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\nI\'d add vitamin D to the list - either high-dosages of supplemental D or prolonged sun-exposure.
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\nAs far as the vitamin C is concerned, I usually take as much as my body can handle (without GI symptoms). The key, in my opinion, is to take smaller amounts very frequently - hourly even (during an illness).
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\nExtra probiotics and fewer refined carbs (as they can suppress your immune system).
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\nI try to get lots of sleep.
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\nAnd, I drink strong green/white tea and/or ginger tea - sweetened with stevia, as it may help to fight certain viruses.
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\nThis is in addition to all the other supplements I take daily.
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\nPS - I like staying up-to-date on what the newest-and-hottest supplements are. Cold & Flu-wise, the newest stud is called Blockade. It\'s supposed to be a special (of course) elderberry extract.
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\nhttps://www.iherb.com/ProductDetails....145673550&at=0\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I get a cold about every four years-' + '-had one in 1999, another that lasted a day and a half on New Years Day 2003, and a 5 day cold in March of 2007. My husband has not had a cold in the past three years. I believe it\'s just what we do on a daily basis that makes the difference.
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\r\nMari\r\n

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\r\n \r\n ok, Iggy.. I\'m waiting for your personal cold/flu killer formulas..\r\n

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\n Sounds like good advice. Would love to go outside and soak up some rays.
\n Now if it would just stop snowing! 3-4in since this morning and more on the way. (3-21-08)\r\n

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\r\n \r\n where are you that it is snowing?
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\nIt is cold where I am.. kind of disappointed - they said the weather would be great and I was looking forward to taking a long walk outside. but.. at least it was sunny.
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\n(OT) - why the small font? makes me squint..
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\nI want to make sure i can read your posts, Mad Scientist!!! especially with a name like "Mad Scientist" ! \r\n

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\r\n \r\n Yes going to have to add that to my "things to save list".
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\nI�m in a suburb of Chicago just west of O�Hare airport where I can watch the jets making chemtrails. It was a virtual blizzard, although today it is about half melted.
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\n I write all my posts using a word processor. With my spelling ability this is imperative. What it is unable to correct on the fly I�m then able to go back a correct.
\n The fonts that I am using are actually quite large over there, but when I cut & paste they magically shrink.
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\n So let me try a new font. How about this?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n chicago... ok. my brother-in-law lives around there.. so, I know what you mean.
\nsounds like a good plan. I am a pretty good speller, but queen of typos. I use a firefox extension for spelling.. but it isn\'t as nice as a word editor. so, I understand the need to be able to correct. and it is probably better to do it somewhere else. I have a tendency to be in a hurry, hit the post button, then read it 5 minutes later, and think, "holy toledo.. how did I miss that? . but I\'m better than I used to be.
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\ntoo much
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\nMUCH BETTER!!!! Thank you! now I can read your posts easily!!!
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\nbtw, if you click the A/A button in the upper right hand corner, it will show you the "source". being a "mad scientist", I bet you can see what VB is doing, and how VB is doing it. You can change the source.. not that you want to do this, but it is nice to know. but this might give you a clue as to what is happening between your word processor and VB.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I am curious to know how much oil of oregano you would use...According to my own experience and research, I have found that filling a "00" capsule with 35 or 36 drops will clean all viruses/flu bugs in the blood. If you take one capsule in the morning and another at night, you should be fine the next day!
\r\nCAUTION: Drink a glass of water or juice with the capsule, for it is potent.
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\r\nAs far as preventing cold/flu, it is best to keep your immune system in good condition. This can be done by supplementing with Echinacea, Ginkgo, and other immune system boosters.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n My wife and myself have both used our GB-4000 Rife machine using the cold frequencies.
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\r\nSince the virus is almost always different from one time to the next we run it in the channel sweep mode. This makes it more likely to hit the proper frequency to disable the given virus as it is changing all the time.
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\r\nIt seems to work. Our colds only last about four days, while everyone in our office is ill at least twice as long with colds.
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\r\n \r\n D Bergy, when you do a sweep, how do you know that you aren\'t disrupting normal cells? This is what I\'ve never understood.
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\nare the ranges that disparate between bacteria, viruses, and normal cells?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Knock on wood, I\'m batting 1,000 on colds and flu. I call out the Marines, Air Force, and heavy Naval bombardment.
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\nAt 1st sign of a sniffle, I sniff colloidal silver (10ppm freshened with 1 drop of 35% food grade H2O2 to 1 oz CS). That usually works in minutes. If additional symptoms ensue, I take 200,000 IU of Vit D3, beta 1,3/1,6 glucans, Culturelle probiotic, Stonyfield Farm yogurt, and sip red onion skin tea. If I do all that the 1st night, I\'m always fully recovered by morning.
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\nMy brilliant geek friend(but nutritionally stupid), David, called me about 10 days ago, complaining about being nauseous and achy all over. I rushed over and gave him everything but the CS(too late for sniffing CS). He called me the next morning and was completely well.
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\nAbout 8 years ago, when I was working in a retirement home and was away from my own pantry and supplements, I came down with a bad cold. I beat it by a keeping a raw garlic clove in my mouth all day, giving it a light chew every few minutes. That knocked out the worst symptoms in about 24 hours. My breath probably rid the entire retirement home of the cold virus.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n so, Iggy... how do you "sniff" it? how many drops of silver to 1 drop of H2o2?
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\nand what do you, put it in your palm and sniff it? (trying to picture Iggy sniffing silver )
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\nwhat does the red onion skin tea do?
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\nbtw, I now save the red onion skins for my bone broth (I freeze the skins)
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\nso.. what did he say? is he now under your nutritional wing?
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\ndoes he think you are a witch doctor?
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\n(what you should do next time is tell him to take the pills, while you dance around him and chant... JUST KIDDING!!!)
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\nwell, then, Iggy.. I think you are ready to try the plague brew. Your mission.. to mix this up next time you feel like you are coming down with something, drink it down, and report back to us. ok?
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\nDr. Schulze\'s Plague Tonic
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\nYUM!!!
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\n(since the modern plague is MRSA.. wonder if anyone has tried this?)
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\n the ingredients in the Plague Tonic (also known as the Super Cure All tonic):

• Cayenne: drive the blood thru your body and break up those blockages.
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• Gingerroot: boost circulation. will get blood all around the body.
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• Garlic: destroys any germ, any virus, any bacteria, any fungus, any antigen, any pathogen, and it strengthens your body.
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• Onion: same family as garlic.. goes to the head.. get hottest
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• Horseradish (root); goes right to the head
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fill up with apple cider vinegar 2/3 of the way. Blend. You can drink it as is... or strain it and drink the liquid.
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\n Dr.Schulze wrote: You couldn\'t buy an herbal tonic this powerful with all the money in the world
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\nso... there you have it, Iggy. Don\'t try this before a hot date, though... \r\n

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\r\n \r\n scorpio, please check that "plague tonic" link. It seems broken. Gets to YouTube general.
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\nI did not realize the gingerroot relationship. Thanks.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n sorry.. here is a link to another video (actually easier to watch) and it looks like the same thing:
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\nhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=7wQbGDmaKZc\r\n

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\r\n \r\n One drop of H2O2 to one ounce of CS. Use this 1 oz nasal sniffer bottle.
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\nIt\'s tasty and seems to be anti-microbial. I learned about it at HSI. Supposedly it\'s an eastern-European remedy.
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\nHe said, "Thank you Dr Iggy." and I replied, "You\'re welcome Dr Geek."
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\nNo, he\'s a fast learner, but he does listen to my advice.
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\nI may try that. I would like to swap some of my CS for some ready-made Plague Tonic.
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\nSpeaking of Plague Tonic,
\nI bought some "Thieves Spray" for that purpose. \r\n

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\r\n \r\n well, I don\'t fill my own capsules. but this is what I took. I took 2 the first time, and one in the morning and one at night, until I threw up. then, I got kind of turned off about it. but.. i still felt it was helping my cough before my stomach started rebelling.
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\nthis is what I took:
\nGAIA Oil of Oregano Phyto-Caps
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\nactually, I don\'t get many colds, and maybe that\'s why I was kind of unprepared for getting this one.. but this last one was a doozy. My gym buddy teaches pre-school.. she is exposed to all the colds/viruses that come along. and I think sometimes she just can\'t help but pass them on.
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\nbut.. I don\'t really know who passed it to who. I just know a lot of people got something similar in my area, and actually, as bad as I felt, I did better than some.
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\nbut, NEXT TIME: I will be looking up this thread, and getting into action a lot earlier!!! \r\n

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\r\n \r\n I put this together a couple of years ago with the bird flu scare. Got some ideas here I may add. The onion skin thing is interesting. Have any links or further info on that, Iggy?
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\nWhen the flu comes:
\nI recommend that you prepare well in advance for if you wait till the last minute these products will be gone. Many people know about these alternative treatments and the stores will be rushed upon.
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\n
\nVitamin c
\n1 to 2000 mg every hour until diarrhea occurs then back off some
\nThis is called reaching bowel tolerance. When the body has all the vit c it can use diarrhea occurs. After diarrhea happens wait a few hours and start again.
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\nGrapefruit seed extract.
\npurchased at any healthfood store
\nGargle with it. 4 gtts in about 4 ounces of water 3 to 4 times a day
\nDrink it. 1 drop per 10lbs body weight. 4xday
\nYou may also purchase this in pills. Take at least 3 pills 4x day if situation is critical. One pill a day if common flu
\nWith pills increase or decrease dosage according to size of person.
\nGSE is nontoxic in even the largest dosages
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\nolive leaf extract
\nstandardized to at least 15 percent but use any you can fined if you can\'t find this.
\nAverage adults 3 caps 3 x day
\nIncrease or decrease dosage according to size of person.
\nThis is a nontoxic product
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\nBeta Glucon from NOW products
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\nhttps://www.iherb.com/betaglucans.html
\nStart taking this as soon as you hear about the first case or better yet start in October and keep at it till flu season is past.
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\nColloidal silver
\npurchase at healthfood store
\n1 ounce every hour if condition is severe
\notherwise 1 ounce 3 x day
\ngargle with it and hold it in your mouth up to one minute before drinking it
\nThis is a nontoxic product
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\nHydrogen peroxide
\nPurchase at any drug store or supermarket
\nseveral drops in the ear 3 x day
\ndo one ear then the other
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\nHerbal Formula
\nWill probably treat 5 or 6 people. I purchased 1/4 ounce each of these, except the mushroom blend where I purchased 1/2 lb. Purchase chopped herb, not powdered. Mix all ingredients and soak in glass jar covered with vodka for 6 weeks. Strain. put into dropper bottles. Start using as soon as flu hits the state, I mean the very first minute. Carry it with you. Will build immunity and attack virus, anti inflammatory properities.
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\nhttps://www.herbaladvantage.com/
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\nProduct Name Product # Price X Qty = Total
\nAstragalus Root Powder 11-035P1 $4.50 1 $4.50
\nEchinacea Ang. Root Pwd 11-187P1 $21.95 1 $21.95
\nGinger Ground 11-260P1 $3.42 1 $3.42
\nLicorice Root Powder 11-395P1 $4.56 1 $4.56
\nMushroom Blend of 4 Powder 11-6105X2 $31.56 1 $31.56
\nOlive Leaf - Powder 11-4905P1 $3.86 1 $3.86
\nCat\'s Claw Bark Powder 11-100P1 $4.89 1 $4.89
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\nTotal about $74 dollars with about $5 for shipping.
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\nPhenocaine
\nhttps://www.donsbach.com/arthritis.htm
\nmay help with pain and inflammation associated with flu
\n1 or 2 caps 2 to 3 times a day
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\nOzone Protocol
\nIf you have ozone equipement follow the ozone protocol.
\nbut vitamin c will inactivate ozone so do not use together.
\nAt the end of the day after all ozone treatments give Vit c 10gms.
\nSeparate ozone treatments by several hours from vitamin or other drug therapies.
\nIt is unknown if ozone affects drugs.
\nStop all unnecessary drugs you may be taking while combating the flu. You will have to determine the risk of stopping drugs for a few days.
\nIt you decide to take a drug just for the flu I can not say the effects that ozone may have on it.
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\nIn Germany they give ozone intrmuscular injections to fight flu.
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\nDisinfecting your environment
\nGrapeseed extract, 50 drops to a quart spray bottle.
\nspray all surfaces a contaminated person is in contact with
\nkeep a bottle each bathroom, kitchen and near front door
\nafter washing your hands spray your hands or put about 10 drops of GSE in your liquid hand soap or dish soap
\nAdd 10 drops to your dishwasher
\n50 drops to your laundry
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\nI recommed that you purchase ozonators. They are about $40 each from this site. https://www.ozone.enaly.com/EOZ-300Y.htm
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\nyou will need 1 medical grade and 2 room air ozonators.
\nUse one ozonator for the room of an infected person
\nUse the other ozonator near the entry door and use it to make ozonated water also.
\nThe medical grade is for respiratory treatments and insuffalation.
\nSee the next page for more details.
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\r\n \r\n Barbara, thanks for putting all this together!! Wow!! a lot of information.. and things to try!
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\nbut.. why the hydrogen peroxide in the ear? how does that help fight the cold/flu?\r\n

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\r\n \r\n When we caught this virus thats going around down here... I tried all the tricks.. it seemed like we had gotten rid of the virus, but the fatigue and the aches just hung on for weeks... I am beginning to think I am still fighting the stuff... woke up this morning with another sore throat. I asked our naturopath about how to finish knocking it out, and he said that our normal arsenal wont work... He believes that the virus is man-made, and said the only thing that will kill this virus is ozonated eucalyptus oil (maybe it was extract??) So, I did some hunting, and from what I am reading, its some pretty powerful stuff... Sounds like this needs to be put on everyones list... I just looked up the info about the eycalyptus.. didnt look for ozonated... But I am assuming, that putting it thru an ozonator would make it stronger.. (right arrow??)
\nThe two things on my list to buy this year, (before they make \'em illegal) is the silvergen, and an ozone machine.... I think they will be lifesavers in years to come!
\nI have also started buying latex gloves and the face masks.. I also found a company down in houston that will do in home IV treatments... asked the man if they would be allowed to do vitaminC IV protocol if I had a script, and he said he didnt see why not... that might be something to look for in your area...The name of the company down here is apria healthcare.. www.Apria.com
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\r\n \r\n Dr. Eade\'s advice:
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\r\n \r\n I\'ve never heard of this! I will have to look for it next time I go to Fresh Fields..
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\r\n \r\n https://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v04n04.shtml\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Eeek - it\'s probably much more concentrated than the spray, Scorpio - treat it with care!\r\n

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\r\n \r\n I put one drop in my palm, put my toothbrush in it, and move the toothbrush around my gum area. then I usually end up rinsing.. (it is strong). but I can feel it afterwards.
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\nso.. I shouldn\'t be doing this?
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\r\n \r\n It\'s fine if you can tolerate it! I wondered if you were going to have a surprising experience, as I did once, using the oil. You don\'t seem to be suffering from shock, so it must be the right stuff!\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Hi, here\'s my regimen for avoiding the cold/flu. It\'s very successful, but not for the faith of heart!
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\r\nFor general immunity in the winter I regularly use astragalus, pao d\'arco, garlic, ginger, hyssop (this one more for lungs than immunity)
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\r\nAny time I feel my immune system compromised I do the following immediately:
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\r\n* Drink lots of water
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\r\n* Take a zinc supplement (for immune boost) combined with vitamin C (also good for immunity and makes zinc more bio-available.) I like using camu-camu powder for my vitamin C.
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\r\n* Use goldenseal tincture in glycerin. This tastes disgusting but works like a charm. I use just a few drops of it undiluted and let it drip down the back of my throat, do this every few hours.
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\r\n* Use echinacea tincture, just a few drops directly on my tongue.
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\r\nI usually stop here, rarely does it progress, but if so I do some/all of the following:
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\r\n*Make concentrated ginger tea (simmer root for 20 minutes), add the juice of a lemon, and if your throat is dry a little honey.
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\r\n*For infections localized in throat I gargle every 15 minutes with mixture of water, salt, goldenseal, and any strong essential oils I have on hand. Tea tree, lemon, clove, and hyssop all work well. Add a little honey to the mixture so the oils mix thoroughly. Warning: this tastes really nasty
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\r\n*For infections localized in the nose/throat I inhale steam with essential oils. Boil water, turn off the heat, add essential oils, then inhale the steam with a towel over your head. Eucalyptus and hyssop are my favorites. Start with a few drops, then add more when they dissipate.
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\r\n*For achy/weak body I take a scalding hot bath for as long as I can stand. I usually get worse, feel like I\'m about to pass out, take a nap, then when I wake up a few hours later I\'m better.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Vitamin D status has a linear association with seasonal infections and lung function in British adults.
\r\nEach 10 nmol/l increase in 25(OH)D was associated with a 7 % lower risk of infection
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\r\nTherefore if you raise 25(OH)D from the typical 25nmol/l to 125nmol/l the average level human DNA reaches vitamin D equilibrium given regular full body sun exposure you raise it 100nmol/l and reduce colds/flu infection about 70%.
\r\nIn practice I don\'t get colds/flu any more since I\'ve kept my 25(OH)D levels at 50ng/ml 125nmol/l.
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\r\nIf I did think a cold was about to develop I\'d use stoss therapy.
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\r\nsee Vitamin D Council > News Archive > 2006 > Vitamin D, Atherosclerosis, and Influenza
\r\nVitamin D, Atherosclerosis, and Influenza
\r\nYou can buy 50,000iu capsules from a firm called BIOTECH Pharmaceuticals.
\r\nhttps://www.biotechpharmacal.com/catalog/d3-50-50000-iu/
\r\nThe 20% discount code, which will run through the month of December, is �VDC�.
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\r\n \r\n What happened was that I had a very painful learning Experience on the correct use of essential oils!
\nSome years ago I was the proud owner of my very first bottle of Four Thieves oil. Then I had an ear infection, so I reasoned, quite brilliantly I thought, that putting some of that oil in my ear would be a good antibacterial thing to do.
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\nWell, I haven\'t forgotten the pain yet, and hope I never forget it.
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\nAfter that, I learned that one should NOT put undiluted essential oils, of any kind, on to any mucous membrane, or into eyes, ears, nose, etc. Properly diluted, with the right oils, it is OK, but I had a lot fo learning to do back then! So when you mentioned "drops" my mind went back to that pain!!
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\nIf there is an accidental spillage of essential oil in eyes, ears, etc, use another oil to wash it out. Olive oil, almond oil, whatever is handy. Water doesn\'t mix with oil so it is not efficient at removing it.
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\nSorry if I alarmed you, scorpiotiger. It was my own remembered alarm that was talking in that post!\r\n

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\r\n \r\n a suggestion for Kevin...
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\nsince winter is around the corner, I think this would be a good thread to sticky.
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\njust my opinion.. \r\n

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\r\n \r\n The last 3 colds I started to feel coming on......runny itchy eyes, tingling in the nostrils, sneezes.......the SECOND I felt it start I began a regimen every 3 hours of 2000 mg. vitamin C and 3 capsules of the echenachia/goldenseal combo. I took that for 24 hours, then backed off and took 1/2 that for the next couple of days every 4 hours. I never came down with the colds at all.\r\n

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\nMy analogy as learned from experience is as follows; If you have a floor you wish to keep clean, you put a good sealer on it (vit D), then you can simply damp mop (vit C) to remove the soil (viruses).
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\nUntil I had my vitamin D level up, it didn\'t seem that vitamin C was all that effective when I became ill. Once vitamin D levels were up, vitamin C taken when symptoms started removed the symptoms within half a day.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n Some suggestions for dealing with the common cold...https://www.natmedtalk.com/wiki/Common_Cold
\nAnd flu...https://www.natmedtalk.com/wiki/Influenza\r\n

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\r\n "We can judge the heart of a man by his treatment of animals." ~Immanual Kant~
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\r\n \r\n For the Flu: I find an auxilliary heater in the bedroom to make it quit warm and drinking lots of water and green tea helps.\r\n

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\r\n \r\n For cold or flu - plenty of vitamin C and zinc, echinacea, grapefruit seed extract and sambucol.
\nAnd as food, onions and garlic.\r\n

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\r\n....It is our deeds, the accumulated acts of goodness and kindness, that define us and ultimately are the true measure of our worth. Service is the coin of the spirit.
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