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\r\n \r\n As some of you might already know from my former post on here, I found out that I had Hep.C a year ago, when my stomach filled up with fluids, [ascites] and my belly button ruptured from the large amount of fluids, which I was taken to the hospital, where they drained 7.2 liters of fluid out of my stomach, and put me on diuretics.
\n I had also become very weak and ended up in a wheel chair for some time.
\n After initial blood screening and CT scan, I was told that I had end-stage Hep.C and given 6 months or less to live. From that point I was referred to a Liver specialist who told me that I was too far in the 4th stage to be considered for the standard interferon treatments and the 6 months or less, was re-confirmed... that I should just go home to get my ducks in order. Nothing short of a liver-transplant would help.
\n Over the past year I\'ve researched and have treated myself at home with herbs. to slow down the progression of the virus, and from a years worth of trial and error testing with herbal treatments, the most effective I\'ve found to help control the virus is with a liver formula herbal blend called:Xiao Chai Hu San, which I made into the 00 sized capsules. This with other basic herbs like Milk Thistle etc. helped a lot, but though I\'ve heard of those cases where Hep.C virus was healed with herbal methods, I\'ve never been able to stop the virus with herbs, even with my best efforts to do so. This lead me to continue "Searching"...and lead me to run across the news about the MMS.
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\nNOTE: I would also like to mentioned that after reading several of the post on here about MMS, I wanted to give the MMS a "True Testing" for myself, without any outside influences, so I stopped taking any herbs while taking the MMS, though I did continue taking supplements of Vitamin B-12,B-6 etc.but not within an hour of taking any MMS. My Goal was to let the MMS stand-alone upon it\'s own Merit. I\'m not one that buys into or puts a lot of faith in blown-up advertisements or claims by others. Is MMS for real? And if so, just how good is it? And how effective is it without any help from outside sources like herbs or etc. taken along with it? I don\'t drink, and stick to a healthy diet. ~ So here\'s my results of finding the answers to these questions.
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\n I ordered a bottle of MMS and after receiving it, I started taking it Mar.8th, 2010. But to not get ahead of myself here, here is my blood test results BEFORE and AFTER starting on MMS.
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\n The results of my Liver panel blood test dated:
\n .......Feb.3rd, 2010.~ April 2nd,2010.
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\nALT~{ SGPT } *85 ~*25 Normal Range: < 0 - 48 >
\nAST~{ SGOT } *54 ~*21 ............< 0 - 37 >
\nAlkaline Phos. *168 ~ *153 ..........< 20 - 136 >
\nGlucose ........*130 ~*107 ..............< 65 - 115 >
\nAnion Gap ......*9.0 ~*16.0 ..........< 10. - 20.>
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\nNote: I started the MMS [Mar.8th], with only 1 drop per day for the first few days, and then started to slowly ramp up to 10 drops once a day on Mar.17th. ~Then I started to take more doses per day on Mar.18th.
\nMar.18th= 12; 8; and 10drop dose for a total of 3 doses that day.
\nMar.19th= 10; 10; 8; 10 drop doses. [Got mild stomach upsets]
\nMar.20th= 10; 10 drop doses. Figured out that I needed a different juice
\nMar.21st= 7; 7; 7;drop doses Started taking it with 100%pure Prune Juice
\nMar.22nd= 7;7;7;7;3;3;7 drops. Read that more doses works better.
\nMar.23rd= 9;9;9;9;9;drops. Being aggressive with hammering the virus!
\nMar.24th= 7;7;7;7;7,drops. The ole\' stomach upsets again..dropping back.
\nMar.25th= 5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5,drops. Hammering every hr. all day long!!
\nMar.26th=5;5;5;10;5;5;10;10;8,drops. Being aggressive again!
\nMar.27th=5;5;7;7;7;10;5,drops Feeling my oats and getting outdoors more
\nMar.28th=5;8;5;6;5;5;5;5,drops. Having mild "D" every morning but okay.
\nMar.29th=5;5;5;6;5;6;5,drops. Losing energy, toxic build up..
\nMar.30th=5;5;5;5;5;7;5;5;5, ~Ignoring side effects, Enough of this Virus!
\nMar.31st=3;3;5;4;5;4;3;4.~Had 2 big "D" dumps this morning! feeling sick.
\nApr.1st=5;3;4;3;3;4, Spacing does out every couple hrs. or so now..
\nApr.2nd=5;3;4;4;3;3.Had BLOOD TEST 2 hrs.after 1st dose this morning.
\nApr.3rd=3;3;3;3;3;3;5;5, Planning to continue with lower doses....
\nApr.4th=3;3;3;3;4. Will continue taking moderate doses like this now for another few months, so as to pick up any hidden viruses in lymph nodes, tissue, or tooth fillings.
\n*sleeping much better than before, better appetite too. Now that my blood test is established...I\'m going back on some herbs to help clear out the toxin and to stiffen up my immune system too. Will see how that goes with my next blood test in May.
\n The above Blood Test stands on it\'s own merits and needs no further proof as far as I\'m concerned, simply because I\'ve "NEVER" seen such a Normal reading with any of my blood-test over the past year, as I have with the MMS. And in such a short period of time too.
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\nI went to see my physician last Thursday for my quarterly blood tests for HIV. I will post my results when I get them. I don\'t know of anyone on the planet who has actually listed their pre and post MMS results on the internet. If I am wrong let me know the source.
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\nInstead of buying my third bottle of MMS1 and Citric acid, I decided to make my own by buying the MMS powder off the net and buying the citric acid from the health food store.
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\nI have been on MMS1 since mid September 2009. Not always consistent with the dosages; some days more; days less depending on my work schedule. I have taken MMS2 faithfully 4x every day since from March 2-28, 2010.
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\nI didn\'t tell my doctor that I was using MMS. I am not sure if the standard blood checks for the antibodies versus checks for the virus. I may always have the antibodies. Currently the test say that I am below detectible levels while I am on the medications. That doesn\'t mean the virus is not there just that it is below the threshold.\r\n
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\n With the HIV, that\'s great that you have undetectable, but the question popped into my mind, "If MMS is the most powerful viral killer known to mankind, why is their a need for a prescription medication?" Just curious, okay?
\n I totally understand what you mean with getting busy, I know that when I go somewhere for a few hours, I\'ll take the MMS with me in a small [lunch box] type ice chest, and a thermoses bottle of cold prune juice.
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\n So taking a dose while traveling or etc, is made ease to stop in a parking lot or sit down somewhere, and in a few minutes, the "break" is over and I\'ll continue on again, or I\'ll get my dose in before going into a store or whatever.
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\n I\'ve found that with the Prune Juice, I only take about 1/5 of a glass for the 3 drop activated mix, [1/4 glass with 5 drops], opposed to having to take 1/2 glass of cranberry or apple-juice to mask the taste.
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\nWhile taking the MMS1, I do notice a spring in my step. I don\'t care for the diarrhea but at least I rarely get nauseous.
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\nI agree Arrowwind, I am aware how some physician\'s may raise eyebrows. I am awaiting for definitive tests.
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\nIn response to Hobo\'s question regarding taking med\'s while using MMS, my theory was that taking the med\'s brought me to non-detectible (not curative) levels. So if the viral load is that low, why not add MMS1 and MMS2 to augment the fight? Since I never spoken to anyone or seen any written doc\'s with before and after HIV results, I wasn\'t willing to allow my prior results (which were great) to be at risk. I am a definitely one of those "show me, prove me wrong" kind of guys.\r\n
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I have been on MMS1 since mid September 2009. Not always consistent with the dosages; some days more; days less depending on my work schedule. I have taken MMS2 faithfully 4x every day since from March 2-28, 2010.
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Testimonies on the Hallelujah Acres website have been submitted voluntarily without promise of compensation or publication. Claims expressed are solely those of the individual; these claims have not been verified, nor are they intended to represent typical results of making a diet change.
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\nI didn\'t mean to imply that what you have purchased is weaker or ineffectual. Obviously, with your recent lab tests, you are getting great results. That being said, here are my lab results.
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\nI just spoke with my physician and he mentioned that the ALL viruses remain in your body forever at various levels. If the levels are low enough, you will not experience the symptoms associated with that virus (e.g: cold viruses). The typical HIV tests will reveal your CD4 counts and whether or not your viral load is greater than 48 viral copies/ ddl. If less than 48 copies per dll, then it is considered "nondetectable". The final item is that the normal ranges for CD4 counts are from 379 to 1885. That being said, counts can flucuate +/- 200 easily depending on the time of day, the testing lab used, diet, etc.
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\nok, so here are my results which quite frankly won\'t tell you anything definitive. I have been on MMS1 since late September 2009. Started MMS2 since April 2, 2010
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\nJuly CD4 683 viral load nondetectable
\nDec CD4 699 viral load nondetectable
\nApril 2010 CD4 529 viral load nondetectable
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\nI am not concern about the CD4 count because I knew I was eating crappy lately although it would have been nice to see a significant jump. I had a big piece of Las Vegas Cheese cake the night before at the Mirage Casino eventhough I know sugar is very bad for your immune system for 8 hours.
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\nBottomline: For those that say that they have been cured of HIV/AIDS; I would like to see the documents myself. None of this hearsay stuff. The only other way I could test this is by having a HIV test done anonymously in a different city to see if it comes back positive.
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\nNow I have to get my immune system stronger to increase my CD4 counts. any ideas?\r\n
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\n I\'m not really sure how that works, or the CD4, but it sure looks great anyway! I wish there was some way that we could scan our blood test and post it, as that sure would be better than trying to get all the lines to line up in typing all the items on a blood test.
\n A comprehensive blood test shows a great deal...sort of like a road map of what\'s going on inside.
\n You asked about something to build up the immune, I was just wondering that myself recently so had to hit the ole\' books to brush up on that, The Immune Stimulants basically remove the "immune blocks", and are Hydrangea Root, Methyl Sulfony1 methane, [MSM], Papain, and Bromelain. But there are other considerations that goes along with your immune system too, such as What is your oxygen level while sitting down, quiet and calm? Is it above 95 or 96%? If you are reading in the low 90% while laying around, then you\'d look into you\'re hemoglobin levels to see why your lungs 02 to plasma exchange isn\'t functioning normal.. The blood flow circulation goes in a cycle, the blood being filtered through the liver and spleen then dumping off the waste from the blood into the bowls, and on the return trip the plasma picks up a new oxygen supply to transport energy etc. to all the cells, exchanging to pick up cell waste etc. again, and recycling goes on.. a disruption to this basic cycle shows up as a loss of energy, the plasma can\'t take on as much oxygen if it\'s still over loaded with waste that it could not process or eliminate...etc. etc. So you could take herbs to boost the immune...but that really might not be the problem...see what I\'m getting at? It could be due also to your Albumin to Globulin ratio being too far out of balance, which could be caused by the 03 from doses, without a balance of the globulin being properly exchanged with your 02 exchange through your lungs.
\n I\'m not saying that you have a problem with any of these, just some things to look at if you feel that you\'re immune isn\'t boosting as well as it should. okay?
\n If I might suggest a more of a combined coverage, that would include an alternative is both a great detoxifier, immune support and waste cleaner/mover too, all in one herb. Wheatgrass.. it contains over 104 minerals and vitamins, everything that the body needs to maintain a health balance, with the exception of carotene. It comes in little green tablets and 7 tablets is equivalent to a full helping of green veggies. 20 tablets a day is recommended.. But I\'d say 30 tabs. over the course of a day until you\'re doing the "On Top of the World Dance again". Just my 2 cents anyway.
\n I can also send you some red reshie, [on the house of course :-} L-Glutamine is another good one that is a building block for increased proteins,....and the list goes on and on...
\n I was just looking back over everything here, and there is so much more that could be explained but hope this will suffice for now.
\n P.S. You\'re killing me with that news of you pigging out on the Las Vegas Cheese cake.. That sounds soooo good!!! :-}
\n Oh... I wanted to ask you a question, if you know, I read on another forum that if a person with Hep.C is in their 4th stage with symptoms such as mine, ascities etc. that the liver is so damaged already that it can not repair or regenerate itself, even if the virus was wiped out.
\n I didn\'t like the sound of that at all.. ~ I mean it\'s the "hope" of becoming well again, that\'s kept me fighting all this time... and if their is no \'hope\', then what\'s the sense? Is that poster right about my liver not being able to regenerate or healing itself out of the 4th stage failure? I\'m just really confused about this now.\r\n
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\n I guess it\'s really not up to me anyway.. all I can do is try my best and if that doesn\'t work for some reason, then the Father\'s Will be done and that\'s okay too.
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\nIf you have enough liver to be up and sitting at your computer and walking around you have enough liver to regenerate. Ignore the naysayers. Don\'t let the nay sayers become your slayers.
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\nI am using MMS1 and MMS2 for HIV and was hoping to be able to share some great results. I emailed my experiences and results to Jim Humble. I am still taking maintenance dosages of both. Only way for me to know for certain is to take a HIV test anonymously. Eventhough, I am taking HIV med\'s; I don\'t believe they are causing HIV as Humble once asserted. Possibly side affects as all medications and OTC products can.
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\nThis is a great site, I\'ve never heard of that Idebeonone before, very interesting! Thanks!
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That\'s great Geraldine! What I especially liked is your "positive attitude", this is one method of treatment that is far more powerful than pills or capsules that we shove into us to treat various things.. The truth of this is such a low consideration when dealing with the material world though..
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Thumbs up Before-After "Blood Test Results" for Hepatitis

As some of you might already know from my former post on here, I found out that I had Hep.C a year ago, when my stomach filled up with fluids, [ascites] and my belly button ruptured from the large amount of fluids, which I was taken to the hospital, where they drained 7.2 liters of fluid out of my stomach, and put me on diuretics.
I had also become very weak and ended up in a wheel chair for some time.
After initial blood screening and CT scan, I was told that I had end-stage Hep.C and given 6 months or less to live. From that point I was referred to a Liver specialist who told me that I was too far in the 4th stage to be considered for the standard interferon treatments and the 6 months or less, was re-confirmed... that I should just go home to get my ducks in order. Nothing short of a liver-transplant would help.
Over the past year I've researched and have treated myself at home with herbs. to slow down the progression of the virus, and from a years worth of trial and error testing with herbal treatments, the most effective I've found to help control the virus is with a liver formula herbal blend called:Xiao Chai Hu San, which I made into the 00 sized capsules. This with other basic herbs like Milk Thistle etc. helped a lot, but though I've heard of those cases where Hep.C virus was healed with herbal methods, I've never been able to stop the virus with herbs, even with my best efforts to do so. This lead me to continue "Searching"...and lead me to run across the news about the MMS.

NOTE: I would also like to mentioned that after reading several of the post on here about MMS, I wanted to give the MMS a "True Testing" for myself, without any outside influences, so I stopped taking any herbs while taking the MMS, though I did continue taking supplements of Vitamin B-12,B-6 etc.but not within an hour of taking any MMS. My Goal was to let the MMS stand-alone upon it's own Merit. I'm not one that buys into or puts a lot of faith in blown-up advertisements or claims by others. Is MMS for real? And if so, just how good is it? And how effective is it without any help from outside sources like herbs or etc. taken along with it? I don't drink, and stick to a healthy diet. ~ So here's my results of finding the answers to these questions.

I ordered a bottle of MMS and after receiving it, I started taking it Mar.8th, 2010. But to not get ahead of myself here, here is my blood test results BEFORE and AFTER starting on MMS.

The results of my Liver panel blood test dated:
.......Feb.3rd, 2010.~ April 2nd,2010.
__________ ____________
ALT~{ SGPT } *85 ~*25 Normal Range: < 0 - 48 >
AST~{ SGOT } *54 ~*21 ............< 0 - 37 >
Alkaline Phos. *168 ~ *153 ..........< 20 - 136 >
Glucose ........*130 ~*107 ..............< 65 - 115 >
Anion Gap ......*9.0 ~*16.0 ..........< 10. - 20.>
__________________________________________________ _____
Note: I started the MMS [Mar.8th], with only 1 drop per day for the first few days, and then started to slowly ramp up to 10 drops once a day on Mar.17th. ~Then I started to take more doses per day on Mar.18th.
Mar.18th= 12; 8; and 10drop dose for a total of 3 doses that day.
Mar.19th= 10; 10; 8; 10 drop doses. [Got mild stomach upsets]
Mar.20th= 10; 10 drop doses. Figured out that I needed a different juice
Mar.21st= 7; 7; 7;drop doses Started taking it with 100%pure Prune Juice
Mar.22nd= 7;7;7;7;3;3;7 drops. Read that more doses works better.
Mar.23rd= 9;9;9;9;9;drops. Being aggressive with hammering the virus!
Mar.24th= 7;7;7;7;7,drops. The ole' stomach upsets again..dropping back.
Mar.25th= 5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5,drops. Hammering every hr. all day long!!
Mar.26th=5;5;5;10;5;5;10;10;8,drops. Being aggressive again!
Mar.27th=5;5;7;7;7;10;5,drops Feeling my oats and getting outdoors more
Mar.28th=5;8;5;6;5;5;5;5,drops. Having mild "D" every morning but okay.
Mar.29th=5;5;5;6;5;6;5,drops. Losing energy, toxic build up..
Mar.30th=5;5;5;5;5;7;5;5;5, ~Ignoring side effects, Enough of this Virus!
Mar.31st=3;3;5;4;5;4;3;4.~Had 2 big "D" dumps this morning! feeling sick.
Apr.1st=5;3;4;3;3;4, Spacing does out every couple hrs. or so now..
Apr.2nd=5;3;4;4;3;3.Had BLOOD TEST 2 hrs.after 1st dose this morning.
Apr.3rd=3;3;3;3;3;3;5;5, Planning to continue with lower doses....
Apr.4th=3;3;3;3;4. Will continue taking moderate doses like this now for another few months, so as to pick up any hidden viruses in lymph nodes, tissue, or tooth fillings.
*sleeping much better than before, better appetite too. Now that my blood test is established...I'm going back on some herbs to help clear out the toxin and to stiffen up my immune system too. Will see how that goes with my next blood test in May.
The above Blood Test stands on it's own merits and needs no further proof as far as I'm concerned, simply because I've "NEVER" seen such a Normal reading with any of my blood-test over the past year, as I have with the MMS. And in such a short period of time too.
---It's the REAL DEAL VIRAL KILLER ~ No doubt about it---

Last edited by hobo; 04-05-2010 at 01:37 PM. Reason: Corrected smelling errors.
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