key bacterial enzyme, bacterial DNA unspools and the bacteria die. Since Gyrase is not a human enzyme, its inhibitions does us no harm.
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\n Whenever a cell becomes cancerous, our DNA sends it a signal to self-destruct. This is one of the most powerful safeguards we have in preventing cancer and it works the majority of the time. Unfortunately, it only takes one cancer cell capable of blocking this signal for a tumor to form. It is specifically those cells that are capable of overriding the self-destruct signal from the DNA that continue to grow and eventually form tumors. Ellagic acid reiterates the self-destruct signal in cancerous and precancerous cells. Unlike chemotherapy which damages healthy and cancerous cells alike, apoptosis, or cell self-destruction, only applies to cancer cells and other damaged cells that are no longer useful or safe to have in the body.
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\n Ellagic acid binds to DNA and acts as a shield, protecting DNA from mutagens, is a strong antioxidant and increases the expression of the enzyme p21, which arrests cell division of cells that have DNA damage.
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\nbest of all of them are beta sitosterol and ellagic acid.
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\nBeta sitosterol suppresses both 5-alpha reductase and aromatase so that takes care of DHT and estrogen.
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\nIn terms of prostate cancer, animals treated with beta sitosterol, had 43% smaller tumors and had
\n1/2 the rate of metastasizes over untreated animals.
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\nEllagic acid works by causing cancer cells to actually self-destruct.
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\nThe technical term for this is aptosis.
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Arrowwind09

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jfh, are you taking an antifungal medicine at the same time like diflucan or micronazole or something... the therory is that the breakage of the chitan will make the medicines more effective and that the lufeneron and med will work together.

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I\'m trying not to delve to far into the world of medicine. Lufeneron is supposed to be harmless, but antifungal pharms are not. I\'ve already tried Diflucan 3 times in the last 2 years. That\'s enough. I suspect my fungus is not only candida but also aspergillus, which I consider to be worse.
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\nI\'m taking Pau d\'Arco, chaparral, olive leaf extract, undecylenic acid, horipito, caprylic acid, and more colloidal silver than usual. That better be enough, or I will have to reevaluate my feelings for alternative meds. The biggest problem will alternatives is determining how much and how long and what goes together. But your organs and glands are preserved.\r\n

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I\'m trying not to delve to far into the world of medicine. Lufeneron is supposed to be harmless, but antifungal pharms are not. I\'ve already tried Diflucan 3 times in the last 2 years. That\'s enough. I suspect my fungus is not only candida but also aspergillus, which I consider to be worse.
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\r\nI\'m taking Pau d\'Arco, chaparral, olive leaf extract, undecylenic acid, horipito, caprylic acid, and more colloidal silver than usual. That better be enough, or I will have to reevaluate my feelings for alternative meds. The biggest problem will alternatives is determining how much and how long and what goes together. But your organs and glands are preserved.

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whoa that\'s so much! I can\'t afford many.
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\r\nI think we need to understand more about the structure of fungal infections like Candida too... things like inhibiting chitin seem very smart to me and much closer to a cure than anything else.\r\n

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I\'m trying not to delve to far into the world of medicine. Lufeneron is supposed to be harmless, but antifungal pharms are not. I\'ve already tried Diflucan 3 times in the last 2 years. That\'s enough. I suspect my fungus is not only candida but also aspergillus, which I consider to be worse.

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Cayenne has shown the ability to counteract Aspergillus as well as most other types of fungus. It also appears to help break down cell membrane walls.

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Thanks. I just started taking this as a supplement 2 days ago. 40,000 hu twice a day. I\'m hoping it will also break down cholesterol as it was recently mentioned. I\'ve also taken a lot of stuff for hypertension. I take so much stuff. One of these days, after many decades, something will work. I wonder if I will be able to tell which one of them worked.\r\n

hoppipolla

\r\n \r\n I think I\'ll join in here too as I\'ve been struggling with what is likely Candida for some time (maybe 2 and a half years or more).
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\r\nI am currently on an improved diet and mainly just very high strength olive leaf extract (also strong probiotics, some Kolorex, and intend to remove my 2 amalgam fillings and stuff as soon as I can). I am very interested in lufenuron and fluconazole and am considering giving these a go (fluconazole always seems so expensive though). I intend on staying on the olive leaf permanently (due to success stories and it\'s combined effect on blood sugar, the immune system, and candida directly). However... other than that I am 100% sick and tired of diets and guesswork. I think treatments like lufenuron are well along the right lines as they hit Candida somewhere it really hurts. I can\'t help but wonder if there is another component of Candida as crucial as chitin but as unused by humans that could be blocked as well, just for good measure!!
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\r\n \r\n So you think there is aspergillus overgrowth?
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\nI had a patient once who had a blue discharge out of her tracheostomy. I had to have the family or other nurse call the doc numerous times (I was the night nurse on a home care case) They just couldn\'t believe what we was seeing and it went on for weeks before they finally did anything about it. They kept insisting someone in the family was feeding her blue popsicles regardless of our insistance not... she had an aspergillus overgrowth.. don\'t know if all forms of aspergillus are blue though. I had only seen it that one time.
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\nWhile thinking about blue, have you ever tried flushing your sinus with the classic blue formula for dogs ear candida infection? ... made with gentian violet and Boric acid if I remember right and isopropol alcohol but you could probably figure out something else for that part.... like just pain water for I know the gentian violet and boric acid dont need it to be effective.
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\nIt worked like a charm on my dogs candida ears.
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\r\n \r\n Hey jfh how is it going? I am both curious about your health and the effect of lufeneron on it. Have you had any die to speak of?
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jfh

\r\n \r\n I am only in my first week. I could not tell if I have detox reaction, because it is now cedar fever time in central Texas. My immune system is being severely tested. I\'m getting only 3 to 4 hours sleep. Even antihistamines are worthless, and I even tried a homeopathic remedy that seems to help a lot of people. I even drank juniper berry tea for a while. Nothing ever works for me.
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\nThe male mountain cedars (junipers) put out so much pollen that it looks like smoke from a fire. I live in a forest of them. https://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/C...ral-Texas-hard\r\n

helpmyprostate

\r\n \r\n How we doing JFH? Any die off? I hope you are doing better. At least you have the sun shine in texas..

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Arrowwind09 · � #1 � 02-05-2011, 02:48 PM

Candida Cure - is it possible?

I have delt with candida since age 17. It was caused by the use of antibiotics in most people. For my first treatment the doctor gave me a double whammy of antibiotics... go figure.

I have learned much since then. I now have a strain that does not cure easily. This past winter with another infection I had to try multiple antifungals to get results. Diflucan does not work. I ended up using a medicine that causes me significant side effects of pain, at twice the dosage for twice as long as most people would require.

So once again I started my search for a cure. Everyone who has chronic and mutated candida says there is no cure. Only stringent lifestyle modifications can control it and Im not too pleased with that option.

Some medical doctors and natuopaths are determining that some cancer cases are caused by fungal infection and from the work they do it is clear to see that they most likely are quite right. This is most disconcerting for me.

So in my most recent search I went to www.curezone.org and found the testimonial of a man who says he cured his chronic oral thrush of 11 years duration with a protocol he found elsewhere on the internet. I followed his links and read the material. I am presenting them to you for your consideration. I decided that if it came to it I would do this protocol. Everyone makes their own decisions.... as should you.

go to this website and click on Candida in the toolbar:
www.owndoc.com

Here you will find an article on the treatment of chronic candida with a drug called Lufeneron. Read it in its entirity. The site provides a link for a PDF file on the use of Lufeneron. I suggest that you download it as I have done so you will be sure to have it for future reference. In the PDF file you will find links to studies done with this drug on primates.

Sara Vaughtner, the owner of this site use to sell Lufeneron. She has recently been stopped by the authorities in her country. She has a forum where she will answer peoples questions on its use. I have exchanged emails with her a few times.

Lufenuron is available though over the counter purchase and though vetinarians in a product produced by Novartis called Program. You want no other product nor any product that mixes lufeneron with other drugs. It is a little spendy to do but probably well worth it if it works.

The following file gives specific instructions for using Lufeneron.

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