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ALL vitamins in supplement form are synthetic? Even in organic vitamins? I knew that to be true in Centrum and One-A-Day vitamins and what not, but now the Alive! I've been taking and all the other "good", "whole food", and "organic" brands? Really depressing. I've been doing my research and getting it from numerous sources and it turns out most of the isolated forms of B-vitamins are chemicals that come from coal tar while the real B-vitamins come from nutritional yeast and rice bran. Ascorbic acid isn't even vitamin C and actually oxidizes your cells when taken over 500 mg per day. These are only but a couple of things I've learned in my research over the past few days. Very depressing. Essentially, when you take a multivitamin of any kind, even an "organic", "whole food" kind, you are taking the isolated chemical vitamins which only mimic the actual enzyme/cell/real vitamins from food/whatever, as real vitamins are different, real, and include co-factors which are needed. Long-term use of synthetic vitamins damages your DNA and body and "kills you early", along the way it depletes your health rather than helps.
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Hi CSwifty, welcome! You've got me wondering about my vitamins now. I was sure my Carlson Natural Vitamin E was not synthetic, because it was the d-alpha, not the dl-alpha. But, I just read online that acetate=synthetic, and the label reads "d-alpha tocopheryl acetate from soy"
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I can't remember what I read about E, but even the "natural" E came from something not natural/disgusting. Here's one page from my history that explains some things: https://www.ehow.com/how_7837425_tell...synthetic.html
It really has me down, because I've recently really gotten into vitamins and learned all about them over the last year and now find out that even the "organic" and "natural" good vitamins are synthetic and with a few sites I've read, take 5-10% of the time off of a person's lifespan. I guess I'll start looking into herbs or something.
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Edit - Sorry, I posted this when it appeared that my last post didn't make it through.
In my readings, I thought the same thing about vitamin E. But it turns out even the good form of E is from a bad source. Can't remember what, but it was "synthetic" as well. This has me in somewhat of a depression because I was really getting into vitamins over the last year and now I've stopped taking them and looked into other things like chlorella and spirulina

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what about fish oils and other extracts??
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Yes, those are generally fine and not synthetic as long as you buy them from a reputable quality brand.
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what about fish oils and other extracts??

Sorry to say this but fish oil i very doggy these days... stick to hemp oil, much better..tastes better and it is plat based and doesnt come from fukushima cold pressed mutant fishes...
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Sorry to say this but fish oil i very doggy these days... stick to hemp oil, much better..tastes better and it is plat based and doesnt come from fukushima cold pressed mutant fishes...
Hemp oil does wonders. Fish oil does too..

Oh, and on the topic of Fukishima I have some bad news for you... The contamination is not only in the fish, it's all over the globe now. And if it collapses, essentially you can kiss the human race goodbye in about 40 years afterward.

Already radiation levels are rising where the currents flow, and this ISN'T a big problem? They have it UNDER CONTROL? Please....

Complete media blackout is more like it... Thanks a lot Japan! If you just asked for help we would at least be able to prepare!
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.. Thanks a lot Japan! If you just asked for help we would at least be able to prepare!
Ya, us 'mericuns are certainly helpful around the globe.


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Both Germany and Japan wanted to avoid a war with America at almost any cost. Roosevelt was well aware of this pressure on Japan by Germany but he felt that it was necessary to protect the Soviet Union as being the best weapon against the Germans, and therefore, he wanted to prevent Japan from attacking Russia. Roosevelt began extensive provocations to cause Japan to abandon its attack on Russia and instead attack America which also served the purpose of giving Roosevelt the reason to enter the war. Roosevelt launched an eight-point provocation plan primarily through the cutting off of oil supplies to Japan so that by the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor Japan was virtually out of oil and on the verge of industrial and military collapse. The attack on Pearl Harbor and the Philippines also would provide Japan with the ability to attack the Dutch interests in the Pacific, thereby giving them a new supply of oil.
Some argue that the post war nuclear industry in japan, sold by GE, was an attempt to NEVER be the victim of an embargo produced energy shortage. One would think that Japan would be adverse to nuclear AND the US after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

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Ya, us 'mericuns are certainly helpful around the globe.


Some argue that the post war nuclear industry in japan, sold by GE, was an attempt to NEVER be the victim of an embargo produced energy shortage. One would think that Japan would be adverse to nuclear AND the US after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Do read the entire article.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/orig2/denson8.html
Not necessarily to help, but they have a duty to WARN the rest of the planet that it could very well be on the brink of extinction.. That would be the responsible thing to do... At the very least warn, if not ask for help..

Just say "Uh guys, yeah, it's bad, kiss your ass goodbye, we don't have it contained.. Goodnight..." would be sufficient...
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You can get your antioxidants, vitamins and minerals through whole food supplements - for example, I take borojo supplements, which is just the dried superfurit in a capsule - all natural
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As mentioned above Vit E in the d - alpha tocopherol from is natural. Some are natural, but most are synthetic. Except for vit E, as a chemist I am suppose to tell you that there is no difference between nat and synthetic vit C. However, if you get your vitamins from natural sources, you get co factors that improve their potency.
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New Chapter vitamins and supplements are whole food, no synthetics.
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ALL vitamins in supplement form are synthetic? Even in organic vitamins? I knew that to be true in Centrum and One-A-Day vitamins and what not, but now the Alive! I've been taking and all the other "good", "whole food", and "organic" brands? Really depressing. I've been doing my research and getting it from numerous sources and it turns out most of the isolated forms of B-vitamins are chemicals that come from coal tar while the real B-vitamins come from nutritional yeast and rice bran. Ascorbic acid isn't even vitamin C and actually oxidizes your cells when taken over 500 mg per day. These are only but a couple of things I've learned in my research over the past few days. Very depressing. Essentially, when you take a multivitamin of any kind, even an "organic", "whole food" kind, you are taking the isolated chemical vitamins which only mimic the actual enzyme/cell/real vitamins from food/whatever, as real vitamins are different, real, and include co-factors which are needed. Long-term use of synthetic vitamins damages your DNA and body and "kills you early", along the way it depletes your health rather than helps.
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But when u got a flu aand u tale vit-c u feel much better.. i mean even i those vitamins are synchtic and i totaly agree with you abot what u said.. but on the other hand what if you are really under norished and lacking in vitamins and minerals.. and to boost up you immune system u would take vitamins.. for vegeterians vit-b12 is not that easy to find..i also read that the big pharma adding deadly stuff into the vitamin pills to kill us.. the head man for all of those companies is a nazi bloke, in the nazi regime he was in charge of all the concetration camp for killing e great amount of people.. which he got a sentence for that and ended upin prison, but the rothschild freed him..and he is the one who is working for rothschild and this is very scary.. we give to our kinds and take them our selfs.. or have been..
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I really got a kick out of how the MSM immediately said, "This is NOT another Chernobyl!"

HOW THE F@#& COULD THEY KNOW? NOBODY WAS ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR THE REACTOR, AND THEY TYPICALLY DON'T TEACH NUCLEAR PHYSICS IN JOURNALISM STUDIES.

But back on topic. If we expect that kind of courtesy, we should lead by example and extend it.

Things like, "Hey Japan, if you are getting petroleum from Libya, you might want to find another source temporarily, cuz we're gonna bomb the shite out of them shortly."
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