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Black walnut hulls are very antiparasitic and will remove liver flukes. They also contain a nice quantity of iodine.

I've already said that DHEA will cause you to lose hair, but you don't really care about that. It is a chemical cousin to testosterone. It increases testosterone, estrogen, and a few other hormones in both men an women. The adrenal glands produce large quantities of DHEA in younger people, but not so much as we age. You are about to tell your adrenal gland to not bother with it. I suppose all it will do for you is make your skin greasy and give you acne.
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Black walnut hulls are very antiparasitic and will remove liver flukes. They also contain a nice quantity of iodine.

I've already said that DHEA will cause you to lose hair, but you don't really care about that. It is a chemical cousin to testosterone. It increases testosterone, estrogen, and a few other hormones in both men an women. The adrenal glands produce large quantities of DHEA in younger people, but not so much as we age. You are about to tell your adrenal gland to not bother with it. I suppose all it will do for you is make your skin greasy and give you acne.
I have taken DHEA before, but low doses (5-10 mg). They have 200mg doses, but I feel even 25 is too much. How would I know if I had liver flukes?
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Parasites can be tricky because they release eggs when they die and the cycle begins over with new babies. You've got to kill the eggs too. I think you'll get a more complete parasite/liver fluke cleanse if you use three herbs together: black walnut, clove and wormwood. Each herb kills different stages of life forms including the newly released eggs. Read more here: https://curezone.com/diseases/parasites/clarkia.asp

DHEA supplements increased the life of mice in a study by 50%. It will increase your testosterone though and other hormones as Jfh said. Have you done a hormone test?

I have low DHEA but was advised not to take DHEA because my testosterone was too high.
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. You are about to tell your adrenal gland to not bother with it. I suppose all it will do for you is make your skin greasy and give you acne.
Well Ive been taking DHEA for about 4 years now.. I still have all my hair and my skin is picture perfect. If your over 45 its not an unreasonable thing to take, just remember with hormones low dosages are generally better than high ones. I would start at 5mg twice a day.

and yes, sublingual is better.
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I do not think my testosterone has been high ever. I hate sports and loud people and crowds.

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If you see what looks like undigested tomato skins in your feces, it could be liver flukes or it could be undigested tomato skins.
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If you see what looks like undigested tomato skins in your feces, it could be liver flukes or it could be undigested tomato skins.

Good to know. I will go tomato free the day before and of the first time I take the black walnut tincture.
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I do not think my testosterone has been high ever. I hate sports and loud people and crowds.

One thing I haver noticed with supplements I have discovered the past 2 yrs. Serrapeptase kicks ass.
I too would NEVER think my testosterone levels were high but my recent hormonal test revealed it was high. If I had started taking DHEA it would have increased my already high testosterone. I probably would have started growing a beard and used my skin to oil my cooking pans.
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I too would NEVER think my testosterone levels were high but my recent hormonal test revealed it was high. If I had started taking DHEA it would have increased my already high testosterone. I probably would have started growing a beard and used my skin to oil my cooking pans.
I don't think that is necessarily the case. The body is normally very good at rejecting stuff it doesn't need any more of. That's why as your vitamin d levels approach optimum you skin makes less and your digestive system absorbs less. I'm not saying you can't have too much of a good thing but dhea has many benefits and it's a shame to miss out.
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)--a precursor steroid or an active hormone in human physiology
DHEA modulates endothelial function, reduces inflammation, improves insulin sensitivity, blood flow, cellular immunity, body composition, bone metabolism, sexual function, and physical strength in frailty and provides neuroprotection, improves cognitive function, and memory enhancement. DHEA possesses pleiotropic effects and reduced levels of DHEA and DHEA-S may be associated with a host of pathologies; however, the clinical efficacy of DHEA supplementation in ameliorating patho-physiological symptoms remains to be evaluated.
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DHEA sounds amazing. Eventually I will want to increase my levels.
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I don't think that is necessarily the case. The body is normally very good at rejecting stuff it doesn't need any more of. That's why as your vitamin d levels approach optimum you skin makes less and your digestive system absorbs less. I'm not saying you can't have too much of a good thing but dhea has many benefits and it's a shame to miss out.
Dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA)--a precursor steroid or an active hormone in human physiology
DHEA modulates endothelial function, reduces inflammation, improves insulin sensitivity, blood flow, cellular immunity, body composition, bone metabolism, sexual function, and physical strength in frailty and provides neuroprotection, improves cognitive function, and memory enhancement. DHEA possesses pleiotropic effects and reduced levels of DHEA and DHEA-S may be associated with a host of pathologies; however, the clinical efficacy of DHEA supplementation in ameliorating patho-physiological symptoms remains to be evaluated.
Ted, speaking of vitamin D, can you take to much? I live in Florida, get out in the sun for an hour or more a few times a week, keep a fair tan and I have been taking about 5,000 iu of vitamin D daily for a few months...does this sound ok?
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Ted, speaking of vitamin D, can you take to much? I live in Florida, get out in the sun for an hour or more a few times a week, keep a fair tan and I have been taking about 5,000 iu of vitamin D daily for a few months...does this sound ok?
The only way to be sure is to take a 25(OH)D test from time to time.
What you are doing sounds fine to me It's possible in the summer when you spend more time outdoors you may reduce the daily use of 5000iu to alternate days or only use it when you have not been able to expose much skin to sunshine.
The amount of vitamin D your skin makes is determined by the amount of 7-dehydrocholesterol in your skin and that declines as you age so if you are 75 your skin will only make about 25% of what it would have done when you were 25. Similarly you may have been fooled into taking statins or cholesterol reducing diets/spreads etc. 7-dehydrocholesterol is obviously in the cholesterol family and if you use statins or engage in cholesterol lowering you obviously affect the whole cholesterol synthesis pathway and will inevitably be prematurely ageing your skin and reducing your ability to generate vitamin d3 naturally.
As well as not knowing your age I don't know your weight and weight comes into the equation, not only for supplement effectiveness (1000iu per 25lbs is generally considered a good starting point) but also for the impact of sun exposure. We know that being overweight/obese has an impact on cortisol levels, cortisol is a corticosteroid and we know corticosteriod use depletes vitamin D3. So one of the reasons for the vitamin d deficiency epidemic is the obesity crisis and vice versa as the two factors affect each other.
So it's a good idea to have a postal or discount 25(OH)D test if you possibly can but what you are doing sounds fine providing you don't ever get sunburnt.

It's also a good idea to try to allow as long as possible between being in the sun and showering. There is a bit of a problem with sunning, outdoor swimming pool use/sunbathing/showering alternately through the day, so some people end up with a lot less vitamin D than they think.

The same applies to marathon runners, cyclists, anyone doing energetic outdoor workouts, sweating in the sunshine, bringing vitamin d to skin surface, then towelling it off or getting it exposed to vitamin d depleting UVA.
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The only way to be sure is to take a 25(OH)D test from time to time.
What you are doing sounds fine to me It's possible in the summer when you spend more time outdoors you may reduce the daily use of 5000iu to alternate days or only use it when you have not been able to expose much skin to sunshine.
The amount of vitamin D your skin makes is determined by the amount of 7-dehydrocholesterol in your skin and that declines as you age so if you are 75 your skin will only make about 25% of what it would have done when you were 25. Similarly you may have been fooled into taking statins or cholesterol reducing diets/spreads etc. 7-dehydrocholesterol is obviously in the cholesterol family and if you use statins or engage in cholesterol lowering you obviously affect the whole cholesterol synthesis pathway and will inevitably be prematurely ageing your skin and reducing your ability to generate vitamin d3 naturally.
As well as not knowing your age I don't know your weight and weight comes into the equation, not only for supplement effectiveness (1000iu per 25lbs is generally considered a good starting point) but also for the impact of sun exposure. We know that being overweight/obese has an impact on cortisol levels, cortisol is a corticosteroid and we know corticosteriod use depletes vitamin D3. So one of the reasons for the vitamin d deficiency epidemic is the obesity crisis and vice versa as the two factors affect each other.
So it's a good idea to have a postal or discount 25(OH)D test if you possibly can but what you are doing sounds fine providing you don't ever get sunburnt.

It's also a good idea to try to allow as long as possible between being in the sun and showering. There is a bit of a problem with sunning, outdoor swimming pool use/sunbathing/showering alternately through the day, so some people end up with a lot less vitamin D than they think.

The same applies to marathon runners, cyclists, anyone doing energetic outdoor workouts, sweating in the sunshine, bringing vitamin d to skin surface, then towelling it off or getting it exposed to vitamin d depleting UVA.
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I don't take prescription drugs, I use real butter, weigh 180, 5'9", 52 years Old...not young (boy I was better when I was Young) I take D3 almost every day and when I started taking D3 I got some of the 50,000 iu capsules and took one of those one to two days out of the week but have been at the level of 5,000 to 10,000 since...I don't like going to doctors and really don't have any around where I live I trust so I am not likely to get the level checked, just trying to figure out a descent amount and not over due it.
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I don't like going to doctors and really don't have any around where I live I trust so I am not likely to get the level checked,
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